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jack grebe
11-15-2016, 04:00 PM
And as the conservative republican you all know I am..... I didn't Vote Trump either, so we do have some commonground.Please come home.

Gerarddm
11-15-2016, 04:14 PM
Sorry, too busy building a bunker to survive the coming apocalypse now.

bobbys
11-15-2016, 04:20 PM
And as the conservative republican you all know I am..... I didn't Vote Trump either, so we do have some commonground.Please come home.
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you did not vote Trump?.

Thats it you are getting the cheap Easter card from me.

John of Phoenix
11-15-2016, 04:21 PM
Rock on grebe.

bobbys
11-15-2016, 04:23 PM
When you lost Captain Spaulding.......

jack grebe
11-15-2016, 04:31 PM
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you did not vote Trump?.

Thats it you are getting the cheap Easter card from me.

Just please stop sending the porno ones, my wife hates them.

bobbys
11-15-2016, 04:34 PM
Just please stop sending the porno ones, my wife hates them.
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Those were not Pornos those were Hillarys invitations to the balls..

GEEZ!

ahp
11-15-2016, 07:10 PM
We are keeping quiet and waiting to see what happens.

TomF
11-15-2016, 07:18 PM
Just gotta see how this unravels, Jack. A lot of us are in shock. Not so much at the loss, speaking for myself, but at the embrace of the alt.right even after their votes were bagged on the 8th. The walking back of the promises and lies chanted in his rallies, to no discernable response from the Rons and Daniels who really truuuuuly believed that crooked Hillary was gonna be locked up. Today, she's a "good, decent person".

Lies are truth, war is peace. Orwell wasn't half prescient. And as we've read here, "who cares"?

We'll be back, but it's scary what you see when the curtain is pulled back.

bobbys
11-15-2016, 07:24 PM
Just gotta see how this unravels, Jack. A lot of us are in shock. Not so much at the loss, speaking for myself, but at the embrace of the alt.right even after their votes were bagged on the 8th. The walking back of the promises and lies chanted in his rallies, to no discernable response from the Rons and Daniels who really truuuuuly believed that crooked Hillary was gonna be locked up. Today, she's a "good, decent person".

Lies are truth, war is peace. Orwell wasn't half prescient. And as we've read here, "who cares"?

We'll be back, but it's scary what you see when the curtain is pulled back..

Please Throw out Yer crystal ball.. It has a malfunction.

Mine sez America will be great again..

TomF
11-15-2016, 07:36 PM
Mine sez the suicide rate is gonna climb. But that some are gonna be great with that, and through their rhetoric are gonna try to help cleanse the place of...

Stay on your own side of the border

johnw
11-15-2016, 07:37 PM
Wait, I went missing?

Landrith
11-15-2016, 07:39 PM
Hillary wasn't the Left and Trump is not a conservative. And everyone will appear to be nicey nicey until Trump takes office if he does. Then he might actually do something against globalist big war Imperialism and then the tv pretend Leftists will really scream racism and murder because Trump stopped drone bombing village weddings or whatever else the warmonger corporations that own 4 of the 6 big media conglomerates and fund the crisis actor protestors think they have to have America doing to advance their global enslavement agenda.

skuthorp
11-15-2016, 07:44 PM
"Hillary wasn't the Left and Trump is not a conservative."
Well I do agree with that Landrith.

As for "until Trump takes office if he does" short of death he will, but as for the rest, you sound like the rump Trotskyite left that has a couple of hundred members in Aus, half of which are security plants.

jack grebe
11-15-2016, 07:44 PM
Tom, feel free to add to your ignore as you see fit.

I can already see mine is gonna grow too.

jack grebe
11-15-2016, 07:46 PM
"Hillary wasn't the Left and Trump is not a conservative."
Well I do agree with that Landrith.

As for "until Trump takes office if he does" short of death he will, but as for the rest, you sound like the rump Trotskyite left that has a couple of hundred members in Aus, half of which are security plants.

And that is why I didn't Vote for him.

TomF
11-15-2016, 07:48 PM
Tom, feel free to add to your ignore as you see fit.

I can already see mine is gonna grow too.

Yeah, I've never been too good with those things. Prefer to see what they write, knowing the opponent.

But I may easily slow down the pace. I really didn't like how this season has acted on me.

Hallam
11-15-2016, 07:50 PM
America will be Great Again?
This statement needs unpacking doesnt it? It obviously means different things to different interest groups among Trump backers.
What Trump means may well be an entirely different scenario from what many hope for. Early indicators will be how he stacks his team, then we can sit back and watch it all unfold.......how Congress plays the game.... which lobbyists get a look in...which swamp dwellers are deemed unfavourable will go down the drain while favoured swamp dwellers get the free ride?

SMARTINSEN
11-15-2016, 09:11 PM
until Trump takes office if he does.

Care to expand upon that?

David G
11-15-2016, 09:14 PM
You miss me? Well... all I can say is - I didn't hear a thing. Are you sure you were firing in my direction??? <G>

Vince Brennan
11-15-2016, 09:19 PM
I really didn't like how this season has acted on me.And on that point I can fully agree with you. I think a vacation is in order for me.

bobbys
11-15-2016, 09:54 PM
Mine sez the suicide rate is gonna climb. But that some are gonna be great with that, and through their rhetoric are gonna try to help cleanse the place of...

Stay on your own side of the border.
I have no idea who you think is committing suicide nor who is going to be great with that nor who wants to cleanse who and why..

i slso had had no idea you spoke for everyone on that side of the border nor who made you boss .

Lew Barrett
11-15-2016, 09:58 PM
I took a vacation. Landrith, do you think the drone war will stop now that Trump is in? Not if Bolton or Giuliani are picked for SOS. It's interesting to go back and review what has transpired since Bolton spoke to this issue.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__jVRnmmHJs

Landrith
11-15-2016, 10:25 PM
Us anti humans on the Alt Right are of course seeing the possibility of Bolton as a sell out to the criminal Bush establishment. I am sure Bolton would stop drone attacks of villages for the sole purpose of better Napalm and carpet bombing. If Bolton is made Secretary of State , Trump should just go ahead and make Victoria Nuland Ambassador to the UN and invade Belarus or whatever else the Obama Neocon Kagan brothers had planned with Soros.

I said it before. Beg Colin Powell to come back for two years. Promise him a cherry P1800 or a low milage 544 and I know he'll do it.

TomF
11-15-2016, 10:32 PM
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I have no idea who you think is committing suicide nor who is going to be great with that nor who wants to cleanse who and why..

i slso had had no idea you spoke for everyone on that side of the border nor who made you boss .I figure that the suicide rate (already pretty darned spectacular) among LGBTQ people is likely to take a nice tick upwards, and that the same may easily happen among women who've been victims of abuse, Muslim young people, and a few other minorities who've been kinda prominent in some of Trump's multitudinous stump speeches ... to say nothing of some of Brannon's headlines and stories over at Breitbart.

Bear in mind that these folks are already at a higher risk than most for self-harm of various descriptions, as a casual saunter through the research literature will show. Declaring something of an "open season" on expressing especially nasty comments and attitudes towards them ... to say nothing of the outright bullying being captured on various news reports ... will have an impact. Hooray for the death of political correctness, eh? Glad to see that there's an upside. ;)

I surely don't speak for everyone on my side of the border. But if you're gonna promote the Trump/Bannon school of speech and civility, you'd best stay away from me.

Lew Barrett
11-15-2016, 11:22 PM
Us anti humans on the Alt Right are of course seeing the possibility of Bolton as a sell out to the criminal Bush establishment. I am sure Bolton would stop drone attacks of villages for the sole purpose of better Napalm and carpet bombing. If Bolton is made Secretary of State , Trump should just go ahead and make Victoria Nuland Ambassador to the UN and invade Belarus or whatever else the Obama Neocon Kagan brothers had planned with Soros.

I said it before. Beg Colin Powell to come back for two years. Promise him a cherry P1800 or a low milage 544 and I know he'll do it.

Let's say we dislike most of the ideas and many of the associations that we progs associate with the alt right. I think Powell tried working with the neocons before and found it not to his taste. As for the neocons and the progs, we disavow them now, we disavowed them then. Who do you classify as a neocon that is a Democrat? Are you guessing the big tent has room for them?

Landrith
11-15-2016, 11:35 PM
We just went off Defcon Level 3 for the Democrat Administration and Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland using 5 Billion Dollars to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine that included killing citizens to provoke civil unrest:

"How and Why the U.S. Government Aided a Coup Led by Neo-Nazis in Ukraine

Why U.S. imperialism continues to target Russia

By Brian Becker
Global Research, March 05, 2014
LiberationNews.org
Region: Europe, Russia and FSU
In-depth Report: UKRAINE REPORT
print 2654
175 18 6522
Neonazis Ukraine
The people of the United States are being deliberately misled and misinformed about the leading role played by the U.S. State Department, intelligence agencies and neoconservative leaders in bringing neo-Nazis to power in Ukraine.

The same neoconservative politicians and strategists that drove the country to war against Iraq in 2003, against Libya in 2011 and nearly against Syria in 2013 have been neck-deep in a protracted regime change effort in Ukraine as part of a larger geo-strategic struggle against Russia. The fact that they have worked hand in glove with armed neo-Nazis in Ukraine—with Sen. John McCain and Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland literally joining the protests—speaks volumes about the political nature of the events.

The Maidan protest movement was launched in Kiev in November 2013 when Ukrainian President Yanukovych rejected a European Union economic plan that would have imposed a harsh austerity regime on Ukraine as the price for admission into the economic sphere dominated by German banks. The U.S. and E.U.-backed street protests, supported most fervently by neoconservative elements inside and outside the Obama administration, began when Yanukovych instead accepted a $15 billion loan from Russia and an economic plan that did not require austerity measures but did include discounted prices for Russian natural gas..."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-aided-a-coup-led-by-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/5371940

Then there was Egypt, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Nigeria, Kenya...

"The original color revolutions were conducted against countries abroad to bring them into line with globalist strategies as promoted via American power. US intelligence agencies, the Pentagon and other internationalist facilities domestically and abroad were utilized.

It could be that the same coalition is now at work inside of the US. While this “color revolution” may be led by Soros and even partially funded by him, it may be a large effort is underway that includes elements of the US “shadow government.”"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/anti-trump-us-color-revolution-includes-soros-and-clinton-‘purple’-takeover-0

Paul Pless
11-16-2016, 08:56 AM
And as the conservative republican you all know I am..... I didn't Vote Trump either, so we do have some commonground.Please come home.fart

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-16-2016, 09:18 AM
This is my third time round these particular traps.

The common factor is the disgraceful irresponsibility of Mark Zuckerberg. And I kid you not.

First Faceook election: May 9th, the Philippines. Roderigo Duterte elected President, with a sea of fake news sites and troll personae on Facebook - his supporters paid off the team leaders at call centers to offer their teams extra cash for a little political work in office hours using their employers bandwidth... incidentally some of these same people were and are doing the same for Trump...

Second Facebook election - the British "Brexit" referendum - June 23rd - same story - endless fake news sites and troll armies...

Third Facebook election - the one you all know about...

The world is going to Hell, and no I don't mean Pless's home town, paved not with good intentions but with the greed and irresponsibility of a sucessful nerd...

biga
11-16-2016, 09:31 AM
you think mark zukerberg tried to get trump elected? WOW.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-16-2016, 09:39 AM
you think mark zukerberg tried to get trump elected? WOW.

No, of course I don't.

I am saying that his disgraceful irresponsibility in insisting that - and I quote - "Facebook is a tech company not a media company" and his utter failure to police his system in respect of "fake news" - which is VERY widely believed by the less "tecchie" people who actually comprise most voters - simply because it would cost him money to employ people do so, whereas simply blocking porn can be done by computers, has allowed Trump, and Duterte, and the Brexit fascists, to win elections that they would otherwise have lost.

I wrote about this here:

http://splash247.com/farewell-gutenberg-galaxy-hello-zuckerberg-zoo/

Paul Pless
11-16-2016, 09:40 AM
No, of course I don't.

I am saying that his disgraceful irresponsibility in insisting that - and I quote - "Facebook is a tech company not a media company" and his utter failure to police his system in respect of "fake news" - which is VERY widely believed by the less "tecchie" people who actually comprise most voters - simply because it would cost him money to employ people do so, whereas simply blocking porn can be done by computers, has allowed Trump, and Duterte, and the Brexit fascists, to win elections that they would otherwise have lost.

I wrote about this here:

http://splash247.com/farewell-gutenberg-galaxy-hello-zuckerberg-zoo/

Should scot police the bilge in the manner in which you're suggesting Zuckerberg should have?

biga
11-16-2016, 09:43 AM
No, of course I don't.

I am saying that his disgraceful irresponsibility in insisting that - and I quote - "Facebook is a tech company not a media company" and his utter failure to police his system in respect of "fake news" - which is VERY widely believed by the less "tecchie" people who actually comprise most voters - simply because it would cost him money to employ people do so, whereas simply blocking porn can be done by computers, has allowed Trump, and Duterte, and the Brexit fascists, to win elections that they would otherwise have lost.

I wrote about this here:

http://splash247.com/farewell-gutenberg-galaxy-hello-zuckerberg-zoo/




so he should have censored his users' free speech if it didn't go in line with your political views?

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-16-2016, 09:52 AM
so he should have censored his users' free speech if it didn't go in line with your political views?

He should have admitted that he runs a media business, and required what the serious media require - fact checking.

I do not object to people with different views provided they operate within constitutional norms; I object to the propagation of deliberate lies calculated to mis-inform and to inflame the passions of those who are unable to assess the facts objectively.

To illustrate, in my own country I do not object to people saying that we should " leave Europe"; I do object to Nigel Farage calling a march of 100,000 to the Supreme Court because the Supremes might insist that the Constitution requires a vote in Parliament.

John of Phoenix
11-16-2016, 10:06 AM
He should have admitted that he runs a media business, and required what the serious media require - fact checking. We are well into the post-truth era. Fact checking is is totally passť. Surely fox, limbaugh, breitbart, etc. have proven that.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-16-2016, 10:29 AM
We are well into the post-truth era. Fact checking is is totally passť.

Fact checking is a costly, difficult, process.

It was done, not for fun, but because the Old Media thought that the way to attract advertising revenue was to attract a wider readership and the way to attract that wider readership was to gain a reputation for conveying the news as accurately as possible.

The shock jocks of "talk radio" gave the lie to that idea, by telling lies to audiences who were comforted by hearing those lies on the radio. The audiences grew and advertisers found that they could reach that market, if it was their target, accurately at less expense.

The idea was taken much further by Google and then by Facebook, who developed ways of identifying consumers and targeting advertising at them.

This has the side effect of raising the walls of the silos in which people do their thinking. The WBF, because WB's target market is in no way determined politically, may be one of the few places where the two "sides" can "meet"..