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McMike
11-10-2016, 07:36 PM
Since our new president couldn't be bothered to pay taxes for god knows how long, why should I.

Is there a mechanism by which I can legally withhold my federal taxes under protest? Lets get creative. I refuse to pay for any wars he starts, I refuse to fund a government that abandons it's people.

Bobcat
11-10-2016, 07:51 PM
Yes there is a war tax protest movement that has been going on for decades:

War tax resistance is the refusal to pay some or all taxes that pay for war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War) and a form of nonviolent resistance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance). War tax resistance may be practiced by conscientious objectors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector), pacifists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism), or those protesting against a particular war. As a percentage of income tax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax) funds military expenditure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_expenditure), war tax resisters may avoid or refuse to pay some or all income tax. For example, war resisters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_resister) may choose to avoid taxes by living simply (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_living) below the income tax threshold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_threshold).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_resistance#cite_note-NWTRCC-2)
Tax resisters are distinct from tax protesters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_%28United_States%29) who deny that the legal obligation to pay taxes exists or applies. Tax resisters may accept that some law commands them to pay taxes but they still choose to resist taxation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_resistance




One of my brothers is a pacifist and has been a war tax protester for years. (Don't know if he is still is) He refuses to pay for the Defense Department. The IRS generally garnishes his savings account and takes the money owed. He does not resist the collection action by the IRS, but refuses to pay that portion voluntarily. He makes sure there is enough in the account to cover the taxes.

McMike
11-10-2016, 07:56 PM
He pays more taxes in one minute , then you do in a year, figure it out instead of looking like a very uninformed liberal.

In fact that may be every second..

On his income? He does not.

McMike
11-10-2016, 07:59 PM
Yes there is a war tax protest movement that has been going on for decades:

War tax resistance is the refusal to pay some or all taxes that pay for war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War) and a form of nonviolent resistance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance). War tax resistance may be practiced by conscientious objectors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector), pacifists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism), or those protesting against a particular war. As a percentage of income tax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax) funds military expenditure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_expenditure), war tax resisters may avoid or refuse to pay some or all income tax. For example, war resisters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_resister) may choose to avoid taxes by living simply (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_living) below the income tax threshold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_threshold).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_resistance#cite_note-NWTRCC-2)
Tax resisters are distinct from tax protesters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_%28United_States%29) who deny that the legal obligation to pay taxes exists or applies. Tax resisters may accept that some law commands them to pay taxes but they still choose to resist taxation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_resistance




One of my brothers is a pacifist and has been a war tax protester for years. (Don't know if he is still is) He refuses to pay for the Defense Department. The IRS generally garnishes his savings account and takes the money owed. He does not resist the collection action by the IRS, but refuses to pay that portion voluntarily. He makes sure there is enough in the account to cover the taxes.

I don't want him to get my money at all but I like my freedom. Can I write off my personal losses that resulted from the great recession? I'm thinking, since corporations are now considered people, people should be considered corporations and be able to write off losses.

McMike
11-10-2016, 08:02 PM
Do you know that to be a fact, or are you just repeating left wing democrit talking points ?

Didn't he say so himself? Did we get to see his tax returns?


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-im-smart-for-paying-no-taxes/vp-BBwFZZ0

genglandoh
11-10-2016, 08:14 PM
Where do you get this stuff?
We do not know how much income taxes Trump has paid over the years.
When the information is released we will see.
Please do not confuse a companies income with an individuals income.

McMike
11-10-2016, 08:17 PM
Where do you get this stuff?
We do not know how much income taxes Trump has paid over the years.
When the information is released we will see.
Please do not confuse a companies income with an individuals income.

LOL, arn't you a piece of work. LOLOLolololl :}

McMike
11-10-2016, 08:18 PM
MSM what a joke......Why should you get to see his taxes, they are personal and none of your business....

Why should you get to see Clinton's emails, they are personal and none of your business.

McMike
11-10-2016, 08:22 PM
Wrong.......during her term as secretary all of her communications belong to the government.....

But not to you ;)

Looks like Gullani was hedging around sending her to jail. First promise broken?

ccmanuals
11-10-2016, 08:25 PM
Wrong.......during her term as secretary all of her communications belong to the government.....

Wrong. Gov't workers do not give up their right to privacy.

paulf
11-10-2016, 08:29 PM
But not to you ;)

Looks like Gullani was hedging around sending her to jail. First promise broken?

Mike, We will explore Mr Trump in detail here over the next few months, Remember to give Mr Trump all the respect that was offered to Mr Obama over the last...8 years, thank you.

paulf
11-10-2016, 08:32 PM
Wrong.......during her term as secretary all of her communications belong to the government.....

Indeed they do! So do the all the communications from Rice and Powell and ...others. Perhaps Cheney?

Breakaway
11-10-2016, 08:33 PM
Wrong. Gov't workers do not give up their right to privacy


Well, they sorta do....


State Department guidelines say there is “no expectation of privacy” for personal emails sent by government employees on a department email system. “No one creating records on an official government network has an individual ‘privacy right’ to demand that their emails or e-records should be shielded beyond the reach of public access requests under FOI [Freedom of Information] laws, state or federal,” Jason R. Baron, (http://www.drinkerbiddle.com/people/attorneys/baron-jason-r) a lawyer at Drinker Biddle and a former director of litigation (http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2011/nr11-181.html)at the National Archives, told us in an email.

Link: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/clintons-email-and-the-privacy-privilege/

McMike
11-10-2016, 08:33 PM
Mike, We will explore Mr Trump in detail here over the next few months, Remember to give Mr Trump all the respect that was offered to Mr Obama over the last...8 years, thank you.

Which is exactly why his is not my president.

McMike
11-10-2016, 08:36 PM
I look forward to seeing every one of Trumps emails while he's in office. :)

paulf
11-10-2016, 08:40 PM
Absolutely, all of their communications while serving............so why didn't berry do something about it ? Instead he engaged in the same activity, oh yes he did, he e-mailed hillary and knew she had a private server and then lied about it, saying he didn't know on national T.V.

Hell Congress has some power ...why didn't they?? Perhaps they had...zip diddly squat..or not even that. They spent a lot of Tax payer money on...nothing..GOOD JOB ELECTED OFFICIALS!!

Gotta go to an appointment Have a great evening folks! rather you like it or not...

ccmanuals
11-10-2016, 08:59 PM
Well, they sorta do....


State Department guidelines say there is “no expectation of privacy” for personal emails sent by government employees on a department email system. “No one creating records on an official government network has an individual ‘privacy right’ to demand that their emails or e-records should be shielded beyond the reach of public access requests under FOI [Freedom of Information] laws, state or federal,” Jason R. Baron, (http://www.drinkerbiddle.com/people/attorneys/baron-jason-r) a lawyer at Drinker Biddle and a former director of litigation (http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2011/nr11-181.html)at the National Archives, told us in an email.

Link: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/clintons-email-and-the-privacy-privilege/

It is much more complicated than that.

http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/detail/gmailgov-when-politics-gets-personal-does-the-public-have-a-right-to-know

Waddie
11-10-2016, 10:03 PM
Wrong. Gov't workers do not give up their right to privacy.


Yes they do, while on the job and conducting government business. You may be surprised to learn that you have no right to privacy on your job, either. If you are using a company computer, your employer can read anything you write.

regards,
Waddie