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PeterSibley
10-05-2017, 06:32 PM
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gypsie
10-05-2017, 06:34 PM
^ :d

Rich Jones
10-05-2017, 06:58 PM
Sadly, that day has dawned.

Jim Bow
10-06-2017, 12:23 AM
He was complaining that people knew of their presidential candidates only by newspaper and radio. He never conceived of TV and interwebs.
The full quote:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

Gerarddm
10-06-2017, 12:58 AM
Prescient bugger, wasn't he?

PeterSibley
10-06-2017, 02:06 AM
What would have been the result if the US had democracy instead of the Electoral College ?

Rich Jones
10-06-2017, 04:20 AM
What would have been the result if the US had democracy instead of the Electoral College ?We would now have a competent president instead of a moronic one.

skuthorp
10-06-2017, 06:24 AM
I wonder if the Presidency, as was, will ever be the same again? I am not talking of anything 'official' of course. The permanent State agencies, having gotten used to circumnavigating an unstable President and keeping the country going despite his best attempts, will they ever be prepared to hand the power back?
Then there's the possibility of disaster with Donald. HUGE disaster. I'm sure as I sit here that there will be talks, and maybe a plan just in case he attempts to do something really silly.

TomF
10-06-2017, 06:37 AM
This is the 2nd time you had a media star elected; worked worse than the first time. But part of the problem, I think, is the Primary process, and electing a President directly.

Many places elect a party through the general election, and have part leaders elected through quite a bit smaller processes open only to paid-up members of that party. Removes most of the money sloshing around in the Primary game, and about 80% of the circus atmosphere. Allowing better odds of a competent person emerging.

No guarantee of course, but better odds.

skuthorp
10-06-2017, 06:41 AM
Of course in past US Presidential elections, a foreign power is not supplying half of the advertising……………...