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Norman Bernstein
10-05-2017, 10:16 AM
In today's bizarro world of politics:


A new USA Today/Suffolk University poll (http://www.suffolk.edu/news/73845.php#.WdY8Z4ZJldA) finds that voters’ assessment of the Republican Party has plummeted to 62% unfavorable/23% favorable, significantly changed from the 55% unfavorable/32% favorable registered in a June poll.

The Democratic Party recorded a 48% unfavorable/37% favorable rating in the most recent poll.

Said pollster David Paleologos: “The Republican Party is in freefall. In March the GOP had a 48% unfavorable rating, in June the negative swelled to 55%. Today the GOP unfavorable is 62%. What’s next?”

What's next? Continued Republican wins... much due to gerrymandering, which it seems likely that the Supreme Court is going to ignore.

There is an argument to be made, that there's really now a third party in American politics: the anti-Washington party.


GOP strategist Alex Castellanos emails with this provocative statement: “Very little Donald Trump does makes sense if you believe we still have only two political parties.”

He suggests that much more of what the president does makes sense “if you see him as the leader of new, third party ripped from the old, establishment GOP he has left behind.”
He continues:


For decades, America’s cultural elites have wondered, “Why doesn’t the United States have a multi-party democracy like France, Germany, or the Kardashian family?” Well, congratulations Europhiles. Finally, our huddled masses have been civilized. The U.S. now has three political parties. A new, brightly-colored, anti-Washington party has evolved from two old institutions that became interchangeably gray and dull…

Opposite these crumbling political institutions, a third option has evolved, compelled by the demands of the market. This new, ideologically barren, anti-Washington party is willing to deal with the devil to defeat the devil, so to speak. Led by President Trump, it is waging an all-out, two-front war against both Democrats and Republicans.

From the hollow Republican party of yesterday, he has cleaved a new “Trump GOP” in his image…


To Castellanos, the rise of Trump was only possible only because the two major political parties offered a poor alternative.

There’s some truth to this. The GOP has been in an ideological civil war for years. Nearly all of Trump’s appeal is his rejection of establishment Republicans.

But the Democratic party was not united during the 2016 election either. There’s considerable evidence (https://politicalwire.com/2017/08/23/sanders-voters-tipped-election-trump/) that Bernie Sanders primary voters actually tipped the general election to Trump. Even though Hillary Clinton and Sanders were fairly close on the ideological spectrum, much of Sanders support was because he was an outsider rejecting the Democratic party.

How the two parties deal with this rejection will probably decide the next presidential election.

Canoez
10-05-2017, 10:28 AM
Interesting article on Slate about the Gerrymandering debate before the Supreme Court: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/10/sonia_sotomayor_s_simple_devastating_question_in_g ill_v_whitford.html

A snip from the article that is telling:


...While the words in this paragraph did have the benefit of cohering into intelligible English sentences, Murphy’s answer again made no sense. In 2014, Wisconsin Republicans received 52 percent of the vote and won 63 out of 99 seatsin the State Assembly. In 2016, they won the same percentage of the statewide vote and captured 64 seats. Murphy’s rosy response was technically correct, but it elides the fact that Republicans won a bare majority of votes overall yet captured a near-supermajority of assembly seats. Moreover, she conveniently ignored the 2012 election from her response. Perhaps that’s because in 2012, Wisconsin Republicans won just 48.6 percent of the statewide vote—and captured 60 out of 99 seats. That’s what a stacked deck looks like.

CWSmith
10-05-2017, 10:29 AM
The Democratic Party recorded a 48% unfavorable/37% favorable rating in the most recent poll.

I have to say the Dems are not doing much better.

amish rob
10-05-2017, 10:31 AM
Dude, I honestly thought this was going to be about The Patriots. :d

Instead, just more depressing news... :)

Peace,
Robert

Rum_Pirate
10-05-2017, 10:32 AM
What's next? Continued Republican wins... much due to gerrymandering, which it seems likely that the Supreme Court is going to ignore.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/03/gerry.png&w=1484

Too Little Time
10-05-2017, 10:40 AM
To Castellanos, the rise of Trump was only possible only because the two major political parties offered a poor alternative.

I have said that many times. It does not make me right, but I do have respected company.