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S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 01:19 PM
Self explanatory!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-vbcfeWsAExUxe.jpg

Peerie Maa
05-01-2017, 01:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

oznabrag
05-01-2017, 01:41 PM
HRFJOAS.

All hail the Moron King.

Keith Wilson
05-01-2017, 01:44 PM
Andrew Jackson, of course, died in 1845. (And if there's anyone here who knows as little about it as the current president, that was fifteen years before the US Civil War started.)

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 01:51 PM
Andrew Jackson, of course, died in 1845. (And if there's anyone here who knows as little about it as the current president, that was fifteen years before the US Civil War started.)
Jackson's presidency was between 1828-36 and actually 25 yrs before the civil war

paulf
05-01-2017, 01:59 PM
Jackson's presidency was between 1828-36 and actually 25 yrs before the civil war

I'm sure he (Trump) knows that Lincoln was president during the Civil war, but the way he talks is so disjointed that you can't tell when one thought ends and another begins, sort of stream of unconsciousness.

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 02:01 PM
I'm sure he (Trump) knows that Lincoln was president during the Civil war, but the way he talks is so disjointed that you can't tell when one thought ends and another begins, sort of stream of unconsciousness.You really think so? I have my doubts about that.

paulf
05-01-2017, 02:05 PM
You really think so? I have my doubts about that.


I just think he spouts out crap without fully engaging his punkin. But perhaps you are right SV...he does say a multitude of incoherent stuff.

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 02:12 PM
I just think he spouts out crap without fully engaging his punkin. But perhaps you are right SV...he does say a multitude of incoherent stuff.He has said he doesn't read books, has never read a biography of any president ever. If he's being honest HAHAHA then I have to think he knows very little about any of the previous 44 or 43 because one was president twice with someone else term in between. Steven Grover Cleveland.

isla
05-01-2017, 02:40 PM
So I, a humble Brit, can honestly claim that I know more about the Civil War than a POTUS. I never thought a time would come when I would be able to say that. :D

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 02:44 PM
Do you think certain Woodenboat Forum members lapped up what he said though? lapped up as if it were koolaide?

Keith Wilson
05-01-2017, 02:45 PM
I don't think he was imagining that Jackson was president when the Civil War started, but that had he been he would have handled it better. Or maybe not; he's so goddamned incoherent, you can't tell what he actually means. And the idea that 'People don't ask that question' about the causes of the Civil War and how it could have been avoided?? WTF?!? What else have historians of the period been doing for the last 150 years??? Does this guy have an IQ above room temperature??

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 02:48 PM
I don't think he was imagining that Jackson was president when the Civil War started, but that had he been he would have handled it better. Or maybe not; he's so goddamned incoherent, you can't tell what he actually means. And the idea that 'People don't ask that question' about the causes of the Civil War and how it could have been avoided?? WTF?!? What else have historians of the period been doing for the last 150 years??? Does this guy have an IQ above room temperature??No, it's obvious, kinda, that it wasn't. However, the rest of the passage is BS.

Glen Longino
05-01-2017, 02:50 PM
Trump is too ignorant to even imagine how ignorant he is, much like his supporters.
One of his supporters will be along to prove my point in 9-8-7-6....

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 02:51 PM
causes of the civil war? simple, an oppressive federal govt trampling on state's rights. . .;)

five pages at least. . .


I don't think he was imagining that Jackson was president when the Civil War started, but that had he been he would have handled it better. Or maybe not; he's so goddamned incoherent, you can't tell what he actually means. And the idea that 'People don't ask that question' about the causes of the Civil War and how it could have been avoided?? WTF?!? What else have historians of the period been doing for the last 150 years??? Does this guy have an IQ above room temperature??

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 02:52 PM
causes of the civil war? simple, an oppressive federal govt trampling on state's rights. . .;)

five pages at least. . .Isn't that what he's doing with Sanctuary cities?

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 02:53 PM
maybe eight pages given the new forum format

Keith Wilson
05-01-2017, 02:53 PM
You are a Very Bad Man. :D Maybe I can head it off. (source (http://www.civil-war.net/pages/mississippi_declaration.asp))


A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union

In the momentous step, which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

The hostility to this institution commenced before the adoption of the Constitution, and was manifested in the well-known Ordinance of 1787, in regard to the Northwestern Territory.

The feeling increased, until, in 1819-20, it deprived the South of more than half the vast territory acquired from France.
The same hostility dismembered Texas and seized upon all the territory acquired from Mexico.

It has grown until it denies the right of property in slaves, and refuses protection to that right on the high seas, in the Territories, and wherever the government of the United States had jurisdiction.

It refuses the admission of new slave States into the Union, and seeks to extinguish it by confining it within its present limits, denying the power of expansion.

It tramples the original equality of the South under foot.

It has nullified the Fugitive Slave Law in almost every free State in the Union, and has utterly broken the compact, which our fathers pledged their faith to maintain.

It advocates negro equality, socially and politically, and promotes insurrection and incendiarism in our midst.

It has enlisted its press, its pulpit and its schools against us, until the whole popular mind of the North is excited and inflamed with prejudice.

It has made combinations and formed associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation in the States and wherever else slavery exists.

It seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.

It has invaded a State, and invested with the honors of martyrdom the wretch whose purpose was to apply flames to our dwellings, and the weapons of destruction to our lives.

It has broken every compact into which it has entered for our security.

It has given indubitable evidence of its design to ruin our agriculture, to prostrate our industrial pursuits and to destroy our social system.
It knows no relenting or hesitation in its purposes; it stops not in its march of aggression, and leaves us no room to hope for cessation or for pause.

It has recently obtained control of the Government, by the prosecution of its unhallowed schemes, and destroyed the last expectation of living together in friendship and brotherhood.

Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.

Our decision is made. We follow their footsteps. We embrace the alternative of separation; and for the reasons here stated, we resolve to maintain our rights with the full consciousness of the justice of our course, and the undoubting belief of our ability to maintain it.

Osborne Russell
05-01-2017, 02:54 PM
So I, a humble Brit, can honestly claim that I know more about the Civil War than a POTUS. I never thought a time would come when I would be able to say that. :D

Stick around, show's just begun.

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 02:55 PM
Ah good, we haven't had a Civil War thread in ummm, ages! I wonder if someone has discovered something new?

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 02:56 PM
You are a Very Bad Man. :D

i actually do feel a little bad about it, cause this topic usually gets oznabrag completely bent out of shape and i don't want to see him do anything to approach getting banded, again. . .

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 03:00 PM
i actually do feel a little bad about it, cause this topic usually gets oznabrag completely bent out of shape and i don't want to see him do anything to approach getting banded, again. . .Paul, I'll keep some here within reach. As I don't know how big Oznabrag's leg is, I'll give you an assortment of them to choose from. I used the largest here myself.

https://nationalband.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/lockonbands.jpg (https://nationalband.com/products/lock-on-aluminum-bird-bands/)

Keith Wilson
05-01-2017, 03:20 PM
He might be a scrawny little dude, but I'm pretty sure his leg's bigger than 7/8". ;)

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 03:24 PM
He might be a scrawny little dude, but I'm pretty sure his leg's bigger than 7/8". ;)Well, what I sed them on had a six foot wingspread and are about 2' and a bit high.

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 03:28 PM
He might be a scrawny little dude, but I'm pretty sure his leg's bigger than 7/8". ;)
I guess we could settle for an ear tag.

Keith Wilson
05-01-2017, 03:30 PM
Branding might be a bit extreme, you think?

Gerarddm
05-01-2017, 03:35 PM
Our current president literally asked whether everybody knew Lincoln was a Republican.

You can't make this stuff up.

oznabrag
05-01-2017, 03:53 PM
i actually do feel a little bad about it, cause this topic usually gets oznabrag completely bent out of shape and i don't want to see him do anything to approach getting banded, again. . .

Nah.

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 03:54 PM
Our current president literally asked whether everybody knew Lincoln was a Republican.

You can't make this stuff up.He asked that at one of his rallies, what do you expect?

johnw
05-01-2017, 04:05 PM
Gotta love the way Trump projects his ignorance on everyone else. He doesn't know something, so no one does.

isla
05-01-2017, 04:05 PM
Trump didn't realize that American history was so complicated :rolleyes:

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 04:06 PM
Trump didn't realize that American history was so complicated :rolleyes:And that so much has happened!And Jackson should have made a deal between the slave and free states when he had a chance between 1828 and 1836.

isla
05-01-2017, 04:09 PM
And that so much has happened!

He probably doesn't know why people refer to him as 45 |;)

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 04:10 PM
He probably doesn't know why people refer to him as 45 |;)His IQ? What would be really confusing if it was 44. Cleveland was one president who served 2 nonconsecutive terms so we've really only had 44. That concept would be mind blowing to the Donald.

isla
05-01-2017, 04:15 PM
His IQ? What would be really confusing if it was 44. Cleveland was one president who served 2 nonconsecutive terms so we've really only had 44. That concept would be mind blowing to the Donald.

Close enough, but I figured he was in the low 70s :d

skuthorp
05-01-2017, 04:16 PM
I think you underestimate him and his capacity to do permanent damage to the fabric of the country.

Keith Wilson
05-01-2017, 04:17 PM
I don't think Mr Trump is stupid. Ignorant, definitely. Suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, almost certainly.

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 04:18 PM
Close enough, but I figured he was in the low 70s :dI suspect 70 is as low as it can go. Anything less is a seriously handicapped individual who can't literally dress themselves. Trump can at least do that.

isla
05-01-2017, 04:20 PM
I suspect 70 is as low as it can go. Anything less is a seriously handicapped individual who can't literally dress themselves. Trump can at least do that.

Yeah, but Ivanka is there to tie his shoelaces |;)

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 04:24 PM
Yeah, but Ivanka is there to tie his shoelaces |;)If that's all she does!:(

delecta
05-01-2017, 04:34 PM
Do you think certain Woodenboat Forum members lapped up what he said though? lapped up as if it were koolaide?

Yup, all that have posted to this thread before mine of course :)

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 04:36 PM
Yup, all that have posted to this thread before mine of course :)Aren't you supposed to be defending him?

John of Phoenix
05-01-2017, 05:07 PM
Blithering nonsense about Andrew Jackson's thoughts concerning the Civil War, his having died 15 years before the fact, is NOT the behavior of a Normal Person.

Tom Montgomery
05-01-2017, 05:08 PM
He [Andrew Jackson] was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said "There's no reason for this."Andrew Jackson had been dead and buried for 15 years before the commencement of The War of the Rebellion.

Donald Trump is a fabulist. And I suspect he often believes his own bs. And that is frightening given his position.

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 05:09 PM
Blithering nonsense about Andrew Jackson's thoughts concerning the Civil War, his having died 15 years before the fact, is NOT the behavior of a Normal Person.


celebration of stupid?

Glen Longino
05-01-2017, 05:12 PM
Yup, all that have posted to this thread before mine of course :)

...3-2-1-0 :):)

Paul Pless
05-01-2017, 05:15 PM
...3-2-1-0 :):)


Gong!!!

S.V. Airlie
05-01-2017, 05:16 PM
Andrew Jackson had been dead and buried for 15 years before the commencement of The War of the Rebellion.

Donald Trump is a fabulist. And I suspect he often believes his own bs. And that is frightening given his position.More importantly, he wass president between 1828 and 36 when he could have done something about the Civil War.

ahp
05-01-2017, 06:22 PM
We live in interesting times. Gawd help us all.

johnw
05-01-2017, 06:36 PM
Close enough, but I figured he was in the low 70s :d

It's quite possible he's suffering from some sort of cognitive decline, which would be tragic and dangerous rather than funny. It's the sort of thing that would only be funny in a comedy film.

Ted Hoppe
05-01-2017, 07:20 PM
https://youtu.be/tldGgGFe194

skuthorp
05-01-2017, 07:54 PM
It's quite possible he's suffering from some sort of cognitive decline, which would be tragic and dangerous rather than funny. It's the sort of thing that would only be funny in a comedy film.
If that's the case then he is open to manipulation by unelected persons and organisations, and the electoral process completely subverted. Being CinC it raises other questions.

Old Dryfoot
05-01-2017, 07:56 PM
When he's done in the White House I have a great new reality show idea for him. "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader: The Presidential Edition"

BrianY
05-01-2017, 09:04 PM
When he's done in the White House I have a great new reality show idea for him. "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader: The Presidential Edition"

Nope, too challenging. Make it "Are You Smarter than a 4th Grader?" and it might be somewhat even

CK 17
05-01-2017, 09:48 PM
Why Andrew Jackson and why now? Did he find a coffee table book on the guy somewhere in the White House?

Old Dryfoot
05-01-2017, 09:54 PM
^ Still too many words. Did O-Pee-Chee make a trading card series?

isla
05-02-2017, 04:47 AM
Why Andrew Jackson and why now? Did he find a coffee table book on the guy somewhere in the White House?

This whole thing is even more disturbing when you know that only six weeks ago Trump celebrated Andrew Jackson's 250th birthday by visiting the Jackson Museum in Tennessee. You would think he would have learned something.

On Wednesday, he traveled to Tennessee to commemorate the 250th birthday of the seventh president, Andrew Jackson, and toured Jackson’s plantation, which is known as the Hermitage.

“Inspirational visit, I have to tell you. I’m a fan,” Trump said outside Old Hickory’s Greek Revival-style mansion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cites-andrew-jackson-as-his-hero--and-a-reflection-of-himself/2017/03/15/4da8dc8c-0995-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html

Daniel Noyes
05-02-2017, 04:49 AM
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skuthorp
05-02-2017, 05:00 AM
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