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ishmael
09-16-2017, 07:08 AM
Over six hundred thousand dollars reportedly spent on security so this fellow could speak!?

Say what you like about Ben Shapiro, he's one of the sharper knives in the drawer.

Full speech:

https://youtu.be/aP_9cRUzqMw

Paul Pless
09-16-2017, 07:12 AM
Say what you like about Ben Shapiroyawn

Ian McColgin
09-16-2017, 07:38 AM
Shapiro participated in fabricating "Friends of Hamas" as part of his smear campaign of Chuck Hagel. One can be quite facile and clever but real intellect involves integrity, respect for and pursuit of truth. It's like the fancy that the ravings of a religious schizophrenic are brilliant. They are not. They are delusional ravings.

Brilliant people can be wrong - happens all the time. But even when wrong, brilliant people, people of real intellect, are seeking truth. Shapiro is seeking falsehood and he shamelessly lies to get there.

skuthorp
09-16-2017, 07:40 AM
"Over six hundred thousand dollars reportedly spent on security"

No wonder the place is in a mess.

ishmael
09-16-2017, 09:01 AM
I, having only caught a few of his talks on line, know next to nothing about Shapiro. Ian, do you have a citation regarding his smearing of Hegel with a creation of some false story about Hamas?

Sku,

That a major university has to put up that kind of security to defend a conservative speaker doesn't bode well for either our system of higher education or the country as a whole.

Ian McColgin
09-16-2017, 09:13 AM
The fastest way to research Shapiro is to read the Wikipedia and don't stop there - read the cited sources. You will find that there are people who claim "Friends of Hamas" is real and you will evaluate their case for yourself.

Also read things like: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/friends-of-hamas-and-andrew-breitbarts-legacy

ishmael
09-17-2017, 06:45 AM
'Brilliant people can be wrong - happens all the time. But even when wrong, brilliant people, people of real intellect, are seeking truth. Shapiro is seeking falsehood and he shamelessly lies to get there. "

OK. I read through the Wikipedia article. Pretty thin soup for such a defamatory statement, Ian.

Ian McColgin
09-17-2017, 06:49 AM
I think that just reading the Wikipedia is more like a table to contents and is pretty thin as a stand-alone. You have a right to be content with that.

Chris Coose
09-17-2017, 10:23 AM
Many people are drawn to smart talkers and snappy dressers.

LeeG
09-17-2017, 12:24 PM
Hegel?