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06-18-2003, 06:04 PM
It's NOT a wooden boat!
At least not according the owner/builder.
So did the editors put it on the cover just to mess with him? smile.gif
Neat boat BTW.
Especially the proportioning rig between the main and the jib!
06-18-2003, 06:19 PM
What boat are you refering to??
06-18-2003, 06:32 PM
I liked the cover, the boat and the article. It looks like a blast to sail that thing. I thought there was enough wood in it to qualify as a wooden boat, or at least a wood/composite boat.
06-18-2003, 06:57 PM
Yeah, looks like it'd be a blast and would kick butt if you could keep the wet side down. I rather imagined myself taking a swim or three.
I also recall the mention of shudder boo boo hiss hiss (traditionalists get out your pitch and tar) carbon fiber :D tongue.gif tongue.gif :D
06-18-2003, 07:21 PM
"While we are interested in a program of inquiry related to wooden boats only, it is by no means our purpose to deny or descredit any other boat building methods or materials, nor to appear fanatical about the use of wood". - Jon Wilson, Vol.1, Issue 1, Sept/Oct 1974, page 2.
06-18-2003, 09:46 PM
Is it really that much less "wooden" than say one of the W76's?
It's wood enough for me... And would I go for a sail on it? You betcha!
06-18-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by John Bell:
Is it really that much less "wooden" than say one of the W76's?Good point. And it's a lot more fun and less expensive than a W76.
06-18-2003, 09:50 PM
Yea, Paul, but when Jon Wilson wrote that in issue one, he wasn't sure there'd ever be an issue two and was trying to hedge his bets! LOL Little did he know at the time there were so many TRADITIONAL WOODEN BOAT FANATICS out there. We made him a rich man... or at least a very successful specialty magazine publisher. Had he put his faith in the circulation stats for the National Fisherman, he might have been less equivocal about traditional wooden boats. Obviously, he didn't call his magazine, "Everything-but-plastic-and-metalBoat," did he? LOL
06-19-2003, 12:16 AM
Alright, I'll bite.( thinking this is going to be another gronicle type thread) ;)
What boat are you talking about. Not the Buzzards Bay 25 ?
06-19-2003, 01:04 AM
No issue #173 is in.The cover has a sleak looking "high performance skiff built from cedar strips,exotic clothes,and epoxy."It looks like a wide sailboard with a bow sprit.Just enough to wet your thirst..patience... smile.gif
[ 06-19-2003, 01:07 AM: Message edited by: R.I.Singer30 ]
06-19-2003, 01:42 AM
I reinforce some parts of my wooden boats with more wood, some with metal ( chainplates and other very high point loadings) some with fibreglass, some with carbon fibre, sometimes I coat the whole boat with a load bearing skin, might be another layer or two of wood at an angle, might be a layer of vectran for abrasion resistance, might be glass for strength, I glass tape seams, I use carbon for tension members and keels, I use carbon to spread loads, and if I could afford it I'd use the stuff to cover the soft and vulnerable wooden core as well.
Are they wooden boats? Depends upon your point of view. Me? I dont much care, the difference between a wooden boat that uses metal fastenings (remember trunnells)and a wood cored carbon sheathed hull is only one of degree or evolution .
06-19-2003, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by Ironmule:
The Post Office hasn't brought it to North Georgia yet, and I don't know what anyone is talking about. :(
ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The cover photo is a wood strip single handed trapeze skiff, similar in concept to the 49er.
06-19-2003, 02:54 PM
This will never get settled.
I note that WB isn't named
"Traditional WoodenBoat, AD1500-ish to 1965."
If'n it bothers you, but doesn't frighten the horses, don't look.
We seem to have quite enough heretic hunting going on in this tired old world.
06-19-2003, 03:12 PM
Funny you should mention getting out the pitch and tar... guess what is the raw material for one of the industrial processes for making carbon fiber! yup, pitch.
I am not even a little bit bothered by calling a cedar strip/composite boat a wooden boat. What is wood after all but a very effective composite of cellulose fibers in a matrix of lignin. The use of modern composites and polymers to augment a wooden stucture is just another option in material selection that in my mind is totally in keeping with the continuum of the boatbuilding art from dugout canoes to carvel planked fishing hulls to ocean racing yachts.
06-19-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by pjwalsh:
Funny you should mention getting out the pitch and tar... guess what is the raw material for one of the industrial processes for making carbon fiber! yup, pitch.Now that I didn't know. LOL
I think it's funny that the designer/builder says that. But then puts the carbon fiber on the inside so people can see the clear fiberglassed sheathed wood!
I wish him the best of luck.
Love to see them at the next Olympics. smile.gif
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