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  • NickW
    Bournemouth, Dorset UK
    • May 2009
    • 2402

    Chinese Dredger



    The new dredging ship raises concerns Beijing will continue building islands in disputed waters.


    AKA Create your own Exclusive Economic Zone. Damm smart the Chinese.

    Nick
  • Andrew Craig-Bennett
    Who?
    • Aug 1999
    • 28509

    #2
    Re: Chinese Dredger

    Three Olympic swimming pools an hour.
    IMAGINES VEL NON FUERINT

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    • skuthorp
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2002
      • 73705

      #3
      Re: Chinese Dredger

      The US has lost this battle, welcome to being No. 2.

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      • AlanMc
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2017
        • 7671

        #4
        Re: Chinese Dredger

        i'd have to worry about the stability of an island you dredged up and dumped in a pile.

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        • skuthorp
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2002
          • 73705

          #5
          Re: Chinese Dredger

          I don't think that's very important in the Chinese long term view, and unlike weathervaning US administrations the Chinese do take a very long view. A 'sphere of influence' once established does not depend on an island being washed away or not for its continuance.
          Last edited by skuthorp; 11-06-2017, 02:25 PM.

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          • StevenBauer
            LPBC member
            • Jan 2000
            • 23288

            #6
            Re: Chinese Dredger

            And lookit the size of that giant sawhorse!

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            • Norman Bernstein
              Liberaltarian
              • Nov 2004
              • 25223

              #7
              Re: Chinese Dredger

              Originally posted by mmd
              I believe that Tokyo's airport is on a man-made island...
              Nope, it's Kansai, near Osaka:

              Kansai International Airport (関西国際空港 Kansai Kokusai Kūkō) (IATA: KIX, ICAO: RJBB) is an international airport located on an artificial island in the middle of Osaka Bay, 38 km (24 mi) southwest of Ōsaka Station,[4] located within three municipalities, including Izumisano (north),[5] Sennan (south),[6] and Tajiri (central),[7] in Osaka Prefecture, Japan. The airport is off the Honshu shore and was designed by Italian architect Renzo Piano. The airport serves as an international hub for All Nippon Airways, Japan Airlines, and Nippon Cargo Airlines, and also serves as a hub for Peach, the first international low-cost carrier in Japan.
              "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






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              • SKIP KILPATRICK
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 13573

                #8
                Re: Chinese Dredger

                Originally posted by skuthorp
                I don't think that's very important in the Chinese long term view, and unlike weathervaning US administrations the Chinese do take a very long view. A 'sphere of influence' once established does not depend on an island being washed away or not for its continuance.
                When you have a one party state run by dictatorship, it's easier to take the "long term view". As, flawed as our two party democracy is, I'd take it over china.
                Skip

                ---This post is delivered with righteous passion and with a solemn southern directness --
                ...........fighting against the deliberate polarization of politics...

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                • Chris Smith porter maine
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5684

                  #9
                  Re: Chinese Dredger

                  Originally posted by skuthorp
                  The US has lost this battle, welcome to being No. 2.
                  It's not the US that lost, it's Japan, Malaysia, Vietnam, the phillipennes, Korea, South East Asia all of it, that lost, heck you Australian s perhaps lost the most, with your dependency on coal sales and raw material exports now the chinese can just come get that stuff at will, I can't see England saving you, we on the other hand are the market, never has so much been protected by so little.

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                  • carioca1232001
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 5142

                    #10
                    Re: Chinese Dredger

                    Around 250 years ago, India and China were quite a formidable force, their combined economic output accounting for 50% of our planet´s .

                    Their population taken together is currently over the 2,5 billion mark, with China poised to contend for the top position in the world economic order; India is on a much slower track, but nevertheless the Indian economy is currently booming while China´s has slowed down somewhat.

                    The US is beginning to acknowledge India´s rise as a major player in the Asia-Pacific region:

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                    • Reynard38
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 12533

                      #11
                      Re: Chinese Dredger

                      Originally posted by AlanMc
                      i'd have to worry about the stability of an island you dredged up and dumped in a pile.
                      Perfect analogy for the current administration.

                      Sorry I just couldn't resist.
                      Fight Entropy, build a wooden boat!

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                      • Gerarddm
                        #RESIST
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 32555

                        #12
                        Re: Chinese Dredger

                        Sink it.
                        Gerard>
                        Albuquerque, NM

                        Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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                        • skuthorp
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 73705

                          #13
                          Re: Chinese Dredger

                          Originally posted by Chris Smith porter maine
                          It's not the US that lost, it's Japan, Malaysia, Vietnam, the phillipennes, Korea, South East Asia all of it, that lost, heck you Australian s perhaps lost the most, with your dependency on coal sales and raw material exports now the chinese can just come get that stuff at will, I can't see England saving you, we on the other hand are the market, never has so much been protected by so little.
                          The Australian political community, and Government in particular, is just waking up to the fact that Trump's America is not the same as America has been since WW2. It can no longer be relied upon, and frankly it's not before time that Aus took a good look at itself and ceased outsourcing it's foreign policies to Washington. Those countries you quote are in a similar position and realignments will and are ocurring. It's all in the mix at present, if Donald get's a second term then all bets are off.

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