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dposner
02-08-2018, 04:37 PM
Thanks to the members who answered my questions last evening about finishing the inwales and outwales on my shellback

the rales are mahogany and I'd like to finish them in a fashion that goes well with kirby vintage enamels, so it does not have to be gloss. From the feedback I've received from the forum, Cetol would be a good choice. Here's were I can use some help. There appears to be several different formulations of Cetol and I'm not sure at all which one to use, and is there a particular filler I should use on the mahogany before applying the Cetol. If anyone has any in depth advice on using Cetol; I'll take it.

God I love this forum!


David

wizbang 13
02-08-2018, 04:40 PM
Its a "2 part" system .
The first coats are a softish semi gloss. Among these are the original "orange" and then there is the more popular "teak".
The second "part" is a harder gloss. The first part can be used alone, but the gloss part has better abrasion resistance
t does not have the elegance of Varnish, but is easier to apply and positively longer lasting .
It goes on thick, the instructions say"apply liberally" .
This boat is all cetol, hull and spars,Orange plus gloss
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4095/4901836535_a87f0a6871_z_d.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4094/4901836551_32b5e5e123_z_d.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2812/9718653821_2465982dbe_z_d.jpg
I'm a fan of the stuff, being a believer of getting 80 percent of the finish for 20 percent of the work.

wizbang 13
02-08-2018, 04:53 PM
I use it on the spars, tiller,blocks and rub rail of my boat in the Caribbean. It out lasts varnish by a factor of ten.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4636/39401448772_8ed95da199_z_d.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/574/32078571765_378e2b132c_z_d.jpg

wizbang 13
02-08-2018, 04:56 PM
Spars of my 24'er at home
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4449/37578303990_2e3fdbe5c8_z_d.jpg
My plywood 2 cycle devil boat"Bingo" is poly varnished.... but the outboard cowling is cetol over white paint!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4655/39446132884_85fbba031b_z_d.jpg

darroch
02-08-2018, 09:04 PM
I used cetol lite on my gunwales and thwarts - can't remember, maybe three light coats - but it looks better in certain light. See where the sunlight hits the coaming in this picture - it takes on a bit of a yellowish tinge. The three coats were applied 12 years ago on the thwarts and gunwales - a subsequent coat of seafin teak oil is rubbed in with bronze wool each year (sometimes two or three times depending how much love I'm feeling for her). It's pretty straightforward - just rub it in, wipe it off and give it time to dry. Wait for summer and the hot weather or it will take forever.

There was a recent WB article about dying wood that sounds intriguing but I know nothing about fillers.

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I should add that the gunwales and coaming are mahogany and the thwarts, benches and floors are western red cedar.

Phil Y
02-08-2018, 10:34 PM
What they said.

RFNK
02-08-2018, 11:25 PM
Cetol marine is a single pot. Some say it's no better than the range of regular Cetol products that Bruce describes. I use regular Cetol on my WRC house and it lasts a very long time, and recoating is very easy. I"ll definitely use it or Cetol marine on all exterior bright work on my boat.

Rick