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  • Norman Bernstein
    Liberaltarian
    • Nov 2004
    • 25217

    Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

    I'm sure the bilge conservatives are giddy with the prospects of a 'Trump diplomatic triumph'... if they aren't already in a completely orgiastic fervor.

    Unfortunately, this entire thing is going to be blown utterly out of proportion... because North Korea, and it's hereditary leadership, has an INCREDIBLY long history of defaulting on every attempt at negotiation, going back years.

    Don't believe me? Read the history:



    In this case, Kim Jong-Un has been playing chess with a succession of checkers players. He may indeed be an authoritarian dictator, but he's not insane... there's a method to his madness. Flouting his nuclear ambitions plays right into the fears of western civilization... even though he knows that any attempt to preemptively use nuclear weapons would reduce his country to smoking rubble. The point of all this is to generate the kind of nervous upset which lays the groundwork for temporary 'conciliation', where any overtures towards peace talks will result in a relaxation of sanctions....

    ....he doesn't need nuclear weapons, he needs food and fuel, and it's what he's 'suing' for, by making these overtures.

    Too bad that he, and his predecessors, have done this repeatedly.

    Read the link.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






  • Norman Bernstein
    Liberaltarian
    • Nov 2004
    • 25217

    #2
    Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

    And there's more:

    First Read: “The North Korea talks mean that Trump has to keep National Security Adviser HR McMaster, right? MSNBC reported that the White House has been preparing to replace McMaster as early as in April. Well, it would be VERY hard to do that now. Also, there is no ambassador to South Korea or any real North Korean experts working inside the White House. Who on Trump’s team has experience in knowing how to deal with North Korea and Kim Jong Un?”
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






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    • AlanMc
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 7635

      #3
      Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

      is there ANYONE with experience with dealing with KJU? anywhere?

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      • Norman Bernstein
        Liberaltarian
        • Nov 2004
        • 25217

        #4
        Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

        Originally posted by AlanMc
        is there ANYONE with experience with dealing with KJU? anywhere?
        There used to be. We used to have an ambassador to South Korea who was certainly familiar with the issues. Right now, we don't have ANY ambassador to South Korea.
        "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






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        • Jim Bow
          Normcore
          • Jul 2008
          • 23985

          #5
          Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

          Dennis Rodman?
          “Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles and see the world is moving" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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          • AlanMc
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 7635

            #6
            Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

            from my light reading it seemed like no one actually dealt with rocket man in person. well, no one that lived anyways.

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            • AlanMc
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2017
              • 7635

              #7
              Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

              Originally posted by Jim Bow
              Dennis Rodman?

              well, maybe THAT GUY... hahah

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              • delecta
                Banned
                • Sep 2007
                • 3591

                #8
                Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                Lets pray and hope that this goes down in flames, nuclear flames. Liberals havn't had an orgasm since the last time Obama burped.

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                • JimD
                  Senior Mumbler
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 29704

                  #9
                  Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                  Originally posted by delecta
                  Lets pray and hope that this goes down in flames, nuclear flames. Liberals havn't had an orgasm since the last time Obama burped.
                  More hopes and prayers? Well, that always works.
                  There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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                  • birlinn
                    Isle of Mull, Scotland
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 10883

                    #10
                    Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                    Originally posted by delecta
                    Lets pray and hope that this goes down in flames, nuclear flames. Liberals havn't had an orgasm since the last time Obama burped.
                    Idiot post of the week there, delecta.

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                    • Ted Hoppe
                      Irritant, Level 2
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 21933

                      #11
                      Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                      Who got played?

                      Trump wiped the Stormy Daniels and Russiagate right off the top of the hour with this news. Twice in a week he delivers positive news to his base. Steel tariffs against China and now this news about an upcoming meeting with North Korea leadership.

                      The South Koreans delivered the message directly as an attempt to get dismissed from steel tariffs Trump want to impose. South Korea is the 3rd largest steel producer with chief exports to US.
                      Without friends none of this is possible.

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                      • Norman Bernstein
                        Liberaltarian
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 25217

                        #12
                        Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                        Originally posted by Ted Hoppe
                        Who got played?

                        Trump wiped the Stormy Daniels and Russiagate right off the top of the hour with this news. Twice in a week he delivers positive news to his base. Steel tariffs against China and now this news about an upcoming meeting with North Korea leadership.
                        Something tells me the Stormy Daniels story has much longer legs, than that.

                        Originally posted by Ted Hoppe
                        The South Koreans delivered the message directly as an attempt to get dismissed from steel tariffs Trump want to impose. South Korea is the 3rd largest steel producer with chief exports to US.
                        You're right. Nobody seems to remember that when he first spouted the tariff line, there weren't going to be any exclusions. The memory of the electorate is sometimes pretty short.
                        "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






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                        • AlanMc
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 7635

                          #13
                          Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                          i don't get this stormy daniels interest. if no one cared about billy and his bj's... why the sudden interest in someone maybe or maybe not sleeping with someone other than their wife?

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                          • SKIP KILPATRICK
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 13573

                            #14
                            Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                            Winning!!!!
                            Skip

                            ---This post is delivered with righteous passion and with a solemn southern directness --
                            ...........fighting against the deliberate polarization of politics...

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                            • AlanMc
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 7635

                              #15
                              Re: Trump is getting played by Rocket Man

                              Originally posted by mmd
                              It goes to the integrity of your nation's leader, Alan. If he is OK with lies and hush money pay-offs within his personal life, what will he do with your nation's trust and purse?


                              well, the point is NO ONE cared when billy was lying. people still don't care that he was lying. but they care that trump may be lying. partisan garbage again.

                              i don't care who billy was sketching out with the same as i don't care who trumpy sketches out with. rule and make policy. sleep with who you want. i would wager that 70% of all these rich and powerful people are sleeping with someone other than their campaign poster partners... WHO CARES?

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