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Paul Pless
10-01-2017, 09:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg6L_7qLIEQ

Norman Bernstein
10-01-2017, 09:10 AM
What kind of transmission is that? It looks as if it's sequential, like a motorcycle transmission, instead of a pattern....

One other question: do they send a truck up to the top with fresh tires, so the car can drive back down? Surely, there can't be much tread left by the time it reaches the top.

amish rob
10-01-2017, 09:17 AM
https://youtu.be/sKOaF7esBFY
You ever seen Ken Box? :)

They are getting good at making these films.

Peace,
Robert

amish rob
10-01-2017, 09:59 AM
What kind of transmission is that? It looks as if it's sequential, like a motorcycle transmission, instead of a pattern....

One other question: do they send a truck up to the top with fresh tires, so the car can drive back down? Surely, there can't be much tread left by the time it reaches the top.
Yes, the shifter is a sequential deal. I think that’s old rally tech, or maybe current rally tech.

The other big lever is the “turning brake” which is like the e-brake. :) The turning brake only works the rears.
The prerunner car I used to run (while my buddy took notes in the passenger seat), had two turning brakes, one for each rear wheel. We were not trying to drift, though.

My buddy has a gymkhana car. It’s a Lancer Evo that makes something like 650 horsepower. There are special compound tires, but, yes, the drifting and spinning eats up the tires. :)
And it really smells.

Peace,
Robert

Jim Bow
10-01-2017, 12:01 PM
If you prefer un-edited footage, try Claude Lelouch, high speed through Paris, early morning 1976. 16mm. Ferrari.

https://youtu.be/zvDXlDxMnb4




I know, I know, it was a Mercedes, and a 35mm gyro balanced camera, with ferrari sound added later, but "print the legend.

carioca1232001
10-01-2017, 12:16 PM
For those in the know...which of the two driving feats is more demanding on the overall skill of the driver ?

Climbkhana or driving at break-neck speed through the streets of Paris, prior to sunrise (post #5) ?

Or are the two separate and distinct entities, that do not afford comparison in any meaningful way ?

Paul Pless
10-01-2017, 12:18 PM
The drive through Paris never exceeded 40 mph and was done in the directors four dour Mercedes 300.

carioca1232001
10-01-2017, 12:26 PM
Fair enough and besides a hint in post#5.....but then permit me to ask (I am in awe over the skill shown in the Climbkhana, over and over again, impeccably !)......

F 1 driver vs Climbkhana driver ?

Amenable to comparison ?

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
10-01-2017, 01:26 PM
The drive through Paris never exceeded 40 mph and was done in the directors four dour Mercedes 300.

Hah, the low perspective tries to fool but the trees don't lie, nor his overtaking speed. Hah, squealing tires. However, blowing through all the red lights is a little sketchy. I will say that the Ferrari sound track was well timed, double-clutching behind another car before overtaking.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
10-01-2017, 01:37 PM
Pikes Peak was only paved in the last few years. Before it was all dirt. But when the AWD rally cars came out, Audi Quattro first, they started setting fast times, lower than the special "race" chassis (picture Indy cars but for dirt) which had rear-mid engines but only RWD. Back in the day, the records were usually held by one of the Audi works drivers, or one of the Unsers (that was their backyard). But later things really started to mix up as nearly all manufacturers started fielding fast AWD cars for the world rally circuit. And paving the road changed it completely. They didn't pave it for the race, but surprisingly, environmental reasons. From wiki:


Litigation was pursued by the Sierra Club (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Club) in 1998-1999, on grounds of environmental damage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_degradation) from the gravel portion of the road.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikes_Peak_Highway#cite_note-7) The environmental damage was caused primarily by the 150,000,000 pounds (70,000 t) of gravel that washes away annually. The same amount needed to be hauled up the mountain each year in order to maintain the road surface. Environmental damage includes alpine ponds and wetlands becoming filled with gravel, and layers of gravel averaging 2 feet (0.6 m) to 4 feet (1.2 m) feet deep covering the forest floor below.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikes_Peak_Highway#cite_note-8) Pursuant to the settlement agreed by the Sierra Club and the City of Colorado Springs, the unpaved portion of the Pikes Peak Highway became a hard-surface road, despite concerns that such a project would radically change the nature of the annual automobile and motorcycle race. The paving project was completed on October 1, 2011.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikes_Peak_Highway#cite_note-9)
Pikes Peak Hillclimb champion Rod Millen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Millen) warned that paving the road would put an end to the race.[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikes_Peak_Highway#cite_note-10) However, the race went ahead normally in 2012 and has continued ever since.

John Meachen
10-01-2017, 02:27 PM
A quick search didn't show an elapsed time for the climb.Sebastian Loeb went there for the win,not the showbiz.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
10-01-2017, 02:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OOcYm0UGdE

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
10-01-2017, 02:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y20CLumT2Sg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
10-01-2017, 02:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP6oJGiX-Ds

Jim Bow
10-01-2017, 06:30 PM
I think Climbkhana was staged in bits and pieces for the camera. Either that or they has separate crews all along the route.
Have you seen the Hoon face through London on the new TopGear?

Paul Pless
10-01-2017, 06:35 PM
Do F1 drivers have to worry about falling Hondas???


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pIKQjt-e0zY