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  • Dave Lesser
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 2477

    Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

    The bold sentence is where I threw up in my mouth a little bit:

    Donald Trump’s Obsession With Applause
    By Anna North
    March 1, 2017
    NY Times


    It’s no secret that President Trump is obsessed with his own popularity, as measured by polls, ratings and Time magazine covers. But last night, the president revealed that this obsession goes even deeper than his constant tweets about poll numbers would suggest.

    During his address to Congress on Tuesday night, Mr. Trump paid tribute to Chief Petty Officer William (Ryan) Owens, a Navy SEAL who was killed during a raid in Yemen in January. “Ryan laid down his life for his friends, for his country and for our freedom,” he said. “We will never forget him.”

    When the audience gave Carryn Owens, Chief Owens’s widow, a standing ovation, Mr. Trump added, “Ryan is looking down right now, you know that, and he’s very happy, because I think he just broke a record.”

    He was referring, presumably, to the length of the applause. Mr. Trump has been praised in some quarters for Tuesday’s address, during which he took a more conciliatory tone than he has in recent public appearances. But his comment about Chief Owens showed that even if his language changes slightly, his fundamental outlook stays the same.

    In fact, the comment offered a useful peek into the president’s psyche: When he imagines a deceased veteran gazing down from heaven at his widow, the president and the assembled Congress, he sees that veteran measuring the length of his own ovation, and patting himself on the back for breaking a record. In other words, when asked to take the perspective of someone who has “laid down his life for his friends, for his country, and for our freedom,” Mr. Trump assumes that what would gratify such a person is the same thing that gratifies him: adulation.

    The fact that Mr. Trump engaged in this little reverie, a rare unscripted moment during Tuesday’s address, is revealing. The president is capable of doing presidential things, like paying tribute to the memory of a service member killed in the line of duty. He is even capable of using the language of religion — a language that is relatively new to him — to memorialize the deceased. “As the Bible teaches us,” he said, “there is no greater act of love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”

    But when he goes off-script, when he speaks from the heart, as it were, he reverts to what he knows: the language of popularity, ratings and records. His use of that language with respect to Chief Owens shows it to be not merely an obsession, but an entire worldview. Not only is Mr. Trump motivated by popularity in the barest, most numerical sense — he believes everyone is.

    The full consequences of this worldview, complicated as they are by Mr. Trump’s incuriosity and facility for playing on American xenophobia, may not become clear for some time. But Americans would do well to take Tuesday’s address not as a change of course for the president but as yet another example of one of his most entrenched traits: his willingness to say whatever he needs to say to get an audience to like him.

    Despite his frequent claims that he delivers unvarnished truth without regard to the reaction, he cares so much about what people think of him that he may not be able to imagine caring about anything else.
    One of the great things about this forum is that we don't all have to accumulate the same scar tissue.
    AJ Zimm

  • TomF
    Recalcitrant Heretic
    • Jun 2003
    • 51025

    #2
    Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

    A useful perspective. Thanks.
    If I use the word "God," I sure don't mean an old man in the sky who just loves the occasional goat sacrifice. - Anne Lamott

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    • Glen Longino
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 28863

      #3
      Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

      Trump is an amalgam of Elmer Gantry, Adolph Hitler, Satan, and P.T. Barnum.
      Believe me, believe me!
      oops PS: I left out bbbssss!
      Last edited by Glen Longino; 03-01-2017, 08:02 PM.

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      • Dave Lesser
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2004
        • 2477

        #4
        Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

        Among Trump's myriad character defects, I believe that this one has the potential to be the most dangerous. His pursuit of adoration on the world stage, without regard to the consequences for others, is the hallmark of a sociopath. In his only departure from his scripted remarks, his true nature was exposed.
        One of the great things about this forum is that we don't all have to accumulate the same scar tissue.
        AJ Zimm

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        • LeeG
          Senior Member
          • May 2002
          • 73006

          #5
          Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

          Vomitus

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          • Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
            I fix stuff.
            • Feb 2007
            • 10222

            #6
            Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

            Originally posted by Glen Longino
            Trump is an amalgam of Elmer Gantry, Adolph Hitler, Satan, and P.T. Barnum.
            Believe me, believe me!
            oops PS: I left out bbbssss!
            And "Lonesome" Rhodes (A Face in the Crowd, 1957).
            sigpic When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave.

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            • Glen Longino
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 28863

              #7
              Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

              I googled Lonesome Rhodes and got "Lonesome Rhodes Donald Trump"! Really, believe me!
              I had forgotten about that maniac!

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              • Glen Longino
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 28863

                #8
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                • Glen Longino
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 28863

                  #9
                  Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                  Sorry for the thread drift, Dave!

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                  • CK 17
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9374

                    #10
                    Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                    Has anyone noticed he applauds himself. Watch when he walks on any stage, he's clapping like mad. Who does that? He's mental.

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                    • JayInOz
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 8131

                      #11
                      Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                      I think I heard on the news that during his speech he stopped to enjoy the applause about 90 times- he and the North Korean should get together and have a clap off. JayInOz

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                      • Gerarddm
                        #RESIST
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 32546

                        #12
                        Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                        SO insecure, jeesh.
                        Gerard>
                        Albuquerque, NM

                        Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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                        • Glen Longino
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 28863

                          #13
                          Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                          I suspect the FBI is working as we speak and around the clock building cases against the President and members of his band of marauders.
                          I suspect there is so much evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors that Herr Drumpf will not last 100 days.

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                          • skuthorp
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 73700

                            #14
                            Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                            I suspect that even if he's guilty as all get out nothing will be done.

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                            • Gerarddm
                              #RESIST
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 32546

                              #15
                              Re: Donald Trump's Obsession with Applause

                              ^ Bingo. As long as there are Republican majorities in Congress.

                              It's going to have to be a 25th Amendment removal, i.e. a coup.
                              Gerard>
                              Albuquerque, NM

                              Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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