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cs
01-25-2017, 08:01 AM
At least for me. After a few good years and 203K miles my trusty old Saturn Ion has given up the ghost. Had a serious drop in power and then spun the timing chain and we reached the conclusion that instead of investing more money into a 12 year old car with over 203K miles it was time to cut and run. With all the driving I do for work and the Guard gas mileage was a very important factor for me. I was getting 30-33 MPG in the Saturn and I expect a bit more with this.

I've been wanting one of these anyway, so what better time than here and now. So without further ado here is the new to me 2013 Fiat 500 Sport, with a 5 speed and even the color I like.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114919_1209924359045446_3250410448623711702_n.jp g?oh=68bad8211ebc9b67f8a59cd38419161e&oe=58FF641B

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16298916_1209924375712111_7495352779062138024_n.jp g?oh=571a456ccd9171d003ce1d48fe9215d8&oe=5910E0C5

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142587_1209924402378775_4094210795693871096_n.jp g?oh=59b1cc56c5433465e2819cd481e57375&oe=5919A56E

Chad

Garret
01-25-2017, 08:07 AM
Fun! I rented one for a couple of weeks & enjoyed it.

cs
01-25-2017, 08:23 AM
I think that I will enjoy it. It is nice to be in a car that is not boring like a Saturn Ion, even though that car was dependable and served me well. Looking forward to even more gas savings...which will be counterbalanced by the wife's new purchase.

Yeah she decided to go ahead and trade her Jeep Renegade in on a Nissan Frontier, pictures later. So yeah I bought the "girlie" car and she has the truck. LOL

I loved that Renegade but there were a few nagging issues that bugged her. We bought the manual transmission and she wasn't happy with that. And there were a few software issues that I think were caused by the manual transmission. And on top of that the VIN number we actually printed wrong on the data plate and everytime you ran the VIN it came up as invalid. All those little issues bothered her. It ran and drove great and was fun to drive, but she wanted something else.

Chad

Keith Wilson
01-25-2017, 08:27 AM
Cool! I particularly like the Bianchi Green ones. (Link for those who don't know about Bianchi bicycle's signature color.) (http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2012/01/origins-of-bianchi-celeste-and-more.html)

Reynard38
01-25-2017, 08:32 AM
Looks like a fun car to take for a drive on the Dragons Tail and the Cherahola Skyway. :)

Canoez
01-25-2017, 08:32 AM
What's the fuel economy supposed to be like in the Fiat, Chad?

Dan McCosh
01-25-2017, 08:34 AM
Grab it quick, Trump had a meeting yesterday with FCA to keep the car from being sold in the U.S.

L.W. Baxter
01-25-2017, 08:39 AM
Great paint job, I like it.

cs
01-25-2017, 08:44 AM
Hwy it is supposed to be around 38 MPG. I've heard reports that it exceeds 40 MPH on average. We will see.

Chad

Figment
01-25-2017, 09:12 AM
oh kiiiiiiick aaaaaaass!!!

FWIW I would have a very difficult time driving that thing sedately enough to get much more than 25mpg.

Boater14
01-25-2017, 09:18 AM
I'm mystified at the fun in driving idea. At any given time your surrounded by drunks, sleepy truckers, pill heads and young and old on the phone nodding heads up and down texting all on the Varrazanno Bridge. You fun lovers arent driving where I am. Cute car.

Figment
01-25-2017, 09:27 AM
No. but you're not so far off.

Take the tunnel to the west side highway. run the henry hudson and saw mill parkways for a while with your foot down and tell me you aren't smiling.

Garret
01-25-2017, 09:31 AM
I'm mystified at the fun in driving idea. At any given time your surrounded by drunks, sleepy truckers, pill heads and young and old on the phone nodding heads up and down texting all on the Varrazanno Bridge. You fun lovers arent driving where I am. Cute car.

I get on the interstate, set the cruise control, drive 3 hours, turn off cruise when I change to another highway. Driving from my place to town at say 10PM I will see 3 or 4 cars in the first 20 miles.

Different world (says a guy who was on the GS Parkway @ 4PM about a month ago).

Mileage on the Fiat: I rented one in Illinois & found that the 20MPH headwind made a significant difference in MPG! 28 one way, 40 the other.

Dan McCosh
01-25-2017, 09:55 AM
Main caveat I would have is service. The Fiat 500 earned a rank close to the bottom of Consumer Reports reliability survey. It also has an innovative, but complex engine that uses a hydraulic lifter rather than a camshaft for valve actuation. It is not something familiar to local mechanics. The low production volume and sales makes parts availability problematic. One would think that these issues would earn it a low resale value--making it look like a deal when buying used.

Bob Adams
01-25-2017, 09:57 AM
Fix It Again Tony:d

Reynard38
01-25-2017, 10:02 AM
I'm mystified at the fun in driving idea. At any given time your surrounded by drunks, sleepy truckers, pill heads and young and old on the phone nodding heads up and down texting all on the Varrazanno Bridge. You fun lovers arent driving where I am. Cute car.

This might help with the demystification.



https://youtu.be/1AwAomB1aRU

One of my favorite stretches of asphalt. 55 miles of sweepers, and great BBQ on the eastern end.
Go during the week. Not many cops around. If your headed east watch out for one seriously decreasing radius right just after the state line. It got my attention!

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-25-2017, 11:06 AM
Neat - cute and built in big numbers - in the top twenty cars by volume in Europe - every owner I've met loves it.

Have fun.

isla
01-25-2017, 11:24 AM
Yeah, nice little car. They have a great range of colours.

leikec
01-25-2017, 11:27 AM
I put it in the same category as a Jeep Wrangler--lots of fun but be sure to buy the extended warranty.

Jeff C

bamamick
01-25-2017, 11:47 AM
I like those a lot. My wife swears she will put her foot down if I ever seriously look at something like that (considering I am 6'1" and weigh about 270 pounds on a good day), but dang, I drive 100 miles to work and back every day and I would love to save money on gas. I have my boat hauler, a 1999 Ford F250 diesel with 248K on it (it's in really good shape), but my day to day vehicle is a 2002 Ford Explorer SportTrac, and it has 172,000 on it now. It can't go on forever, so I will have to replace it with something over the next four years before I retire.

Congrats, Chad. Pretty sporty. For some reason I'd thought you'd retired from the Guard?

Mickey Lake

Joe (SoCal)
01-25-2017, 11:56 AM
Cool! I particularly like the Bianchi Green ones. (Link for those who don't know about Bianchi bicycle's signature color.) (http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2012/01/origins-of-bianchi-celeste-and-more.html)

Ummmm I think Amish Rob and myself know (Celeste #227):D

As for the 500 I've got Cool hipster friend here in SoCal that drives one and She, loves her's ;)
I've driven the 500 Abarth - Ummmmm THRILLING but probably not the MPG you want.
The 500e electric is VERY popular here in SoCal. It comes in (for me) a VERY sexy burnt orange and white.

http://www.automobilesreview.com/gallery/2013-fiat-500e/2013-fiat-500e-05.jpg

Sadly it only has about a 180 mile range so unless you live in SoCal and have access to as many charging stations as we have here it wouldnt work as a long distance driver.

FYI the original 500 was like 1/2 the size. Ohhhh and OHHH the 4 door 500L is JUST FREAKING STUPID and Ugly looking - OK rant over

Joe (SoCal)
01-25-2017, 11:57 AM
fits in this thread ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOPRTKQy7Z0

gilberj
01-25-2017, 12:00 PM
I have always driven sub-compacts till the last few years. It was always with an environmental awareness in the background. Now in deference to the needs of the farm I find myself driving a Ford F150 or a van. If I retire perhaps I can return to a small car.....

Nicholas Scheuer
01-25-2017, 12:33 PM
Been looking at those myself. You've posted my fav color, too.

Jim Bow
01-25-2017, 12:36 PM
The Gucci Edition

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/81/d4/80/81d4801e525256bbb860c441d99548ad.jpg

David G
01-25-2017, 12:37 PM
Fix It Again Tony:d

A well-earned acronym... back in the day.

Although my old 124 Sport Coupe may have been the most trouble-free vehicle I ever owned. It was my daily driver, and I worked it hard. And drove it to the track, raced it, and drove it home again.

My impression is that Fiats in general have brought their reliability up to industry standard over the years.

But all the reviews do seem to suggest that they're using the 500 to bring back that old reputation. Too bad. Cool little car.

Jim Bow
01-25-2017, 12:43 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/39/f3/fc/39f3fcb56d4f50063b6454284ed81d36.jpg

cs
01-25-2017, 12:59 PM
For some reason I'd thought you'd retired from the Guard?

Mickey Lake

Not yet. Of course that could change any day, you never know. As of right now though I get to go interview for a 1SG position at a unit in the far NE corner of the state.

Chad

Garret
01-25-2017, 01:20 PM
A well-earned acronym... back in the day.

Although my old 124 Sport Coupe may have been the most trouble-free vehicle I ever owned. It was my daily driver, and I worked it hard. And drove it to the track, raced it, and drove it home again.

My impression is that Fiats in general have brought their reliability up to industry standard over the years.

But all the reviews do seem to suggest that they're using the 500 to bring back that old reputation. Too bad. Cool little car.

My last 124 spider got retired @ 170K.

If people are expecting it to be a Chevy Malibu reliability-wise, then they will be disappointed.

leikec
01-25-2017, 01:36 PM
My last 124 spider got retired @ 170K.

If people are expecting it to be a Chevy Malibu reliability-wise, then they will be disappointed.

My 1976 128 coupe was very reliable. I drove it a long time with very few issues. I'd love to find one now to mess around with, but most of them have turned to dust by now. I had mine Zeibarted when I bought it, and it still looked good after four Detroit winters when I sold it 1980.

Jeff C

Canoez
01-25-2017, 01:43 PM
I'll be waiting for Chad to "soup it up" - like this Beetle:

http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/images/VW_Rear_Pa1_PScopy.jpg

cs
01-25-2017, 02:03 PM
LOL nope, moved past the time where I want to work on cars. Now maybe I could hire someone to do the work.

Chad

George Jung
01-25-2017, 02:09 PM
Fun car - do they still have an aluminum top? Friend had one - apparently repairing hail damage was 'interesting'!

My daughter got a late model Honda Civic recently - the quality improvements/ride/handling etc has gotten really good in these small cars.

cs
01-25-2017, 02:14 PM
Not sure about the body material of the top, will have to check that out.

With a 90.55" wheel base the ride can be a bit choppy, but it does handle like it is on rails, kinda sporty feel to the handling. And even though it only has around 100 hp it does have a very peppy feel to it and I've had no issues keeping up with or merging into highway traffic.

Chad

Joe (SoCal)
01-25-2017, 05:51 PM
I had a Fiat X1/9 that little mid engine bugger used to ride like a slot car. I had more fun with that little Bertoné designed targa than all my other cars combined.............. until I saw blue smoke in the rearview :(

http://13252-presscdn-0-94.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1979-Fiat-X1-9-Rear.jpg

Dan McCosh
01-25-2017, 06:46 PM
I had a Fiat X1/9 that little mid engine bugger used to ride like a slot car. I had more fun with that little Bertoné designed targa than all my other cars combined.............. until I saw blue smoke in the rearview :(

http://13252-presscdn-0-94.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1979-Fiat-X1-9-Rear.jpg The X1/9 was supposed to be the original Ford Mustang.

john l
01-25-2017, 07:19 PM
My wife leased a fiat 500 pop with the 5 speed for 42 months. She used it as a commuter car and also made a number of 4 hour trips with. No matter how hard we drove it, it never got less than 33 mpgs. Trips saw 40 mpgs. It has tall doors making it easy to get in and out of so it was comfy for around town trips. We brought it to the local Chrysler/mopar dealer for maintenance and oil changes. No problems with it . She probably would have bought it off the lease if she didn't get a job in jeju South Korea . Btw, when she decided to get the fiat she was driving our 02 Volvo v70 with 220k miles which we had from new - Big size and weight change. My TDI got better gas mileage and was more comfy than the fiat but is now headed back to vw. My wife now drives a Hamstermobile SOUL in Korea which is a nice appliance with vague steering and a great value.

amish rob
01-25-2017, 07:22 PM
Ummmm I think Amish Rob and myself know (Celeste #227):D

As for the 500 I've got Cool hipster friend here in SoCal that drives one and She, loves her's ;)
I've driven the 500 Abarth - Ummmmm THRILLING but probably not the MPG you want.
The 500e electric is VERY popular here in SoCal. It comes in (for me) a VERY sexy burnt orange and white.

http://www.automobilesreview.com/gallery/2013-fiat-500e/2013-fiat-500e-05.jpg

Sadly it only has about a 180 mile range so unless you live in SoCal and have access to as many charging stations as we have here it wouldnt work as a long distance driver.

FYI the original 500 was like 1/2 the size. Ohhhh and OHHH the 4 door 500L is JUST FREAKING STUPID and Ugly looking - OK rant over
Oh, yes, Celeste. Ahh, the good old days.
I have a couple friends with the electric ones. They spin the tires pretty readily from a start. I heard. Ahem.

Peace,
Robert

john l
01-25-2017, 07:27 PM
Fiat calls that light green Pistachio

cs
01-25-2017, 09:36 PM
Found one thing I don't like and that is you cannot stream music through the Blue&Me connection. All that does is connect your phone via Bluetooth for hands free calling. Guess I will have to keep the iPod connected in the glove box.

Chad

Garret
01-25-2017, 09:56 PM
Found one thing I don't like and that is you cannot stream music through the Blue&Me connection. All that does is connect your phone via Bluetooth for hands free calling. Guess I will have to keep the iPod connected in the glove box.

Chad

Connect your phone via the cable & you can stream music & have the phone/handsfree features. Plus it charges your phone as you listen. http://ramseyfiat.com/2015/09/04/fiat-500-blue-and-me-technology-playing-media

Reynard38
01-25-2017, 10:06 PM
A John Cooper Works Mini might be my next ride. 228hp in a Mini is a lot of fun.

David G
01-25-2017, 10:25 PM
A John Cooper Works Mini might be my next ride. 228hp in a Mini is a lot of fun.

Another nifty little tosser with a bad reliability record. <sigh>

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-26-2017, 01:17 AM
Connect your phone via the cable & you can stream music & have the phone/handsfree features. Plus it charges your phone as you listen. http://ramseyfiat.com/2015/09/04/fiat-500-blue-and-me-technology-playing-media

Sometimes.

The cable connection on my fiat does not play well with android phones after v4 but it does work really well with a USB stick.....

Garret
01-26-2017, 06:42 AM
Sometimes.

The cable connection on my fiat does not play well with android phones after v4 but it does work really well with a USB stick.....

I'd only tried it with an iPhone. Shoulda said so.

Reynard38
01-26-2017, 07:05 AM
Another nifty little tosser with a bad reliability record. <sigh>

Accordimg to my mechanic since they've gone to BMW drivetrains and ditched the CVT tranny they are much better.
Our daughter has the base 4 door model with the 3 cylinder turbo. Amazing torque from a 1.5 liter engine and almost 40 mpg highway, plus its really fun to drive.

To me cars are a bit like boats. If after you park it if you don't turn around to take another look and smile what's the point of owning it?

Life is too short.

cs
01-26-2017, 07:27 AM
Like you said I could connect via the USB or even the Aux if I wanted. Sometimes I would do that in my other car if on particular long trips and I wanted to listen to Slacker or Pandora instead.

But what I like is the no fuss approach. My daughter's car she just gets in it and drives and it picks up her phone and starts Pandora, no worries no fuss, just music playing. That is one of the reasons I like the Ipod i the car. It connects via USB and just automatically starts to play when I start the car. It stays in the glove box, I don't have to turn it on or off, just start the car and there you go it is playing right where it left off last time you were in the car.

Just wish I had this same option with Slacker or Pandora, but no worries there. I've been doing it this way for a long time and I have a fantastic selection of music on my Ipod.

Chad

Garret
01-26-2017, 07:41 AM
Mechanically, the Minis are much better than they were (better mileage too). Where Minis have issues is electrical/systems. My brother had one that had a bad sunroof drain that completely soaked the dash - eventually destroying most everything electrical in it. To Mini's credit, they eventually traded it for a new one at retail book value + 1,000. I had a seat sensor for the airbag go in one which meant $600 for a new seat bottom. Of course, cars simply cost a lot more to fix nowadays.

Both the Minis & Fiats have some rust issues up here - but that's not an issue for TN & GA.

Whameller
01-26-2017, 08:01 AM
We have had three Fiat Pandas (same chassis floorplan and drivetrain as the 500) as second cars over the last 10 years; my mother has also had two. We have found them to be very reliable. The MPG (gas mileage in American ?) you get depends on which engine; we currently have the 1.2 petrol, which averages in the mid 30s MPG, while Mum has the Twin Air 900cc. The latter, in theory, can achieve incredible MPG but in practice seems to average in the low 40s; mostly depends on how you drive it. All manual gearchange, 5 gears.

Rich Jones
01-26-2017, 08:07 AM
I want the new 2017 Fiat 124 Spider. Sweet looking sportscar.

David G
01-26-2017, 12:36 PM
I want the new 2017 Fiat 124 Spider. Sweet looking sportscar.

Compare it to the Mazda Miata, of course. The Mazda tilts slightly toward sporty. The Fiat iteration slightly toware cruising. I like the looks of both.

cs
01-27-2017, 07:49 AM
Okay finally here is a picture of the wife's new ride. If you look closely you can see mine on the other side.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387138_1526231340724308_2862130536701414158_n.jp g?oh=cfdfbee56269ca554ce10f740fdd1acd&oe=5913854E

Now that we have a truck I'm going to get rid of the old Grand Cherokee that you can see the nose of in the picture. That is my old work truck for hauling around the trailer.
Chad

Jim Mahan
01-27-2017, 08:39 AM
To me cars are a bit like boats. If after you park it if you don't turn around to take another look and smile what's the point of owning it?

I know. Right? The way I see it, having it meet all the practical needs and then on top of that you get a thrill—that's optimum, it's value-added. You're gonna be driving a car anyway, why would you not pick one that also quickens your pulse when you feel like it, as long as it still brings you home from work everyday, too?

My car is twenty years old, now, and I have no idea what the gas mileage is. I save gas by not driving much at all. The way I drive it's prolly around twelve or fourteen, but amortized over a year and compared to you working stiff commuters, call it ninety.

Without looking, just thinking about it, I think it would be an interesting side by side test twixt a Miata and 124 Spider. I had a '91 and a '77 respectively. I would have either again. But I'm hoping the current one is the last one. It's everything I want it to be, and it's probably faster than those two.