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  • James McMullen
    老板
    • Apr 2007
    • 12054

    Bombing Syria then and now

    “What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict?”
    —Donald Trump, August 30, 2013

    ”If Obama attacks Syria and innocent civilians are hurt and killed, he and the U.S. will look very bad!”

    ”The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!”
    —Donald Trump, August 31, 2013

    ”AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!”
    —Donald Trump, September 5, 2013
    But obviously, things are different now. Way back in 2013, there was no need to try to divert attention away from Mr. Trump’s shady lawyer getting raided by the FBI, James Comey releasing his book, or the Speaker of the House jumping ship and leaving Congress along with another 40+ of his Republican colleagues.
  • James McMullen
    老板
    • Apr 2007
    • 12054

    #2
    Re: Bombing Syria then and now

    Good thing at least that there’s a calm and steady hand on the tiller of the US Ship of State here in these troubling times.

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    • birlinn
      Isle of Mull, Scotland
      • Jul 2011
      • 10883

      #3
      Re: Bombing Syria then and now

      Originally posted by James McMullen
      Good thing at least that there’s a calm and steady hand on the tiller of the US Ship of State here in these troubling times.
      A Stable Genius, no less.

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      • bobbys
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 30711

        #4
        Re: Bombing Syria then and now

        Our libs stated obama was a genius for changing with new information.

        What hypocrites.

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        • Norman Bernstein
          Liberaltarian
          • Nov 2004
          • 25217

          #5
          Re: Bombing Syria then and now

          What a pointless exercise.... No doubt, Syria moved their most important assets in advance of the strike... and facilities will be re-built.

          Without a strategy, there is NO point to a military strike.....

          What is the US strategy for Syria? Does anyone know?
          "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






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          • LeeG
            Senior Member
            • May 2002
            • 72803

            #6
            Re: Bombing Syria then and now

            Originally posted by bobbys
            Our libs stated obama was a genius for changing with new information.

            What hypocrites.
            what you are saying makes absolutely no sense.

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            • Durnik
              Out 'n About
              • Feb 2011
              • 11547

              #7
              Re: Bombing Syria then and now

              ^ continuity is a strong point!


              sorta..

              maybe..

              well..

              0-:

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              • Ian McColgin
                Senior Member
                • Apr 1999
                • 51646

                #8
                Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                [IMc - Since Russian agent orange45 tweeted the plan to Putin, of course they moved.]

                APRIL 13, 2018 / 11:41 PM / UPDATED 16 HOURS AGO
                Pro-Assad official says targeted bases were evacuated on Russian warning
                Reuters Staff

                BEIRUT (Reuters) - The Syrian government and its allies have absorbed a U.S.-led attack on Saturday and the targeted sites were evacuated days ago thanks to a warning from Russia, a senior official in a regional alliance that backs Damascus said.

                “We have absorbed the strike”, the official told Reuters.

                “We had an early warning of the strike from the Russians ... and all military bases were evacuated a few days ago,” the official said. Around 30 missiles were fired in the attack, and a third of them were shot down, the official said.

                “We are carrying out an assessment of the material damages,” the official added.

                Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been backed in the seven-year-long Syrian war by Russia, Iran, and Iran-backed Shi’ite groups from across the region, including Lebanon’s Hezbollah.

                Reporting by Laila Bassam; Writing by Tom Perry; Editing by Samia Nakhoul

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                • John of Phoenix
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 31214

                  #9
                  Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                  Then and now.
                  He was in vlad's pocket even back then.

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                  • LeeG
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2002
                    • 72803

                    #10
                    Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                    Originally posted by Ian McColgin
                    [IMc - Since Russian agent orange45 tweeted the plan to Putin, of course they moved.]

                    APRIL 13, 2018 / 11:41 PM / UPDATED 16 HOURS AGO
                    Pro-Assad official says targeted bases were evacuated on Russian warning
                    Reuters Staff

                    BEIRUT (Reuters) - The Syrian government and its allies have absorbed a U.S.-led attack on Saturday and the targeted sites were evacuated days ago thanks to a warning from Russia, a senior official in a regional alliance that backs Damascus said.

                    “We have absorbed the strike”, the official told Reuters.

                    “We had an early warning of the strike from the Russians ... and all military bases were evacuated a few days ago,” the official said. Around 30 missiles were fired in the attack, and a third of them were shot down, the official said.

                    “We are carrying out an assessment of the material damages,” the official added.

                    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been backed in the seven-year-long Syrian war by Russia, Iran, and Iran-backed Shi’ite groups from across the region, including Lebanon’s Hezbollah.

                    Reporting by Laila Bassam; Writing by Tom Perry; Editing by Samia Nakhoul
                    Hey, let’s have a parade! We can shoot off fireworks!

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                    • John of Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 31214

                      #11
                      Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                      Ian's post is important not just from the standpoint that there is a mole in the White House, Pentagon, CIA, NSA, etc. but equally important (more so actually) that there was no intel reporting that the assets had been moved from the target areas.

                      Yeah, let's talk about strategy. Once again, "What does winning look like?"

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                      • skuthorp
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 73625

                        #12
                        Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                        Originally posted by John of Phoenix
                        Ian's post is important not just from the standpoint that there is a mole in the White House, Pentagon, CIA, NSA, etc. but equally important (more so actually) that there was no intel reporting that the assets had been moved from the target areas.

                        Yeah, let's talk about strategy. Once again, "What does winning look like?"
                        Getting re-elected as a 'war president'.

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                        • LeeG
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2002
                          • 72803

                          #13
                          Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                          Originally posted by skuthorp
                          Getting re-elected as a 'war president'.
                          worked in 2004 even AFTER there was sufficient evidence the country and Congress was misled. That’s why Blueys comment about Trumpsters being disappointed so ridiculous. Hey, Saddam/Assad made us do it, we have no choice, we’re victims to others pushing our buttons.

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                          • Ian McColgin
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 1999
                            • 51646

                            #14
                            Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                            Reuters gives an honest report and [#8] those are the claims of Assad. The main actors - Putin, Trump, Assad - are constant and brazen liars and the actual truth could be almost anything. There are signs of rationality, at least among the Russian and US military. Our commanders maintained the "let's not stumble into each other" protocols, letting the Russians know where things would be happening. Not the actual targets though those might be utterly obvious, the the area. It appears that the Russians made sure they were out of the way and that the Russians did not engage in any way.

                            I do not see how we have the gall to claim mission accomplished, except for sure we accomplished the mission of using up some of our ordinance.

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                            • delecta
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3591

                              #15
                              Re: Bombing Syria then and now

                              We have no idea what the joint objective might have been, if the decided targets assigned/chosen by US forces were destroyed then claiming success is fine.

                              Unless anyone here has information about targets assigned you're just talking out your a$$.

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