Time fer movin on..

[Mac_Muz]

Hi, it has been a time since I was here last. I was all full of French and Indian War gun boat ideas then. Following this link http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mac_muz15/my_photos

Seeking "My Photos" several pics that still float my stick/boat will be apparent. I made that boat bright eh? Well lack of use and some weatha' have caused her to dull down as the finish was "work boat" and done in oils.

It is time to refinish her again inside, and doctor up all so she is fit once more for a future home. I plan to do the work before she is for sale, so this isn't exactly an add. However if there is a historical re-enactor seeking such a project and wants oil over varnished bright sing out...

My problem is some cracks from drying out have taken place in the planking. The boat has been under cover all winter, and I expected these. What I don't know how to do is convince a buyer these cracks swell shut, and I don't know how to make her bright and fill the cracks too. Filling the cracks will make them too tight. Life Caulk seems to pink in so called mahogany color.

Following that link shows her bright as finished about 2 years ago. I plan to be moving about May 31st or so from NH USA to NM, or Az, and don't have any wish to take this boat. Life changes and I follow the flow..

So how do I deal with cracks which have already closed in the rains we have currently. Temps are well below 60, and the boat is open to the rain on purpose and being cleaned, with the idea the cracks will be nearly closed from swelling before I add anything into them. My yard just had ice out with help from a shovel, and I still have about a foot of snow as it is. Lake Winnie is still hard iced over.

I will be around, but you could PM and or e-mail me.. I have no wish to be breaking rules, but fixing and selling this boat is the event.. Mac

Edited to: Feel free to poke about in my albums, but I have created a "Dory" album and will dig around to find in the water pics as I can to scan and add..

[ 04-04-2005, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Mac_Muz ]

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Hey Mac, good to see you again. smile.gif
Where ya been? :D

[Mac_Muz]

Out killin the Yunqueez, keepin you folks safe for whole nuther year!!!

Howabout some help eh? What me fix liddle cedar plank cracks with? The kinds of liddle cracks that swell shut, but makes modern peoples quivver when they see air on both side when de boat be oudda de water all winder?

You modern guys like de woods bright eh? No work boat finish eh? I used Ducky oil from Belfast dorry shoppe, and so now what goes best. Modern ladies no like ducky oil! Smells like tar!

I make de new Dorry folder in Yahoo, and still hunting for boat in wadder pictures my wife Gwyn Marie takes.... She say No tell boat name, but I say why?

Boat de "Valeur de Sueur" and de best gun boat on Lac du St. Sacrement :D

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

You're right Mac, she's a good lookin boat. ;)

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/419efe2bzdc8e5937/7dde/__sr_/4409.jpg?phAJwUCB6CvVONfl

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/419efe2bzdc8e5937/7dde/__sr_/4803.jpg?phnSwUCBiG0d7a.O

Been lots of seam sealing discussions lately, Joe (Cold Spring On Hudson) has a good one with his boat "Dove". Good advise from some of the best. I'll see if I can find the link.

[ 04-05-2005, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Know It All ]

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Ah yes, here it is......

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultim atebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=011244 (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=011244)

.....hope this helps.

I'll see what else I can find. :D

Wait a minute, is that a lapstrake boat?
maybe you should read this instead..... :D

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultim atebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004087 (http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004087)

This is the 18th century whale boat HENRY SCUDDER mentioned in that post.....

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid17/p7f4414207da2625cfaca51711bff3dbb/fdf5b346.jpg

[ 04-05-2005, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Know It All ]

[Mac_Muz]

Thanks, Dis page uses the term "Dutchmen"
http://www.morebutter.com/patience/imagepage.html

In this text.."This is another shot of what some of these cracks looked like." "I wasn't too worried that they wouldn't seal back up." "I'm glad that I held off fixing them for this season." "Over the winter I will route out many of them and install Dutchmen."
http://www.morebutter.com/folkboatimages/patience/thumbnails/stillsomeprettybigcracks.jpghttp://www.morebutte r.com/folkboatimages/patience/thumbnails/stillsomeprettybigcracks.jpg[/IMG]

The picture before has this text... "The boat was really really really dry." "You can see the size of the cracks that had opened up in the planking." "This is after I have been running sprinklers in her for a couple of weeks." "All of these cracks closed up completely and are now totally water tight."

http://www.morebutter.com/folkboatimages/patience/thumbnails/cracksinplanks.jpg

Gwyn Marie help me put dis pictures in I steal.

Reading about HENRY SCUDDER I understand squeezing out sealer because the sealer is in cracks, and not seams. I have only 3 cracks like shown, 2 below water line and 1 higher.

The wood swells shut in a 24 hour rain, or a 3 hour swim. Modern people don't understand this idea and want to put things into the cracks when the wood is dry. When the wood becomes wet it will swell shut and squeeze what ever you put in out. What ever sealer, if it is hard, or can swell will cause a real problem and break wood.

A soft plyable sealer will squish right out and or lump up.

My way has been to wet the crack and add Life Caulk when the seam is nearly closed. This might tear off the sealer when the boat dries. It is better to tear the sealer off, than to break the boat.

5200 is said to not care for oil finished boats, and does dry fairly hard at least from what I can tell digging it out of real seams on older mahogany runabouts as I once did a few years ago when I found this site.

Getting back to my most recent question... What is the "Dutchmen" I have the idea the term means a long sliver of cedar installed into a plank, but I am not sure and I don't have time either.

If my boat was in water all season this would not be a problem.. Boats re-enactors use have such problems, and life whizzes on by with nary a thought to the old ways.

If you stop and think for 2 seconds.. It is Fire and the ablity to controll fire that is where ALL this so called Hi tech comes from... And most Hi Techies can't start a barbie with out a gallon of fuel and some gas match..... Opps ranting again..

[ 04-06-2005, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: Mac_Muz ]

[yorgie]

Such a coincidence!The page and folkboat you pulled up belongs to a forum member.Wonder where Noah's been at lately?

[Mac_Muz]

Well, I am still hoping for an answer or two...

Weather is a smidgen cold yet, and while cleaning and swelling are taking place, sand ing is being put off so wood won't oxidize and need to be brightend again before oil/varnish/poly or what ever goes on.

The idea is to either allow the boat to be as is so a owner can do it his way, or for me to do it the way I think "his way" might be which probably isn't a oil work boat finish. Back in 1750 no poly was around.., and Varnish wasn't wasted on small working craft..

And it is cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

[ 04-12-2005, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: Mac_Muz ]