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j2us
08-17-2017, 07:09 PM
I acquired Herreshoff Hull #1382 which, from my perspective, has decayed to a point of not being a reasonable candidate for repair or restoration. She's also odd in that practically every plank is blocked, even the sheer strake, something I haven't seen before. So what to do with the old girl?? Any ideas????

rbgarr
08-17-2017, 07:29 PM
As you might know, they were built with light planking and framing. If the keel and transom are serviceable (or even not so much) you might offer her to boat building schools sort of near you like Cape Fear http://cfcc.edu/martech/boat-building-school/ the Beaufort museums http://ncmaritimemuseums.com/, or Independence Seaport http://www.phillyseaport.org/

Otherwise Dan Shea may have someone who is looking for one to have rebuilt to sail. He's a great restorer of the type, no matter the condition
: https://www.google.com/search?q=brsitol+boat+company&oq=brsitol+boat+company&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i8i13i30k1l3.49082.52196.0.53813.13. 12.0.0.0.0.307.1356.0j5j1j1.7.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..6.7.1354...0i13i30k1.7JhLPPqqiJY

nedL
08-18-2017, 06:34 AM
Hmmm,... a genuine 12 1/2?..... no such thing as "too decayed". They are very desirable little icons and still very popular. There are those that have been 'restored' to the point that only the Herreshoff builder's plaque is original. ..... once she is gone she's gone.

Jay Greer
08-19-2017, 11:33 AM
No wooden boat is beyond repair. It just depends on the size of your dedication, patience and wallet.
We turned this-----
Jay
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/001079903521/media/23017822307/medium/1232325497/enhance

Jay Greer
08-19-2017, 11:37 AM
Into this! Jay
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/001079903521/media/23012423631/medium/1406136694/enhance

pcford
08-19-2017, 12:12 PM
Into this! Jay
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/001079903521/media/23012423631/medium/1406136694/enhance

If I recall, this boat was glued together.

Why?

Jay Greer
08-19-2017, 12:21 PM
G/flex was recommended by West System as the best glue for the project. The owner wanted an all varnished hull with no plugs showing. "Vapor" is double planked with full length African Mahogany that is glued to the frames. The glue has a built in flex factor that will never turn rock hard. This allows the hull to flex under the torque of the steam engine.
Jay

pcford
08-19-2017, 12:38 PM
G/flez was recommended by West System as the best glue for the project. The owner wanted an all varnished hull with no plugs showing. "Vapor" is double planked with full length African Mahogany that is slued to the frames. The glue has a built in flex factor that will never turn rock hard. This allows the hull to flex under the torque of the steam engine.
Jay

Jay,

It just seems strange that someone who is known for eschewing anything but the most traditional techniques, evidently endorses this restoration.

hawkeye54
08-19-2017, 01:36 PM
Into this! Jay
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/001079903521/media/23012423631/medium/1406136694/enhance

All I can say, Jay, is that this is an outstanding example of your attention to detail, and some fine brightwork finishing work.
A tip of the cap to you, sir !!

Rick

Jay Greer
08-19-2017, 02:34 PM
I cannot take credit for the actual work. This was a team projct and I was only the liaison for the project which was done by my friend and master boat builder Ed Louchard. We think the same way. So far as eschewing anything but the most traditional techniques is concerned, I have worked with and used most every method, product and material to come down the pike in the last seventy years and prefer to use approaches and products of proven longevity.
Jay

pcford
08-19-2017, 02:56 PM
I cannot take credit for the actual work. This was a team projct and I was only the liaison for the project which was done by my friend and master boat builder Ed Louchard. We think the same way. So far as eschewing anything but the most traditional techniques is concerned, I have worked with and used most every method, product and material to come down the pike in the last seventy years and prefer to use approaches and products of proven longevity.
Jay

It does appear to be beautiful work Jay. But one wonders what happens when it needs repair.

Paul G.
08-19-2017, 03:10 PM
It does appear to be beautiful work Jay. But one wonders what happens when it needs repair.

Built with epoxy, it wont need repair....

pcford
08-19-2017, 03:30 PM
Built with epoxy, it wont need repair....

Oh, that's right.

rbgarr
08-19-2017, 06:52 PM
Oh, that's right.

LOL!!

Jay Greer
08-19-2017, 07:48 PM
It does appear to be beautiful work Jay. But one wonders what happens when it needs repair.
Well I hope that wooden boats are still in vogue by the time that happens. The owner is a very dedicated and wood oriented guy who knows how to properly take care of a boat such as this.
Jay

MacSomes
08-20-2017, 09:58 AM
Just a little FYI. You can purchase a set of Herreshoff 12.5 drawings from Bristol Bronze in RI. They may be enough to kickstart a renovation.


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Jay Greer
08-20-2017, 10:10 AM
Congratulations Mac! The H12.5 is one of my favorites. Of course my H28 is a larger version of that same hull form.
LFH seemed to appreciate his father's work in the H12.5 and so adopted that hull form.
Jay