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01-25-2018, 11:04 AM

Amateur Flat-Earther Who Wants to Prove His Crazy Theory Is Back With a New Rocket We have a new launch date.

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24 JAN 2018

Even NASA had disasters with its moon missions, so was it really fair to expect Mike Hughes to build a rocket, fly to space, and prove once and for all that the Earth is flat without a few hitches along the way?

Hughes - a 61-year-old daredevil-turned-rocket-maker-turned-round-Earth-skeptic - intends to launch himself 52 miles into the sky by the end of year. Then he'll see for himself whether the planet is shaped like a ball, as most of humankind has believed for centuries, or like a Frisbee (https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions), as most flat-Earth philosophies assume.
The problem is, Hughes said, the hot-air balloon, rocket pack and space suit he needs to get him to the required vantage point (we're hazy on the specific logistics) will cost about $2 million. He's a limo driver by trade.
To raise the money, Hughes was going to launch himself a mile across the Mojave Desert back in November, in a steam-powered rocket with "RESEARCH FLAT EARTH" on the side, as a fundraising stunt. Call it Phase 1 of his one-man space program.
He got the publicity he wanted, and then some, with headlines around across the world. But the rocket launch never happened.

"This is what happens anytime you have to deal with any kind of government agency," Hughes told The Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/11/24/a-flat-earthers-plan-to-launch-himself-in-a-homemade-rocket-just-hit-a-speed-bump/?utm_term=.f55b244acb77)at the time. He said the Bureau of Land Management forbade him from launching in Amboy, California, hours before he was set to go.

Worse, he said, while he tried to get the paperwork sorted out, his combined mobile home/rocket launcher broke down in his driveway. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/11/27/a-flat-earthers-plan-to-launch-himself-in-a-homemade-rocket-has-been-postponed-again/?utm_term=.6a27c2b77e67)
While he set about his repairs, much of the public turned against Hughes. Some mocked him for believing in a flat Earth.
Some suggested he'd only adopted the philosophy to raise funds for his stunts, and a few even accused him of faking his previous rocket flight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3feaiPcv6yE) several years ago.
Now, Hughes says, he's ready to launch again - with a redesigned rocket that he will climb inside on Feburary 3 and fly straight up, for a third of a mile, to complete phase 1 of his mission and win back the public's faith.
He's got a bit of damage control to do in the meantime.
"The flat-Earth stuff, it makes people crazy," Hughes told The Washington Post. "No matter what I do, people are going to minimise it."
He recorded a video last week rebutting some of the accusations against him - notably questioning his faith in flat-Earth theory, if not also his wisdom in trying to steam himself off the surface of the disc.

"People are calling me not a flat-Earther," Hughes said in the video (https://www.facebook.com/madmikehughes/videos/1726093560776311/). "Do I believe the Earth is shaped like a Frisbee, or flat, or whatever? I do, because in my months of research I've not been able to prove otherwise."
Forget space, Hughes said, he's also come to doubt what lies under the planet's surface. "We've only drilled 7 1/2 miles into the Earth," he said. "So all the crap we were taught in school about the mantle is all B.S. No one knows."
Hughes said he's parted ways with the Flat Earth Society and other flat-Earth organizations that helped fund and publicise his failed November launch. (He raised nearly $8,000 on GoFundMe.)
He's an independent thinker now, and said if he makes it into space and sees a curved horizon, he'll accept that the Earth is round.
He just needs to see for himself.
Anyway, that's a ways off. First, Hughes needs to avoid another delay, and launch next week on private property outside Amboy - with "FLAT EARTH" emblazoned on the side of his new rocket, so as to convince people to donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to build the balloon and buy the space suit for Phase 2.

Because he plans to take off on private property this time, he said, the government can't get in his way.
In his video, Hughes also addressed critics who accused him of faking his most famous stunt before his flat-Earth conversion, a rocket launch in 2014, because video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3feaiPcv6yE) of the stunt never shows him inside the thing.
Easy explanation, Hughes said: His cameraman had to stop filming to help him with the canopy.
While he won't allow live spectators at next Saturday's launch - and has promised to shoot down any drones - he said in the video it would be live-streamed.
But when The Post phoned Hughes on Wednesday, he said the pay-per-view company he planned to use was "going bankrupt," and he was looking for alternatives.
To paraphrase John F. Kennedy (https://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm) at the dawn of the moon missions, no one said this would be easy.
2017 The Washington Post

01-25-2018, 11:04 AM
Seems to be missing the engine!

George Jung
01-25-2018, 11:08 AM
A cheaper, less-sophisticated PT Barnum.

01-25-2018, 02:13 PM
Sounds like he's qualified for a post in Trump's cabinet.

Peerie Maa
01-25-2018, 02:15 PM
"People are calling me not a flat-Earther," Hughes said in the video (https://www.facebook.com/madmikehughes/videos/1726093560776311/). "Do I believe the Earth is shaped like a Frisbee, or flat, or whatever? I do, because in my months of research I've not been able to prove otherwise."
He should look at airliner flight times, comparing the duration around where ever he thinks the edge is with those around the centre.

Rich Jones
01-25-2018, 02:36 PM
Seems to be missing the engine!
Also missing a brain.

01-25-2018, 04:30 PM
Seems to be missing the engine!

No engine needed. He's going to use a huge rubber band to launch the rocket just like Wiley E. Coyote did in all of those Warner Bros. documentaries on life in the West.

01-25-2018, 05:40 PM
Sounds like he's qualified for a post in Trump's cabinet.

Absolutely! Or maybe just top man at NASA.

01-25-2018, 07:35 PM
When and if he does “light the candle” I sincerely hope there will be video. Lots of it.
I predict he’ll end up as flat as that frisbee he references. Both Pythagoras and Darwin will again be vindicated.

Dave Gray
01-25-2018, 08:45 PM
Flying at 35,000 ft on a clear day will pretty much prove what he wants. A rocket? I guess we all need something to do when we have retired. Not there yet.

George Jung
01-25-2018, 09:49 PM
Flying that rocket is what ya do when your doc calls ya- tells ya ‘you’ve got 2 weeks to live’ - and we’ve been trying to reach you for ten days!’

01-25-2018, 09:55 PM
If the earth was flat I don't think there would be stories like these:


CK 17
01-25-2018, 10:07 PM
All he has to do is time when the sun rises at various points around the planet. It will prove he is on an arc. All he needs is a good clock and a map. If he does manage to get airborne, i hope the inevitable happens quick and suffering is minimal.

01-25-2018, 10:14 PM
At first I thought Evel was back.

Lew Barrett
01-26-2018, 12:28 AM

He looks happy, confident and poised.

His design is likely inspired by the OHKA, a manned rocket whose singular purpose was to bring the pilot to the scene of the explosion.


01-26-2018, 12:35 AM
I completely resent any and all media given to these flat earth utter morons and their ilk. They are simply incubators for further stupidity.

And supposedly we are the product of the Enlightenment. HAH!