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sharpiefan
12-13-2017, 04:40 PM
Bones of a Colossal Human-Sized Penguin Have Been Discovered in New Zealand (ARTICLE LINK) (https://www.sciencealert.com/giant-penguin-new-zealand-otago-kumimanu-biceae)

https://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/processed/emperor_penguin_shutterstock_600.jpg

Image: This is not the actual penguin
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A new species of prehistoric penguin has been found in New Zealand, and it's so big that the researcher who found its bones initially couldn't figure out what kind of animal it was.

Dating back to the late Paleocene 60-56 million years ago, the newly named Kumimanu biceae was so big it stood 1.65 metres tall (5'5") and measured 1.77 metres in length (5'10") when swimming. It weighed up to 100 kilograms (220 pounds).

It's one of the biggest penguins that ever existed, coming in at just under the size of extinct Late Eocene Antarctic penguin Palaeeudyptes klekowskii, which was 2 metres long and weighed 115 kilograms.

But although it's not breaking size records, K. biceae is the earliest giant penguin ever discovered, according to Te Papa Museum curator Alan Tennyson, who found the first piece of the skeleton in 2004.


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SKIP KILPATRICK
12-13-2017, 04:42 PM
Meh! Ours are better!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/nintchdbpict000312839422.jpg?strip=all&w=960&quality=100

L.W. Baxter
12-13-2017, 04:55 PM
To be fair, lots of modern penguins are human-sized. Just have to find the right human.

Chris Smith porter maine
12-13-2017, 06:16 PM
The part of this story that surprised me was 20 million years before whale's.

Peerie Maa
12-13-2017, 07:17 PM
The part of this story that surprised me was 20 million years before whale's.

Birds were already around before the dinosaur extinction, whales had to evolve from land based herbivores like hippos. Mammals only took off after the KT extinction when they were small shrew like insectivores.

Chris Smith porter maine
12-13-2017, 07:41 PM
Birds were already around before the dinosaur extinction, whales had to evolve from land based herbivores like hippos. Mammals only took off after the KT extinction when they were small shrew like insectivores.

Thanks Nick, I'll do some Google's, I learned some math from the Jesuits but evolution wasn't there strong point.

L.W. Baxter
12-13-2017, 07:46 PM
Have we really found NZ yet, i mean its not on the game of risk map..

Certainly not as popular as Kamchatka.

Chip-skiff
12-13-2017, 08:00 PM
We lived in NZ and being married to a wildlife biologist, I was educated in the peculiarities of the place.

One being that, owing to the isolation from other land masses, there were no strictly terrestrial mammals. There were bats, which likely were blown across the Tasman Sea in storms. But virtually all the ecological niches were filled by birds or insects: the moa was the equivalent of the bison. Kea were like flying dingos. Weta (huge crickets) were like mice and voles.

It was a haven for marine species, such as penguins (several species), and coastal and pelagic birds such as the gannet and albatross.

The Mäori brought rats, dogs and pigs. The English brought more of them, along with cats, ferrets, and stoats, that have decimated the native birds and ravaged their nesting sites.

John B
12-13-2017, 08:02 PM
Wabbits, don't forget them , or the Aussie possum.

Chip-skiff
12-13-2017, 08:10 PM
Wabbits, don't forget them , or the Aussie possum.

Right! I was doing predators. But sheep and cattle are hell on native ecosystems, and rabbits are hell on bird species such as kiwi and takahe. The possums are a hungry blight, devouring native bush.

I buy lots of possum/merino clothing, to support the trapping of the damn things.

John B
12-13-2017, 08:30 PM
Shoot a possum in Aussie and they jail you. Shoot one here and you're applauded. Most are poisoned now, its contentious.

We were amazed by the lack of birds in the pacific around Tonga and Fiji. I think we saw more in one day back here than we saw the entire 5 months away.

LeeG
12-13-2017, 08:58 PM
http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/giant-prehistoric-penguin-kumimanu-biceae-05529.html

According to the team, this gigantism developed as a result of the seabirds’ flightlessness. This raises the question why no penguin giants are alive today.

“Giant penguins developed shortly after the mass extinction near the end of the Cretaceous period, approximately 66 million years ago,” the researchers said.

“It is possible that the disappearance of large marine reptiles enabled the penguins to explore new ecological niches.”

WX
12-13-2017, 09:06 PM
Bones of a Colossal Human-Sized Penguin Have Been Discovered in New Zealand (ARTICLE LINK) (https://www.sciencealert.com/giant-penguin-new-zealand-otago-kumimanu-biceae)

https://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/processed/emperor_penguin_shutterstock_600.jpg

Image: This is not the actual penguin
(polarman/Shutterstock)



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Had to chuckle over the fact they felt the need to point out the penguin in the photo is not the actual penguin.:)

John B
12-13-2017, 09:08 PM
The Moa got snacked to death, perhaps the same happened to those big chicken pies in the water.

TomF
12-13-2017, 09:36 PM
Tastes like kinda fishy chicken.

Shang
12-13-2017, 10:14 PM
Shoot a possum in Aussie and they jail you. Shoot one here and you're applauded. Most are poisoned now, its contentious.

We were amazed by the lack of birds in the pacific around Tonga and Fiji. I think we saw more in one day back here than we saw the entire 5 months away.

I've mentioned here, "Don't feed wild animals...Do as I say, not as I do."

Tonight we've have visits from "Long-tail" and "Stumpy."
Bread crusts and peanut butter. Pink toes.

Peerie Maa
12-14-2017, 07:04 AM
Thanks Nick, I'll do some Google's, I learned some math from the Jesuits but evolution wasn't their strong point.

Neither it would see was English grammar :D

Peerie Maa
12-14-2017, 07:07 AM
http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/giant-prehistoric-penguin-kumimanu-biceae-05529.html

According to the team, this gigantism developed as a result of the seabirds’ flightlessness. This raises the question why no penguin giants are alive today.

“Giant penguins developed shortly after the mass extinction near the end of the Cretaceous period, approximately 66 million years ago,” the researchers said.

“It is possible that the disappearance of large marine reptiles enabled the penguins to explore new ecological niches.”

And then large marine mammals evolved to compete with the large penguins.

John B
12-14-2017, 06:14 PM
The Moa got snacked to death, perhaps the same happened to those big chicken pies in the water.
I was channeling whatever the predator dejour of the day was with that remark, but I was really thinking of that chilling encounter the Shackelton people had with a sea leopard that was stalking them on the ice.
And the reason I was thinking about that is that the sea leopard that took up residence in our marina last year has come back and brought a friend.
So now we have 2 x 10 ft plus, many hundred kilogram apex predators sunning themselves and living off the local fish foodbank right in our marina.
It adds a certain how do say , excitement, to the walk to ones boat.

People with lapdogs warned about walking on piers.....

Chris Smith porter maine
12-14-2017, 06:29 PM
Neither it would see was English grammar :D

That would be my failing not there's.

Peerie Maa
12-14-2017, 06:31 PM
that would be my failing not there's.

:d :d :d

Chip-skiff
12-14-2017, 06:54 PM
I was channeling whatever the predator dejour of the day was with that remark, but I was really thinking of that chilling encounter the Shackelton people had with a sea leopard that was stalking them on the ice.
And the reason I was thinking about that is that the sea leopard that took up residence in our marina last year has come back and brought a friend.
So now we have 2 x 10 ft plus, many hundred kilogram apex predators sunning themselves and living off the local fish foodbank right in our marina.
It adds a certain how do say , excitement, to the walk to ones boat.

People with lapdogs warned about walking on piers.....

When we set off on a low-tide walk toward Cape Kidnappers south of Napier, there was a leopard seal hauled out on the beach, sunning.

https://i.imgur.com/J3bpenG.jpg

We gave it a wide berth and it never even twitched.

Dave Hadfield
12-14-2017, 07:59 PM
Of course they weren't the only birds to evolve large size very quickly after the asteroid struck.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MD6GhPFRMtU/V7snLWA0tBI/AAAAAAAAEEQ/j3i_XmJDSGE09fwghG5joNbGDhw4OW2UwCLcB/s1600/Prehistoric%2BAnimals%2B-%2BTerror%2BBird.JPG

Iceboy
12-15-2017, 08:17 AM
Wise choice to give the wide berth. It may not seem like they are too coordinated on land but they are surprisingly fast with VERY large sharp teeth. damhikt.

When we set off on a low-tide walk toward Cape Kidnappers south of Napier, there was a leopard seal hauled out on the beach, sunning.

https://i.imgur.com/J3bpenG.jpg

We gave it a wide berth and it never even twitched.