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Gerarddm
01-29-2017, 07:23 PM
As just seen elsewhere:

Quote:

If you claim to be a Christian and you are not outraged over Trump's treatment of immigrants, you are a hypocrite.

Source: Uh, the Bible

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as your self, for you were foreigners in Egypt. ( Leviticus 19:33-34 ) "

Unquote.

CWSmith
01-29-2017, 07:29 PM
I'm no expert on Islam, but I think you will find that the Quran says much the same thing.

lupussonic
01-29-2017, 07:29 PM
Thus quod the Gerard.

Whats all the fuss about church and state? :d

A house divided cannot stand.

Paul Pless
01-29-2017, 07:41 PM
Leviticus? Seriously man that **** don't count that's the Hebrew part of the Bible. . .

George Jung
01-29-2017, 07:46 PM
How about the Pope? Not current enough?

http://usuncut.com/news/pope-francis-cannot-reject-refugees-call-christian/

Daniel Noyes
01-29-2017, 07:46 PM
As just seen elsewhere:

Quote:

If you claim to be a Christian and you are not outraged over Trump's treatment of immigrants, you at a hypocrite.

Source: Uh, the Bible

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as your self, for you were foreigners in Egypt. ( Leviticus 19:33-34 ) "

Unquote.

Ohhh dont stop there Gerarddm!!! Leviticus is chock full of EXCELLENT passages that ALL Americans should live by... Care to continue reading??? ;)

Norman Bernstein
01-29-2017, 08:04 PM
How about the Pope? Not current enough?

http://usuncut.com/news/pope-francis-cannot-reject-refugees-call-christian/

The Trumpistas must be a different kind of 'Christian', I guess. I'm not a Christian, but what the Pope had to say sure sounded like what I thought Christianity was all about.

Maybe I was wrong.

George Jung
01-29-2017, 08:23 PM
Trumpista's are still fixated on that 'Prosperity Gospel'.... having a difficult time finding it... must be in the Really Old Testament.

Daniel Noyes
01-29-2017, 08:33 PM
these protesters are angry Hillary supporters, they are NOT trying to help... this is Partisan Political attack on Trumpy, it has nothing to do with people suffering in the world.

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16388313_1346009102086554_1545591515608110311_n.jp g?oh=c68ab21cc4cb04f5760a28d1e755327d&oe=59125926 (https://www.facebook.com/TheCSConservative/photos/a.572477586106380.1073741829.572064949480977/1346009102086554/?type=3)

CWSmith
01-29-2017, 08:34 PM
Trumpista's are still fixated on that 'Prosperity Gospel'....

That whole concept is so monstrously offensive. It's hard to understand how such a perversion of Christian teaching could have occurred.

Steve McMahon
01-29-2017, 08:54 PM
When Obama was elected the far right hard core evangelical Christians (aka Graham and Co.) were hinting strongly that he may be the antichrist...

Steve McMahon
01-29-2017, 08:58 PM
these protesters are angry Hillary supporters, they are NOT trying to help... this is Partisan Political attack on Trumpy, it has nothing to do with people suffering in the world.

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16388313_1346009102086554_1545591515608110311_n.jp g?oh=c68ab21cc4cb04f5760a28d1e755327d&oe=59125926 (https://www.facebook.com/TheCSConservative/photos/a.572477586106380.1073741829.572064949480977/1346009102086554/?type=3)

Yes, I see the problem. Trump hasn't banned travel from countries with ties to terrorism against the US. He banned travel from predominately Muslim (that's a religion btw) populated countries that have no recent ties to terrorism against the US.

Paul Pless
01-29-2017, 09:00 PM
Yes, I see the problem. Trump hasn't banned travel from countries with ties to terrorism against the US. He banned travel from predominately Muslim (that's a religion btw) populated countries that have no recent ties to terrorism against the US.fear - hate - lies

Reynard38
01-29-2017, 09:00 PM
How about the Pope? Not current enough?

http://usuncut.com/news/pope-francis-cannot-reject-refugees-call-christian/

Many "Christians" do not recognize Catholics are being members of the faith.

Daniel Noyes
01-29-2017, 09:05 PM
Yes, I see the problem. Trump hasn't banned travel from countries with ties to terrorism against the US. He banned travel from predominately Muslim (that's a religion btw) populated countries that have no recent ties to terrorism against the US.


If Trumpy wants to Ban Muslims from the US by banning travel from "Majority Muslim Countries" he is about 50 countries short of achieving his goal... ?

Leftys can't stand that this is really an attempt to keep US Citizens safer... It's all about Anti Trump with them.

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16388313_1346009102086554_1545591515608110311_n.jp g?oh=c68ab21cc4cb04f5760a28d1e755327d&oe=59125926

Steve McMahon
01-29-2017, 09:09 PM
If Trumpy wants to Ban Muslims from the US by banning travel from "Majority Muslim Countries" he is about 50 countries short of achieving his goal... ?

Leftys can't stand that this is really an attempt to keep US Citizens safer... It's all about Anti Trump with them.

Trump is a (bad) reality TV actor. What he is doing is not going to make you safer, in fact the opposite is true.

Barry
01-29-2017, 09:15 PM
Many "Christians" do not recognize Catholics are being members of the faith.

Ain't that the Truth! When I was a young man, My sister was a deputy DA for the Commonwealth of Virginia. I lived in Richmond with her and my Brother-in- law for 2 years while I help build their house in Midlothian. I also bussed tables at the Meadowbrook Country Club, and I actually overheard some one say exactly that. Gave me pause. Granted it was the "Bubba Country Club", but none the less it caught me off guard.

PeterSibley
01-29-2017, 09:19 PM
Leviticus? Seriously man that **** don't count that's the Hebrew part of the Bible. . .

Yoo! That's the book that says eating oysters is the same as being gay. Both are abominations. Have a mussel?

PeterSibley
01-29-2017, 09:21 PM
If Trumpy wants to Ban Muslims from the US by banning travel from "Majority Muslim Countries" he is about 50 countries short of achieving his goal... ?

Leftys can't stand that this is really an attempt to keep US Citizens safer... It's all about Anti Trump with them.

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16388313_1346009102086554_1545591515608110311_n.jp g?oh=c68ab21cc4cb04f5760a28d1e755327d&oe=59125926

We'll all go and protest against ISIS. That'll rock 'em ! :confused:

ahp
01-29-2017, 09:50 PM
That whole concept is so monstrously offensive. It's hard to understand how such a perversion of Christian teaching could have occurred.

I have never heard one of DT's speeches, but I believe that the Calvinist doctrine states that God may show his favor to some by rewarding material prosperity here in this life. That idea went out of favor in the North anyway, when the Gilded age ended. Have I missed something?

lupussonic
01-29-2017, 09:51 PM
Ever been to a majority Muslim country Daniel?

Daniel Noyes
01-29-2017, 10:08 PM
Yes, I see the problem. Trump hasn't banned travel from countries with ties to terrorism against the US. He banned travel from predominately Muslim (that's a religion btw) populated countries that have no recent ties to terrorism against the US.


If he wants to Ban Muslims from the US by banning travel from "Majority Muslim Countries" he is about 50 countries short of achieving his goal... ?

Leftys can't stand that this is really an attempt to keep US Citizens safer... It's all about Anti Trump with them.

CWSmith
01-29-2017, 10:28 PM
Many "Christians" do not recognize Catholics are being members of the faith.

That's ok. Many Catholics feel the same about fundys.

CWSmith
01-29-2017, 10:36 PM
I have never heard one of DT's speeches, but I believe that the Calvinist doctrine states that God may show his favor to some by rewarding material prosperity here in this life. That idea went out of favor in the North anyway, when the Gilded age ended. Have I missed something?

I am only responding to this because it was directed to me. I am not well-informed on Calvinism and you really should consult someone who is.

My very limited knowledge of Calvinism centers on the belief that certain people are pre-ordained for salvation. Others, like me, believe the message of salvation is available to all. Beyond that, I know nothing of Calvinism, but I've never heard that it preaches rewards on Earth.

bobbys
01-29-2017, 11:23 PM
Yoo! That's the book that says eating oysters is the same as being gay. Both are abominations. Have a mussel?
.

Well , not really , there was a moral law, the 10 commandmeants , a Ceremonial law, eating certain foods, clothes, etc .

Not the same...

PeterSibley
01-30-2017, 02:49 AM
There's no Commandment against homosexuality. The ruling against seafood is all about keeping people from getting cholera or typhoid. The rule against mixing wool and linen is harder to explain.

Glen Longino
01-30-2017, 03:09 AM
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Well , not really , there was a moral law, the 10 commandmeants , a Ceremonial law, eating certain foods, clothes, etc .

Not the same...

Oh boy, Friar bbbsss waxes eloquent on the scriptures!
I've been praying for this for many years!
Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord!

birlinn
01-30-2017, 03:51 AM
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Well , not really , there was a moral law, the 10 commandmeants , a Ceremonial law, eating certain foods, clothes, etc .

Not the same...
I've given up eating certain clothes anyway.

skuthorp
01-30-2017, 05:46 AM
If he wants to Ban Muslims from the US by banning travel from "Majority Muslim Countries" he is about 50 countries short of achieving his goal... ?

Leftys can't stand that this is really an attempt to keep US Citizens safer... It's all about Anti Trump with them.

Well, in that case I expect that action to restrict hand gun ownership, for a start, will be somewhere in the next few Executive Orders to be issued.....................

PeterSibley
01-30-2017, 05:52 AM
Well, in that case I expect that action to restrict hand gun ownership, for a start, will be somewhere in the next few Executive Orders to be issued.....................

A massive restriction of gun ownership is coming if Trump actually cares for the safety of US citizens.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2016-09-01-1472759565-493250-extreme_extreme_vetting.jpg

bamamick
01-30-2017, 07:44 AM
In churches across American priests, pastors, ministers, etc. talked about welcoming people fleeing war, poverty, and suffering. I know that was the message in many Methodist churches, and Episcopal priest I know sent us his sermon from his new church and the message was the same.

During this whole episode the one thing I have always asked myself is how a Christian could turn his or her back on people who need us? The answer is simple: you can't. I don't think there is any arguing it at all, just like I have never understood how 'fundamentalist Christians' could support a man with the ethical track record of our current President.

Mickey Lake

jack grebe
01-30-2017, 07:54 AM
As just seen elsewhere:

Quote:

If you claim to be a Christian and you are not outraged over Trump's treatment of immigrants, you at a hypocrite.

Source: Uh, the Bible

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as your self, for you were foreigners in Egypt. ( Leviticus 19:33-34 ) "

Unquote.

So that means the police should shoot them, just like they

do to the young black men?