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SKIP KILPATRICK
01-30-2018, 02:15 PM
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Woman denied emotional support peacock on United flight


http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/woman-denied-emotional-support-peacock-on-united-flight/ar-BBIti2U?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp


Can you imagine if that thing starting making calls in the middle of a flight?

S.V. Airlie
01-30-2018, 02:17 PM
I don't think you can potty train them either.

SKIP KILPATRICK
01-30-2018, 02:17 PM
I don't want these two on the plane with me either!

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3cdcba9237423d5194de8c36a8e614cc-c

LeeG
01-30-2018, 02:18 PM
she shoulda had quail

Arizona Bay
01-30-2018, 02:21 PM
Emotional support peacock? She should have claimed traveling with it was part of her religious beliefs.

We're heading off the deep end... :D

paulf
01-30-2018, 02:21 PM
Oooh no!!!

SKIP KILPATRICK
01-30-2018, 02:22 PM
Emotional support peacock? She should have claimed traveling with it was part of her religious beliefs.

We're heading off the deep end... :D

Part of her culture! She is a minority native peacock speaker!

Arizona Bay
01-30-2018, 02:41 PM
Might be related to this guy.

NYC subway

http://conteudo.imguol.com.br/c/noticias/3c/2017/07/28/foto-de-pavao-no-metro-de-nova-york-intriga-a-internet-1501247811839_615x470.jpg?mobile

Osborne Russell
01-30-2018, 02:43 PM
Part of her culture! She is a minority native peacock speaker!

A long sad history of being at the very bottom of the S list.

David G
01-30-2018, 02:52 PM
And peacocks can get aggressive. I had 'next-door' neighbors for a while (half a mile away) who kept both peacock and peahen. When I moved in, I thought, "How cool". It took less than a week for me to start plotting their demise. Way louder than roosters, they delighted in flying to the top of MY roof, and screeching at first light. And the cocks would sometimes decide to attack my dog or I as we walked by. On a plane? Hard to picture that working out well.

S.V. Airlie
01-30-2018, 02:56 PM
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBItqMU.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=505&y=299


Woman denied emotional support peacock on United flight


http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/woman-denied-emotional-support-peacock-on-united-flight/ar-BBIti2U?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp


Can you imagine if that thing starting making calls in the middle of a flight?I had about ten of these growing up, drove the neighbors bonkers. Would get up on the roof and the wind would pick them up by the tail and the images of them sailing and screaming in terror across the fields was ummm unique!

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 03:07 PM
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United flight Newark to San Diego all the paperwork in check.

Just did the same for Rosie - Saves us $90 a month per dog in dog fees at our apartment complex. ;)

John of Phoenix
01-30-2018, 03:08 PM
You may notice that this gets no notice on the NYC subway.
Might be related to this guy.

NYC subway

http://conteudo.imguol.com.br/c/noticias/3c/2017/07/28/foto-de-pavao-no-metro-de-nova-york-intriga-a-internet-1501247811839_615x470.jpg?mobile

SKIP KILPATRICK
01-30-2018, 03:11 PM
You may notice that this gets no notice on the NYC subway.

Isn't that great!

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 03:44 PM
Isn't that great!

What peacock ?

Phil Y
01-30-2018, 03:54 PM
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United flight Newark to San Diego all the paperwork in check.

Just did the same for Rosie - Saves us $90 a month per dog in dog fees at our apartment complex. ;)
Really? You can just take your pet dog in the cabin?

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 04:02 PM
Really? You can just take your pet dog in the cabin?

It's not a pet is an ESA service animal ;), and yes, provided you have all the proper paperwork in order it's perfectly ok to fly with your dog.

If available she even gets her own seat.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207026694279252&set=a.2099043269129.115374.1036804553&type=3&theater
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I also get to board first - even before first class passengers.

Phil Y
01-30-2018, 04:05 PM
I think that winky smiley thing is your way of saying it's just a pet and you are happily abusing the system. I don't support that. Same as abusing disable car park spaces etc, etc. Bad karma.

John of Phoenix
01-30-2018, 04:07 PM
You, of all people, with an EMOTIONAL support animal. Hilarious. :D

AlanMc
01-30-2018, 04:11 PM
emotional support animals... ugh. the wussification continues.

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 04:15 PM
I think that winky smiley thing is your way of saying it's just a pet and you are happily abusing the system. I don't support that. Same as abusing disable car park spaces etc, etc. Bad karma.

Again every single piece of paperwork is in perfect order. Ella is registered and certified - Including a doctors letter and prescription verification. As well as United Airlines own emotional support or psychiatric assist form. The form must be completed and filled out and signed by a medical or mental health professional. Additionally you must provide a minimum 48-hour advance notification to the United Accessibility Desk.

All boxes checked and done, so frankly if I'm in compliance with United Airlines and FAA I really don't care or need your support ;)

Don't be hatin the playa, hate the game :D

Edited to add as I said before, it also saves us $90 per dog per month in rental fees where we live ;)

Jim Bow
01-30-2018, 04:17 PM
The peacock thing has to be a prank, doesn't it? Please, tell me it is!

Phil Y
01-30-2018, 04:22 PM
Again every single piece of paperwork is in perfect order. Ella is registered and certified - Including a doctors letter and prescription verification. As well as United Airlines own emotional support or psychiatric assist form. The form must be completed and filled out and signed by a medical or mental health professional. Additionally you must provide a minimum 48-hour advance notification to the United Accessibility Desk.

All boxes checked and done, so frankly if I'm in compliance with United Airlines and FAA I really don't care or need your support ;)

Don't be hatin the playa, hate the game :D

Edited to add as I said before, it also saves us $90 per dog per month in rental fees where we live ;)

Thats an attitude I don't understand. Certainly don't admire. I don't know where morality or community or fairness fit in. I think it's the sort of thing that leads to a society that says hey, if you can break into a storage area and steal a couple of bikes, that's OK. It's the game, right?

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 04:27 PM
Yup, and I look at my watch well driving - I'm Kra kra krazy :)

You really want to compare cutting locks and stealing bikes with not wanting your service animal in the luggage cargo hold ? WOW talk about Kra Kra. Hey anyway different strokes for different folks. My side of the Karma street is pretty good these days, looking for my insurance check to go Colnago shopping.

I'm gonna go for a Vespa ride to the gym, laters

Art Haberland
01-30-2018, 04:28 PM
she shoulda had quail

I am not sure Dan is all the emotionally supportive

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Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 04:38 PM
Before I go something to consider.


United had 53 animals die on its flights from January 2012 through February 2017, the most recent month available, according to the Transportation Department’s Air Travel Consumer Report. That compared with a total of 136 animals that died on all flights of airlines.


No ESA animals legally allowed in the cabin died.

Kevin G
01-30-2018, 04:40 PM
Gotta love those liberal New Yawkers (Californians) What an abuse. I thought that was what your sweetheart was for.

Figment
01-30-2018, 04:54 PM
I think you don't mean that his sweetheart's purpose is abuse.
I think you mean that her purpose is emotional support.

Pronouns are tricky.

John of Phoenix
01-30-2018, 04:54 PM
Joe, you should fill out papers declaring you as Ella's support animal. Reciprocal arrangement.

Kevin G
01-30-2018, 04:57 PM
Stand corrected.

AlanMc
01-30-2018, 04:58 PM
you have to excuse joe on this topic. his entire livelihood is built around people that are overly attached to their pets.

pkrone
01-30-2018, 09:00 PM
Thats an attitude I don't understand. Certainly don't admire. I don't know where morality or community or fairness fit in. I think it's the sort of thing that leads to a society that says hey, if you can break into a storage area and steal a couple of bikes, that's OK. It's the game, right?

Hypocrisy and gaming the system know no political boundaries...

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 09:23 PM
The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_42_of_the_United_States_Code) 12101 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/12101))
You are not allowed to even ask what my disability is. If a medical or mental health professional has signed off on my disability ONLY AN ACT OF CONGRESS CAN CHANGE THE LAW.

Regardless of what you think, speculate or conjure of my disabilities they were deemed in accordance within the legal parameters and definitions outlined by the ADA by medical and mental health professionals.

pkrone
01-30-2018, 09:33 PM
It seems one can just go out there on the world wide web and get a kit to register your dog as support animal. No medical or mental health professional has to sign off on this. Again, hypocrisy...
http://usdogregistry.org/registration/register-emotional-support-dog/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoqK9pZSB2QIVmYSzCh0UhQQbEAAYASA BEgLnH_D_BwE

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 09:36 PM
It seems one can just go out there on the world wide web and get a kit to register your dog as support animal. No medical or mental health professional has to sign off on this. Again, hypocrisy...
http://usdogregistry.org/registration/register-emotional-support-dog/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoqK9pZSB2QIVmYSzCh0UhQQbEAAYASA BEgLnH_D_BwE

Yup but it's MEANINGLESS piece of paper unless you have a medical professional sign off on your disability. You can be a fool and spend your money but you can't get on a plane or any ADA benefits without the full and proper MEDICAL documentation.

Phil Y
01-30-2018, 09:52 PM
The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_42_of_the_United_States_Code) 12101 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/12101))
You are not allowed to even ask what my disability is. If a medical or mental health professional has signed off on my disability ONLY AN ACT OF CONGRESS CAN CHANGE THE LAW.

Regardless of what you think, speculate or conjure of my disabilities they were deemed in accordance within the legal parameters and definitions outlined by the ADA by medical and mental health professionals.


Joe if you genuinely suffer from a disability which requires you to have a dog with you when you fly, I regret invading your privacy and forcing you to declare your situation. I am genuinely sorry.

If you are just saying you were able to get a medical professional to sign the required piece of paper, then I guess thats just fraud as well as being selfish and small minded.

In explanation of my comments, I was somewhat swayed by your use of a smily winky emoticon, and your emphasis that this dodge saves you $90 per dog per month. Comments like "dont hate the player, hate the game", also seem to suggest you are gaming the system.

Be that as it may, I offer my unreserved apology for any offence or embarrassment caused.

Joe (SoCal)
01-30-2018, 10:00 PM
I accept your apology