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Jim.Montana
11-29-2016, 10:02 PM
Over the past couple of summers of sailing Rumsey – a Don Kurylko D18 Myst beach cruiser – I’ve found a few ways to utilize the four oarlock sockets when they are not being used for rowing that I thought might be of use to others, especially those having boats with two rowing stations.

Myst rowing stations
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These are the parts and pieces that have found good use thus far
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The first was not my idea, but was suggested by Don based on another forumite’s invention – swiveling camcleats for the jib sheets made by mounting a camcleat on a platform fitted with a 5/8 inch dowel. I immediately found that I needed a downstream lead in order to make the cleat point at the sheet-handler, which was accomplished by adding the triangular piece shown, with the slot cut high enough to allow for releasing the cleat. I also added a D-ring through the dowel to prevent the whole affair from lifting out of the socket.

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These have the added advantage of allowing the swiveling camcleat to be placed at the forward station when sailing with crew, or moved to the aft station when single-handling, putting the jib sheet right next to the main sheet. They have worked great for two seasons with no signs of weakening or breaking, with just a hardwood dowel.

Next up was the need for a better way to strap Rumsey to the trailer without damaging the coaming and trim rail. The two grooved strap guides accomplish this very well, leading the rope I use as a belly strap over the coaming and outside of the trim, down to an eyebolt on the fender of my trailer. I don’t have a picture of these in use, but they have been used from many trips over a full summer and have proven to do their job well.

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Jim.Montana
11-29-2016, 10:03 PM
And lastly (for now), I needed a place to stow oars and the main sail when I put up the tent. Somewhere on a thread long ago I saw a painting of a boat having some sort of large, u-shaped brackets on the rail for this purpose. My implementation uses scrap pieces of mahogany and another 5/8 inch dowel.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1606/26117717253_0ddda0d1a7.jpg

Oar storage in use with tent mounted
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And of course I needed a place to store the oarlocks when not in use. Rumsey lacks adequate tie-downs generally, so these, added to several frames just above the deck, serve that purpose and oarlock storage as well.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5569/31181343052_d6a3669a92.jpg

Woxbox
11-29-2016, 10:23 PM
Smart stuff. I think it was Small Boat Journal that used to have a regular feature of readers' ideas like these. A fishing rod holder would be another use. Sockets to take a fiberglass bow to support a tent or awning. You've got me thinking.

Jim.Montana
11-30-2016, 12:36 AM
Sockets to take a fiberglass bow to support a tent or awning.

Jeff Saar - builder of Myst hull #1, added a third set of oarlock sockets for his tent/awning.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5479/31329561645_f58cbe0067.jpg

I'd like to do something similar - for shade and for shelter when setting up the backpacking tent isn't called for.

Jim

heimlaga
11-30-2016, 04:18 AM
Those storage forks were typically made from tree forks in the old days here in Österbotten. They fitted into the square mortise for the removable thole pins. A very common way of storing oars and masts while hauling the nets.

Great to see this old concept taken up anew on the other side of the planet and put into a modern context.

dktyson
11-30-2016, 06:14 AM
And lastly (for now), I needed a place to stow oars and the main sail when I put up the tent. Somewhere on a thread long ago I saw a painting of a boat having some sort of large, u-shaped brackets on the rail for this purpose. My implementation uses scrap pieces of mahogany and another 5/8 inch dowel.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1606/26117717253_0ddda0d1a7.jpg



I'm gonna copy these. The 10' oars take up a lot of space onboard.

Pitsligo
11-30-2016, 03:39 PM
Oarlock sockets are incredibly useful. Aboard Bucephalus, I either use them for the practical, like a "Knoticator" streaming knot-meter that drops into place in the socket and is held secure by an expansion plug at the bottom of the stem (no photos of it in place, I'm afraid):

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The prosaic, a rubber stopper on the end of a cord, that jams into the oarlock and holds the bench seat up while I'm accessing the lockers beneath (the stopper stows by jamming into the hole in the batten on the underside of the bench):

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5795/31305535476_45169ce9da_z.jpg

Or the completely frivolous, a Winchester 10ga cannon on a home-made swivel gun mount (you wouldn't believe the lengths I went to to strengthen that oarlock to take the recoil):

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/31305537396_20ab7fcf94_c.jpg

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Alex

Jim.Montana
11-30-2016, 09:41 PM
Wow - shut this thread down! Nobody is going to top that cannon - absolutely beautiful. Makes all other possible oarlock socket uses seem pretty mundane.

A coworker from long ago had a homemade cannon mounted on a huge "canoe" that he used to lob golf balls down river while floating the Wild and Scenic section of the Missouri. He also was known to enjoy a campfire built in the middle of the boat while floating. I'm thinking maybe Bucephalus has not had the campfire experience?

We just returned from Cody Wyoming, home of the largest firearms collection I've ever imagined. Nothing like this cannon on display . . .

Jay Greer
11-30-2016, 10:07 PM
Ingenious adaptations sir!
I offer my own rail gun that is fore hatch mounted. Not nearly as clever as yours but it does go BANG!
Jay
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rgthom
11-30-2016, 11:26 PM
What great ideas, love the outboard oar storage (going to copy also) and the cannon.

How about a folding bimini that fits into the sockets?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7104/7330451194_12a562d193_c.jpg

Thorne
12-01-2016, 01:17 AM
I just have a second set of oarlocks in front with round bronze locks for the handles of the oars, and always keep my oars on the gunwale, what the Kiwis call "torpedo style". Friends tie them in a bundle hung from the oarlocks and hang them outboard to save space.

Ben Fuller
12-01-2016, 07:12 AM
My oars get stuck over the bow Norwegian style as I often sit on the rail of Ran Tan. For those historically inclined have a look at the double oarlock fittings on a whaleboat where oars had to get stowed and retrieved fast. Other useful things to do with sockets is to use them for the bows for a winter cover. I've also plugged the base of an old VW Bus mirror for rowing. It goes in the after socket when I am rowing solo in the dory, or the amidships one when rowing two up.

Garret
12-01-2016, 12:24 PM
Some fantastic stuff here! I must say that the cannon does steal the show...

Jay Greer
12-01-2016, 12:34 PM
I think you could expand beyond the rowlocks and come up with a whole new horizon of boating concepts! I can even see a coffee table book on it!
Jay

Pitsligo
12-01-2016, 01:41 PM
I like that bimini cover!

I also *really* like the lashdown fairleads / protection in the OP. I may need to build some of those for my sister's Sid Skiff.

I don't have any photos to expand the thread a bit, but there's also a lot that can be done with the oarlock sockets used for sculling locks. Bucephalus's sculling lock socket doubles as a socket for her flagstaff.

Jay, I love your cannon! What is it? I also want to hear whether you've had any trouble when lighting it off. Oly PD all but promised they'd lock me up and throw away the key if I set mine off within their jurisdiction. "Illegal fireworks."

Alex

Jim.Montana
12-02-2016, 01:03 AM
I think we can all agree that the cannon is the cover photo on the coffee table book. And - I need to add one to Rumsey just for the cool factor.

rgthom - I want the bimini, but I want it to roll up into a nice cylinder for storage. How about a demo of how yours folds away? A bimini is a great idea in that it could be set up in the forward sockets or aft sockets, depending on where one needed the shade at the time. Did you make yours?

Ben - love the mirror idea. I get a sore neck every time I row - cranking my head around. I normally row from the aft station, but could try moving forward, giving me the aft socket for the mirror. Gotta be a VW bus mirror.

I do normally leave the oars in the oarlocks - when not in use I pull them inboard until the blade is caught in the lock, then tuck the handles under the gunnels. They are pretty much out of the way. However, even in that position, they get in the way of the tent, thus the outboard storage. Also needed a place to put the main/yard/sprit boom when tenting.

More ideas please. I'm anxious to get back in the shop.

Jim

Jay Greer
12-02-2016, 01:59 PM
I like that bimini cover!

I also *really* like the lashdown fairleads / protection in the OP. I may need to build some of those for my sister's Sid Skiff.

I don't have any photos to expand the thread a bit, but there's also a lot that can be done with the oarlock sockets used for sculling locks. Bucephalus's sculling lock socket doubles as a socket for her flagstaff.

Jay, I love your cannon! What is it? I also want to hear whether you've had any trouble when lighting it off. Oly PD all but promised they'd lock me up and throw away the key if I set mine off within their jurisdiction. "Illegal fireworks."

Alex
I was about to delete that photo as I didn't want to take the focus off of your posting of great ideas!

This small cannon was once used by the New York Yacht Club for starting races. I think it is over a hundred years old. When I got the cannon, a gift from a friend, it was missing a few parts so we had to machine a few new ones, a firing pin and the shell ejector set up.
It still has the makers plate on it which says "B & H Yacht Cannon #4". Which tells me that it was set up for four gauge brass blanks once. Before I got it, someone had sleeved it down to ten gauge which is loud enough! We used it for many years to open and close the Wooden Boat Festival here in Port Townsend. It is fired by yanking on the lanyard that swings a small hammer that hits the spring loaded firing pin. It is a bit Rube Goldberg but effective and fun! We always use it for festive occasions and have yet to be busted!:ycool:
Jay

Pitsligo
12-02-2016, 04:43 PM
I think we can all agree that the cannon is the cover photo on the coffee table book.

Perhaps, but it's wildly impractical, an abberation in the theme of your OP, and I'm a bit chagrined at having overwhelmed a thread of otherwise very useful ideas. I really expected more weird stuff like mine, that mine wouldn't stand out so much.

How did you set up the stems on those cam cleats? Are they just dowel? I'm never sure how much strain a 1/2" oak dowel can take --even when the strain isn't something so dramatic as cannon recoil. And do you have trouble with wood stems swelling and locking "accessories" in place?

I've been putting some thought into some way to mount Bucephalus's sea-swing style stove in her oarlock sockets, for use at anchor, since there's more room in the cockpit than down below. I haven't yet come up with that perfect arrangement. (And no, no floating campfire experience. I'm trying to avoid that, actually.)


We always use it for festive occasions and have yet to be busted!:ycool:

That's encouraging. They're common enough on the east coast that I didn't think they'd be a big deal out here, but local law enforcement sees things differently.

Alex

Ben Fuller
12-02-2016, 09:57 PM
How did you set up the stems on those cam cleats? Are they just dowel? I'm never sure how much strain a 1/2" oak dowel can take --even when the strain isn't something so dramatic as cannon recoil. And do you have trouble with wood stems swelling and locking "accessories" in place?


Alex

I have a set of open cams for RANTAN for the mainsheet that go into the windward oarlock sockets. I used SS 1/2 inch bolts. I have had trouble with 1/2" oak dowels for my winter cover on TIPSY the dory, solved with some plane nibbles and sand paper after driving the dowels up into PVC pipe.

rgthom
12-03-2016, 12:00 AM
I want the bimini, but I want it to roll up into a nice cylinder for storage. How about a demo of how yours folds away? A bimini is a great idea in that it could be set up in the forward sockets or aft sockets, depending on where one needed the shade at the time. Did you make yours?
The bimini is made from laminated wood bows, 3/4" dowels, plastic bimini fittings and some leftover fabric. I don't have any demos but it just folds down onto the aft deck, or the dowels pull out of the bows and it all rolls up into a bundle. It is not really much windage, and my wife is much happier out of the sun.

Jim.Montana
12-03-2016, 12:32 AM
an abberation in the theme

I disagree. Theme was "Fun" and what could be more fun than a cannon?


How did you set up the stems on those cam cleats? Are they just dowel? I'm never sure how much strain a 1/2" oak dowel can take --even when the strain isn't something so dramatic as cannon recoil. And do you have trouble with wood stems swelling and locking "accessories" in place?

My sockets take a 5/8 inch dowel. I admit I was worried about an oak dowel taking the strain - thought I'd have to switch to brass or SS. So far - after probably 25 sailing days - they are holding up fine. I inset them probably 1/2 inch into the platform, epoxy or titebond glued - I can't remember. I have seen some swelling, but nothing I haven't been able to overcome by twisting the accessory out. The dowels are finished with a marine oil.


I've been putting some thought into some way to mount Bucephalus's sea-swing style stove in her oarlock sockets, for use at anchor, since there's more room in the cockpit than down below.

Years ago, when we first began work on Rumsey, I bought one of those marine kettle grills, intending to mount it in an oarlock socket for use at anchor (in a very quiet setting, as no way to gimbal it that I can see). The thing has seen a lot of use on land, and I actually like it, but I've yet to mount it on Rumsey.

Jim

Jim.Montana
12-03-2016, 12:43 AM
The bimini is made from laminated wood bows, 3/4" dowels, plastic bimini fittings and some leftover fabric. I don't have any demos but it just folds down onto the aft deck, or the dowels pull out of the bows and it all rolls up into a bundle.

That's what I wanted to hear. I'm thinking with minimal curve to the bows and the dowels easily removed from the bows, storage rolled up below deck would work. I'm going to give this serious thought for lunch on the water, fishing, or just nap-time. I'd planned on something that stretched between the two masts, but right now I'm liking this solution. Care to throw out some dimensions to get a guy started in the right direction? Did you make the fittings for the end of the bows?

Jim

rgthom
12-03-2016, 12:23 PM
That's what I wanted to hear. I'm thinking with minimal curve to the bows and the dowels easily removed from the bows, storage rolled up below deck would work. I'm going to give this serious thought for lunch on the water, fishing, or just nap-time. I'd planned on something that stretched between the two masts, but right now I'm liking this solution. Care to throw out some dimensions to get a guy started in the right direction? Did you make the fittings for the end of the bows?

Jim
Well, you made me go take some pictures BY:D. The bows are the same width as the socket spacing, which is 54" on my boat. I think that I would make the bows a little smaller, it would look better if the bimini was smaller and the supports leaned in a bit. Front to back is about 38".

Since making the bimini I got better at bows while making a folding dodger/tent. This bow has cotton/phenolic tubing epoxied on as the dowel socket. It has more curvature than you would want for a bimini:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5832/30572844684_833cf0a9bf_c.jpg

And this is the folding support - 1/2" diameter tubing, a wood block, and a bimini hinge. A stainless screw passes through with a thumb nut to secure it into the oarlock socket, that's probably overkill:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5692/30586776653_76e633640b_c.jpg

-Rick

Jim.Montana
12-05-2016, 12:00 AM
Thanks much, Rick. Lots of good information here. Definitely going to give this a try. Heading back to the coast (grandchildren, Christmas) for a few weeks, so this is looking like a January project. There's a small chance that it could be made to fold onto the aft deck when not in use, but more likely it will be fully removed and stored. As I said, it might even be mounted in the forward sockets at times.

Looking back at the photo of your bimini, I see that you have also employed a rowing mirror. Nicely done.

Jim

dktyson
08-06-2017, 05:52 AM
You guys in Montana, Maine, or the PNW may find no use for this... but on the Chesapeake in the Summer, we like to heave-to and swim on a hot day. Climbing back in using my rope ladder doesn't work too well for anyone over 25, so I made this oarlock socket mounting swim ladder.

It's a little bulky, but stows under one of the deck grates and installs instantly when needed. Of course I don't always carry it on board, but it's nice for a family outing. A stainless steel pin holds it securely in the oarlock socket.

Not very pretty, but I wasn't sure the whole project would even work so I didn't want to waste expensive materials. Maybe the next one will be a beautifully crafted piece of workmanship. Nah, I'm pretty sure this functional piece will be all that I ever make.
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It needed a little engineering to span the mainsheet cleat. Laminated plywood side rails, teak steps, and the top piece is oak to handle the strain of the pin.
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Jim.Montana
08-06-2017, 04:18 PM
Hi Kent -

It all sounds very interesting and useful. However, your pics will not display. Tried my phone and desktop - neither works.

I've not tried getting in from a dunk and have made no provisions for doing so. Probably need both - the emergency rope sling and the swim ladder.

And now that you have bumped this thread I'll have to get busy and post pictures of my (very slow) progress on a bimini.

Jim

George Ray
08-06-2017, 04:34 PM
Really marvelous and visionary, this thread is destined to become a classic.

dktyson
08-06-2017, 07:27 PM
Hi Kent -

It all sounds very interesting and useful. However, your pics will not display. Tried my phone and desktop - neither works.

I've not tried getting in from a dunk and have made no provisions for doing so. Probably need both - the emergency rope sling and the swim ladder.

And now that you have bumped this thread I'll have to get busy and post pictures of my (very slow) progress on a bimini.

Jim

Anybody else having trouble with the pics? I linked to google photos like I always do. I'll email the pics to you Jim. kent

Ian McColgin
08-06-2017, 07:34 PM
I could not see the pix at #25. Others fine

A number of superb ideas. Great thread.

Garret
08-06-2017, 08:26 PM
I could not see the pix at #25. Others fine

A number of superb ideas. Great thread.

Nor can I.

darroch
08-06-2017, 08:38 PM
Nor I.

Pitsligo
08-06-2017, 10:43 PM
Can't see them here, either. I'm using Firefox on a Mac.

Alex

MN Dave
08-07-2017, 12:13 AM
A more mundane use for oarlocks mounted on the outside of the gunnel as on an Adirondack guideboat is to use them to bolt the boat to a roof rack. You can use them as drill guides to drill through when making the rack to ensure a perfect fit.

dktyson
08-07-2017, 05:20 AM
I could not see the pix at #25. Others fine

A number of superb ideas. Great thread.

Do the pics show now on post #25? Can't tell because I can always see them.

minuteman
08-07-2017, 06:14 AM
I can see them now.

Great thread. I'm just starting to set up my trailer, so I plan to steal the tie-down/coaming protector idea.

Wish I had a cannon!

Kenny

PeterSibley
08-07-2017, 06:42 AM
I can see them.

Thanks for this, some great ideas !

Phil Y
08-07-2017, 09:05 AM
Great ideas.Love the canon of course.

Hull Speed
08-07-2017, 09:25 AM
I don't know how people are seeing the photos in post #25. I have tried 8 different browsers on 4 different operating systems and none display the photos. I have this problem with all photos posted on Google. What's the trick to viewing them?

Ken

darroch
08-07-2017, 09:51 AM
Do the pics show now on post #25? Can't tell because I can always see them.

No pictures for me, although now little x-boxes show up where they should be.

Pitsligo
08-07-2017, 09:55 AM
Do the pics show now on post #25?

Not yet for me.

Might be my computer, though: I can't see embedded YouTube links ever, either.

Alex

Garret
08-07-2017, 09:56 AM
Do the pics show now on post #25? Can't tell because I can always see them.

Nossir.

WI-Tom
08-07-2017, 10:13 AM
I can't see the post #25 photos either. I am on Chrome, and can see other people's photos from Google, just not yours. Must be some reason.

Tom

dktyson
08-07-2017, 04:36 PM
One last try to update the photos in post #25... check it for me please.

gregleetaylor
08-07-2017, 04:49 PM
Success Kent, I couldn't before but now I can! Thanks!

WI-Tom
08-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Success Kent, I couldn't before but now I can! Thanks!

I see 'em as well.

Garret
08-07-2017, 06:08 PM
I can see them too - and what a great idea! Nicely done.

Pitsligo
08-07-2017, 11:17 PM
Yep! I can see them now.

Worth the wait. That's clever.

Alex

Jim.Montana
08-08-2017, 12:38 AM
Very slick, Kent. On my list for next winter's projects. As you said, probably wont go out every time, but a real plus when you are in leisure mode on a hot summer day.

Not sure what you did to get your photos to display, but I sympathize with you. Every time I go to post, I find that the interface (Flickr in my case) has changed and I have to go searching for the URL. A real pain.

Jim.Montana
06-05-2018, 01:38 PM
Ain't it funny how time slips away. Not funny, actually, but more than a little scary.

Back to my January 2017 project of copying Rick's bimini. I actually laminated the bows back in early 2017, then figured out the basic setup in the spring.

17116

At that point it was time to go sailing. Project on hold until last week. We got the top made and tested the mounting.

17117

17118

Next step is attaching the top to the bows and adding the tie-downs.

rbgarr
06-05-2018, 03:27 PM
"Bow-locks": http://www.peluke.com/marine-hardware/bow-locks/

dktyson
06-06-2018, 05:01 AM
Very nice Jim! Excellent way to keep the crew happy...

Thorne
06-12-2018, 08:38 AM
You can also use them to mount rear-....or is it front-view mirrors on pulling boats. Works great and has certainly saved my a dunking or worse when rowing the snag-filled stretches of the Upper Napa and parts of the Sacramento rivers.

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rgthom
06-13-2018, 09:58 AM
Ain't it funny how time slips away. Not funny, actually, but more than a little scary.

Back to my January 2017 project of copying Rick's bimini. I actually laminated the bows back in early 2017, then figured out the basic setup in the spring.

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At that point it was time to go sailing. Project on hold until last week. We got the top made and tested the mounting.

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Next step is attaching the top to the bows and adding the tie-downs.
Very cool Jim! I can't believe you actually made this, it looks great. I see you are using the same binder clips as I did to test the cover fit, too funny.

For permanent attachment of the cover, I would recommend either screws with load spreading washers (mine has #6 flat head SS and nylon finishing washers), or snaps. Start installing at the center on each bow, work outward to keep even tension on the fabric.

Oldad
06-13-2018, 01:45 PM
You can also use them to mount rear-....or is it front-view mirrors on pulling boats. Works great and has certainly saved my a dunking or worse when rowing the snag-filled stretches of the Upper Napa and parts of the Sacramento rivers.

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I will certainly copy this idea, thanks Thorne

halfnelson
06-13-2018, 02:02 PM
They are sockets to hold various stuff possibly including oarlocks.

Jim.Montana
06-25-2018, 11:48 PM
"Bow-locks": http://www.peluke.com/marine-hardware/bow-locks/

Can't believe I didn't make a couple more bows while I had the forms set up for the bimini bows. I over-wintered Rumsey in the yard last winter and was constantly out there "helping" the snow to slide off the canvas stretched over the mast. Bow-locks would have saved me a lot of trouble. Looks like a good late Fall project.

Jim.Montana
06-25-2018, 11:56 PM
You can also use them to mount rear-....or is it front-view mirrors on pulling boats. Works great and has certainly saved my a dunking or worse when rowing the snag-filled stretches of the Upper Napa and parts of the Sacramento rivers.

Another idea I'll be copying, although I may have to use a different mount for the mirror as I normally row from the rear rowing station. Constantly looking over my shoulder gives me a bad neck. I'm also looking for a compass to mount on a bean-bag, so I can use it for sailing and then throw it on a rear seat when rowing to help me maintain a heading.

Jim.Montana
06-26-2018, 12:11 AM
Very cool Jim! I can't believe you actually made this, it looks great. I see you are using the same binder clips as I did to test the cover fit, too funny.

For permanent attachment of the cover, I would recommend either screws with load spreading washers (mine has #6 flat head SS and nylon finishing washers), or snaps. Start installing at the center on each bow, work outward to keep even tension on the fabric.

Almost done now and anxious to test it with a shady lunch (or maybe a nap) out on the water. As you suggested, we used flat head screws and finishing washers to attach - about three inches apart. Worked great. We have one problem to overcome. In order to make it fully collapsible, we used hinged joints at the connection between the supports and bows. These allow too much flex, causing the bows to stand more vertical than I would like due the tension between the front and rear bows. I've got a solution in mind, which will have to wait until we return home to Montana from a several week visit to our kids in Portland and Seattle. At that point I'll update with some pics of the finished product.

Jim.Montana
06-28-2018, 11:39 AM
You guys in Montana, Maine, or the PNW may find no use for this... but on the Chesapeake in the Summer, we like to heave-to and swim on a hot day. Climbing back in using my rope ladder doesn't work too well for anyone over 25, so I made this oarlock socket mounting swim ladder.

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Next project is Kent's swim ladder - hoping to get it done before a week-long family camp to take place in late August. So Kent - any advice before I get started? Upgrades, modifications? Better yet - detailed plans?

dktyson
06-30-2018, 09:06 AM
Hey Jim, I've been happy with the design and haven't upgraded anything. It's a bit heavy, but stows under the grates (first edition was a little too wide and had to be cut down so it would stow). Of course the size and weight don't matter that much since I only carry it when we intend to swim.

I'd be happy to take more detailed pictures- I can also trace the side rails onto a large sheet of paper and snail-mail it to you if you give me your address. Does Montana have mail service yet?... You might need some adjustment for the lapstrake. The side rails are laminated with 2 layers of 1/2" ply.

Jim.Montana
07-01-2018, 10:13 AM
Does Montana have mail service yet?...

Yep - about once a month I hitch up the team and head in to the general store for a wagonload of provisions and to pick up whatever U. S. Mail Ellie Mae has been storing behind the counter for me.

Thanks for the offer to trace the side rail, Kent; I'd appreciate it - save me some trial and error time, and it looks like you've got the proportions right. I'll email you my address. It happens that I have quite a bit of 1/2 inch ply left over from the centerboard trunk construction.

Jim.Montana
07-07-2018, 11:42 PM
Done - finally! (actually I still have to oil the supports, but that will come later)

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Thanks much to Rick for the design idea and advice. Heading out tomorrow for 10 days on our local Canyon Ferry Lake, and it is supposed to be sunny and hot. Hoping for several siestas, a few lunches, and maybe a couple beers in the shade of the new bimini.

Thorne
05-25-2019, 09:54 PM
I have several small artillery pieces, but have only mounted and fired the smaller brass gun on Goblin...so far. The base is 3/4" pipe so far too big to fit into an oarlock, plus the shock when firing even blanks is pretty significant -- so my mount is backed by a white oak block underneath.

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