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Tom Lathrop
05-25-2017, 02:50 PM
The new science. WHO KNEW???

http://pin.it/cBppk8H

Tom Lathrop
05-25-2017, 06:03 PM
No comments? These are the funniest knucklehead pronouncements ever. Double click the link. Sailors should especially be concerned if Joe Barton is right about how our boats mess with the wind.

skuthorp
05-25-2017, 06:10 PM
What comment would be adequate, or have any effect?

I am caught between pity, concern and contempt.

Tom Lathrop
05-25-2017, 06:58 PM
What comment would be adequate, or have any effect?

I am caught between pity, concern and contempt.

You are one of the fortunate ones that don't have either if these nincompoops in your government. We do have them in positions of power and decision making that affect our lives. This is what develops from a long term attack on education and the value of truth and knowledge. It looks to get much worse unless organized grass roots opposition evolves as a real factor in our politics. Democrats have been asleep at the wheel and have let their own fringe elements pick the dance tunes for too long.

The oppressors have gotten the oppressed to dance to the tunes of the oppressors and be happy to do it. Happily walking the plank as long as they have the prescribed cap of the massa on their heads.

Garret
05-25-2017, 08:22 PM
Well of course Jesus celebrated Christmas - except he called it his birthday & it wasn't on Dec. 25th & they most likely didn't cut down a tree each year.

And anyone knows you have to be smarter to be a model than an attorney.

Finally - why the hell wasn't Obama in the oval office on 9/11? Oh wait, he hadn't even run for the senate yet, much less for president,

PeterSibley
05-25-2017, 11:36 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d2/cb/4a/d2cb4a07f1da6d71b414023a8476ab2c.jpg

Jim Bow
05-26-2017, 12:45 AM
And how do we know these people really said these things? Shouldn't there be citations of time and place?
Fake news swings both ways.

http://www.snopes.com/michelle-bachmann-solar-power-quote/

skuthorp
05-26-2017, 01:26 AM
The problem is Jim, that on their record they could beliveably have said it.

Peerie Maa
05-26-2017, 06:16 AM
And how do we know these people really said these things? Shouldn't there be citations of time and place?
Fake news swings both ways.

http://www.snopes.com/michelle-bachmann-solar-power-quote/

and
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/bartonwind.asp

(http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/bartonwind.asp)He actually said

Now, wind is Godís way of balancing heat. Wind is the way you shift heat from areas where it is hotter to areas where it is cooler. That is what wind is.
Wouldnít it be ironic if in the interest of global warming we mandated massive switches to energy, which is a finite resource, which slows the winds down, which causes the
temperature to go up? Now, I am not saying that is going to happen, Mr. Chairman, but that is definitely something on the massive scale ó I mean, it does make some sense. You stop something. You canít transfer that heat and the heat goes up. It is just something to think about.

PeterSibley
05-26-2017, 06:35 AM
http://grist.org/article/2009-04-20-house-republicans-bring/

skuthorp
05-26-2017, 06:40 AM
Well that's that then, stupid wins……… Actually malice plays a big part as well.

PeterSibley
05-26-2017, 06:50 AM
Follow the money.

Garret
05-26-2017, 07:37 AM
Follow the money.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. There's huge money to be made in renewable energy, but many of the Republican's owners are too invested in fossil fuels to "allow" investment in renewables.

The old American "can do" attitude has been replaced by "won't do unless I can make a fortune without doing much work".

Tom Lathrop
05-26-2017, 08:34 AM
I had to laugh at myself for missing Snopes on Michelle's climate rant although the Barton bit was dead on. It was so much like her, I didn't look closely enough to catch the error. There is so much denial of climate facts and green energy going around that I accepted the probable fake news.

Gerarddm
05-26-2017, 08:34 AM
I can tell you that when I was in the solar hot water business during the Carter years I was directly asked by some idjit, " If you put up all those solar things, won't you weaken the sun? "

Peerie Maa
05-26-2017, 08:44 AM
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. There's huge money to be made in renewable energy, but many of the Republican's owners are too invested in fossil fuels to "allow" investment in renewables.

The old American "can do" attitude has been replaced by "won't do unless I can make a fortune without doing much work".

Nailed it. It is easier to stifle progress than try to keep up.

Osborne Russell
05-26-2017, 08:47 AM
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. There's huge money to be made in renewable energy, but many of the Republican's owners are too invested in fossil fuels to "allow" investment in renewables.

The old American "can do" attitude has been replaced by "won't do unless I can make a fortune without doing much work".

Follow the power, I guess you could say. Money's no good if you're not connected.

Modern Republicans are Lysenkoists, now there's a word. I guess Bachmannism won't do. Point is, this isn't the first time this game has been run. Pay the shills, kill the scientists.


Lysenkoism . . . was a political campaign against genetics and science-based agriculture conducted by Trofim Lysenko, his followers and Soviet authorities. Lysenko served as the director of the Soviet Union's Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences.

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The term Lysenkoism can also be used metaphorically to describe the manipulation or distortion of the scientific process as a way to reach a predetermined conclusion as dictated by an ideological bias, often related to social or political objectives.

The pseudo-scientific ideas of Lysenkoism built on Lamarckian concepts of the heritability of acquired characteristics. Lysenko's theory rejected Mendelian inheritance and the concept of the "gene"; it departed from Darwinian evolutionary theory by rejecting natural selection. Proponents falsely claimed to have discovered, among many other things, that rye could transform into wheat and wheat into barley, that weeds could spontaneously transmute into food grains, and that "natural cooperation" was observed in nature as opposed to "natural selection". Lysenkoism promised extraordinary advances in breeding and in agriculture that never came about.

Joseph Stalin supported the campaign. More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were sent to prison, fired, or executed as part of a campaign instigated by Lysenko to suppress his scientific opponents. The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was sent to prison and died there, while scientific research in the field of genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953. Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines was also negatively affected or banned.

-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Truly, this stuff is for mofo's that are thinking big, beyond mere money.