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Vince Brennan
03-09-2017, 12:29 PM
On the "Joe, help me out here!" thread we beat one another up (well, gently and with tolerance...) (In THIS day and age? Whoodathunkit??) about our favorite hand meal, the Cheese Steak and their Construction / Provenance / Location / Additions.

I think, (Shut UP, Grebe!) therefore, that we should devote equal (if no more) time to the other major player in the World Of Fattening and Wonderful Food, the lowly (or highly in Colorado) Hoagie. I'm from Philly, so to me it's a hoagie.

Constructed on the base of one of those wonderful Italian rolls (Amoroso's, of course), 'that is the ONLY common denominator for this wonderfully American abberation. On the Right Coast, it's usually an "Italian" with provolone slices, shredded lettuce, two or three kinds of sliced hard salami, maybe sliced ham, sliced tomato, oregano, and a choice of olive (you hope!) oil, Mayo (usually 'salad dressing'...eccch!), and a little salt and pepper. Hot peppers or sweet peppers are ordered extra.

Strangely, despite my paens of praise for D'Allesandro's cheese steaks, the best hoagies in Philly are either at Fiesta II (next block north on Henry Ave from D'Allesandro's) or out in Norristown at Primo's. If I'm in the area, I'll get a Primo's before any other, but Fiesta II is so close a second that it's not worth the twelve minute drive out there. (I drive FAST.)

I'm sure that the Left Coast puts guacamole or other oddball (to me) ingredients on their sandwiches, but for me, the basic building blocks (with oil, please) are what I dream of when I dream of hoagies.

The floor is open for excoriation, dissention and praise for your own local cookeries!

Jim Bow
03-09-2017, 12:32 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6064/6052771807_3f667028c1_b.jpg

CWSmith
03-09-2017, 12:39 PM
Subway spicy Italian with lots of veggies and Chipotle sauce

xflow7
03-09-2017, 12:51 PM
On the "Joe, help me out here!" thread we beat one another up (well, gently and with tolerance...) (In THIS day and age? Whoodathunkit??) about our favorite hand meal, the Cheese Steak and their Construction / Provenance / Location / Additions.

I think, (Shut UP, Grebe!) therefore, that we should devote equal (if no more) time to the other major player in the World Of Fattening and Wonderful Food, the lowly (or highly in Colorado) Hoagie. I'm from Philly, so to me it's a hoagie.

Constructed on the base of one of those wonderful Italian rolls (Amoroso's, of course), 'that is the ONLY common denominator for this wonderfully American abberation. On the Right Coast, it's usually an "Italian" with provolone slices, shredded lettuce, two or three kinds of sliced hard salami, maybe sliced ham, sliced tomato, oregano, and a choice of olive (you hope!) oil, Mayo (usually 'salad dressing'...eccch!), and a little salt and pepper. Hot peppers or sweet peppers are ordered extra.

Strangely, despite my paens of praise for D'Allesandro's cheese steaks, the best hoagies in Philly are either at Fiesta II (next block north on Henry Ave from D'Allesandro's) or out in Norristown at Primo's. If I'm in the area, I'll get a Primo's before any other, but Fiesta II is so close a second that it's not worth the twelve minute drive out there. (I drive FAST.)

I'm sure that the Left Coast puts guacamole or other oddball (to me) ingredients on their sandwiches, but for me, the basic building blocks (with oil, please) are what I dream of when I dream of hoagies.

The floor is open for excoriation, dissention and praise for your own local cookeries!

There's a cheesesteak thread?! I missed that.

I grew up eating a ridiculous number of italian hoagies from Wawa. Then I moved away from Philly and didn't have another Wawa hoagie until 2015 when I was plesently surprised to find Wawa has reached as far south as DC area.

Dave

jack grebe
03-09-2017, 12:57 PM
Something else I can't get down here........ Bummer.

I think the real discussion should be about the depth of the meat, type of meat,
and whether the oregano goes on top or on the roll with the oil and vinegar....


AND NO, A REAL HOAGIE DOESN'T GET MAYO EITHER.........



Sorry Vince, couldn't help myself........

jack grebe
03-09-2017, 12:59 PM
There's a cheesesteak thread?! I missed that.

I grew up eating a ridiculous number of italian hoagies from Wawa. Then I moved away from Philly and didn't have another Wawa hoagie until 2015 when I was presently surprised to find Wawa has reached as far south as DC area.

Dave

I have news for you, Wawa is in Florida too......REAL COFFEE.....WEEEEEEEEEE

hawkeye54
03-09-2017, 12:59 PM
Vince, I haven't been back to Philadelphia since the Bicentennial , I lived in the Northeast, and really liked ' Lee's hoagies' -
Are they still up there, and if so, how would you rate them


'
Rick

Norman Bernstein
03-09-2017, 01:04 PM
I just don't have the time, at lunchtime, to spend looking for good lunch solutions... most of the time, it ends up being fast food, because, well... it's fast.

The healthiest lunch I eat is often when I go to the nearby supermarket, and indulge in their salad bar... lots of fresh veggies, some grilled chicken strips for protein, and maybe some honey-mustard dressing. It's actuality not cheap, though... a generous portion costs $9 or more.

Occasionally, it will be a fast food hamburger... but not the 'premium' versions. Wendy's or Burger King offer 'Jr.' versions which are less drippy and gooey, and are a lot cheaper.

Today: Dunkin' Donuts has brought back one of their best 'special' items: a burrito with egg, sausage, rice, beans, etc... tasty, probably not nearly as unhealthy as many other choices. They had it, back last summer, but only for a few weeks.... they recently brought it back.

Sometimes: soup and sandwich. I'm a big fan of soup, make a really good tomato soup as well as a vegetable soup myself, but never remember to bring from home.

Breakaway
03-09-2017, 01:51 PM
Pastrami on white bread with mayo.... :d
( Click through all the clips)

https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/db363731-e4da-45fb-9aa9-1007d71d5124


https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/db363731-e4da-45fb-9aa9-1007d71d5124


Kevin

Tom Wilkinson
03-09-2017, 02:04 PM
Cherry Valley deli. http://www.cherryvalleydeli.net/#!about
We went there several times in my two month stay in NY. Over 200 heroes to choose from.

Dave Lesser
03-09-2017, 02:16 PM
In Salt Lake City, it's Moochie's Meatballs and More (http://www.moochiesmeatballs.com/)

Better pastrami than NYC
Better cheese steak than Philly
Better meatballs than Italy
Better Italian Sub than anywhere

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3676/33345571895_03153bd678_b.jpg

Norman Bernstein
03-09-2017, 02:19 PM
This might be a very limited or not-well-known New England tradition... although perhaps other regions know of it, as well.

Back in my college days, I lived at 407 Marlboro Street, in Boston, during my sophomore year. In those days, four of us guys shared a two bedroom apartment, for $270/mo.... nowadays, that property is a million dollar condo.

Around the corner, was a sub shop called 'The Hawk Shop'.... so-named, because one of the silent owners of the place was Ken Harrelson, known as 'The Hawk', and a first baseman or outfielder for the Athletics, the Senators, the Indians, and briefly (1967-69) for the Red Sox. The Hawk Shops' signature sandwich was 'the Hawk Bomb', which was shaved steak, peppers, onions, mushrooms, cheese, and interestingly, salami. I ate MANY of those, during that school year, since our kitchen was too disgusting to cook in :)

Nowadays, there is a small regional chain of sub shops in the eastern MA and RI area called 'D'Angelos', which features the closest thing to a cheesesteak to be found in these parts: steak, onions, cheese, and optionally, peppers, and mushrooms. They also have a 'steak bomb', which is the same thing, with the addition of the salami.

Now, I never saw salami added to what is more or less a cheesesteak sub, aside from at the Hawk Shop in my college days, or at D'Angelo's nowadays.....

...I wonder if the same thing (a steak and cheese sub with salami) is also known as a 'bomb', elsewhere.

Tom Wilkinson
03-09-2017, 04:11 PM
Kelly's Roast Beef in Revere, MA
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g41785-d323179-Reviews-Kelly_s_Roast_Beef-Revere_Massachusetts.html

Tom Wilkinson
03-09-2017, 04:13 PM
Nicks, Grecian Gyro on Virginia ave in Hapeville, GA, right by the airport.

http://www.greciangyro.com/

Jimmy W
03-09-2017, 04:18 PM
Nicks, Grecian Gyro on Virginia ave in Hapeville, GA, right by the airport.

http://www.greciangyro.com/

Johnny's across the street has some pretty good subs also and on the other side, Pit Boss has pretty good BBQ sandwiches.

Peerie Maa
03-09-2017, 04:24 PM
This thread makes me think of Doner Kebab.
https://www.desiblitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/doner-kebab-pitta.jpg
With a chilli sauce.

Canoez
03-09-2017, 04:24 PM
Nardelli's (http://www.nardellis.com/home.html). Yum.

Rich Jones
03-09-2017, 04:25 PM
None for me, thanks. I'm on a draconian diet and can't eat more then 3 oz. of anything for lunch. I can eat all the fruit and veggies I want, but I don't really care for fruit and veggies. So, I'll take an apple, orange, lettuce and tomato hero, please. Just hold the hero....
But, I'm enjoying reading what everyone else is having.

Canoez
03-09-2017, 04:26 PM
None for me, thanks. I'm on a draconian diet and can't eat more then 3 oz. of anything for lunch. I can eat all the fruit and veggies I want, but I don't really care for fruit and veggies. So, I'll take an apple, orange, lettuce and tomato hero, please. Just hold the hero....
But, I'm enjoying reading what everyone else is having.

3 oz block of Cabot Cheddar.

seanz
03-09-2017, 04:27 PM
Falafel kebab.

Breakaway
03-09-2017, 04:36 PM
That'd be, "hero," here in New York, Mister!

An Italian is, salami, cappicola, provolone, lettuce, tomato, pepperoncini, oil, vinegar, maybe a dash of red pepper or garlic powder and on a fresh hero roll. ( What you describe as a torpedo/ hoagie roll). The crust is crisp, and thin. The bread is not too doughy.

Of course, a hero sandwich is any sandwich on a hero roll, not just an Italian style. Ham n cheese can be a hero. Tuna salad can be a hero. Bologna can be a hero.

While I like eating an Italian Hero, one of my favorites is a combination of roast beef, turkey, swiss, bacon, lettuce, and roasted peppers with a dusting of mayo and sprinkling of black pepper. ( "pep-uh," to you, Bub :d)

Kevin

Joe (SoCal)
03-09-2017, 04:48 PM
We just had lunch at the Shake Shack on the PCH Newport Coast. AMAZING rare THE AHI BURGER Ahi Steak seared rare with Asian Slaw and housemade Sriracha Mayo. Served on a Wheat Bun.
https://www.rubys.com/locations/newport-coast-shake-shack/

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947517_10209094009440839_2765900407865016272_n.j pg?oh=ca8bce3b916e2efebddc1010966c8f60&oe=596E8857

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15578860_10209493266262010_3011234549221970539_n.j pg?oh=590962c1adeea65c57d12b6c1d842901&oe=592F6A79

Its our go to place :D

Jim Bow
03-09-2017, 04:58 PM
Israeli meatball sandwich!!!!!!! Key West!
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/07/30/1d/a4/mam-s-best-food.jpg

Rich Jones
03-09-2017, 05:00 PM
That'd be, "hero," here in New York, Mister!

An Italian is, salami, cappicola, provolone, lettuce, tomato, pepperoncini, oil, vinegar, maybe a dash of red pepper or garlic powder and on a fresh hero roll. ( What you describe as a torpedo/ hoagie roll). The crust is crisp, and thin. The bread is not too doughy.

Of course, a hero sandwich is any sandwich on a hero roll, not just an Italian style. Ham n cheese can be a hero. Tuna salad can be a hero. Bologna can be a hero.

While I like eating an Italian Hero, one of my favorites is a combination of roast beef, turkey, swiss, bacon, lettuce, and roasted peppers with a dusting of mayo and sprinkling of black pepper. ( "pep-uh," to you, Bub :d)

Kevin I'd kill for that sandwich right now...

bobbys
03-09-2017, 05:11 PM
I live in a tourist town, plenty of places with clam chowder from a bag, we have a subway, taco time, macdonalds ,KFC,etc.

in Astoria Finns serve lutefisk and some places they think they have pizza..

Seafood is the best in the country but not a one great sandwich shop..

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Astoria has a great fish and chips place , it's cooked on a old boat parked..

There are other ones but they cannot do it right.

I would be happy with just a Talyor ham and egg on a hard roll.

No one here ever heard of it.

Vince Brennan
03-09-2017, 08:56 PM
Vince, I haven't been back to Philadelphia since the Bicentennial , I lived in the Northeast, and really liked ' Lee's hoagies' -
Are they still up there, and if so, how would you rate them


'
RickStill there on 54th street as well as a branch in (where else? ) Roxborough! Excellent hoagies, but Fiesta still rules (IMHO).

elf
03-09-2017, 09:19 PM
Fried oyster plate. Subs are OK if you can't get anything fresh fishy. But if I have to do a subby thing, I'll take a calzone any time.

Around here there is a great market in West Dennis called Peterson's and Goglia's italian market in Warren/Bristol, RI.

I don't much care for hot subs, really like to specify my own mix of corned beef and smoked turkey, dill havarti, mayo, good honey mustard, lettuce, chopped onion, fresh diced sweet green or red pepper, no tomato. Dill pickle on the side.

But then that mix would be just as good on a dark rye with seeds.

elf
03-09-2017, 09:23 PM
Kelly's Roast Beef in Revere, MA
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g41785-d323179-Reviews-Kelly_s_Roast_Beef-Revere_Massachusetts.html
Kelly's for fish, not meat.

Ralphie Boy
03-09-2017, 10:35 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6064/6052771807_3f667028c1_b.jpg
Hey Jim, what's that item called the "Coney Island" snack? Just curious.

Ralphie Boy
03-09-2017, 10:39 PM
Joe, the a Shake Shack is great, there's also a restaurant there down at the beach that is fun. If you're lucky and win the "lottery" you can rent the houses there at Crystal Cove.

also, there is a chain locally call d the Habit which has a great Tuna Steak Sandwich. - Ralphie