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David G
10-02-2016, 05:01 PM
Stolen from my favorite minister. Forging covenants. Breaking covenants. The hope for 'right relationship' --

http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=a98bcfe4799d83a8e077065d0&id=9c854144db

skuthorp
10-02-2016, 05:06 PM
Sounds wonderful, works on a family level………mostly.
Humans have never been like that unless there was incentive to conform, or disincentive not to. Fear in other words. Humans no longer fear a god, only other humans.

skuthorp
10-02-2016, 07:51 PM
I thought he had miss spelt 'savants'.

bob winter
10-02-2016, 10:28 PM
Any comment I could make could be construed as anti-religious. It's all claptrap.

David G
10-02-2016, 11:41 PM
Forget my silly spelling error... what about the concepts?

Bob - one can be a non-Christian, or any sort of 'non-believer' and still be interested in moral relationship. If you can't get past the religious trappings... I'm sorry.

bobbys
10-03-2016, 12:03 AM
God made a coventant with the Hebrews the land of Israel will be the homeland..

He kept his promise.

jsjpd1
10-03-2016, 12:29 AM
When you move bilge threads around would you be so kind as to not move them to building and repair?

Thanks

skuthorp
10-03-2016, 01:43 AM
God made a coventant with the Hebrews the land of Israel will be the homeland..

He kept his promise.
A work in progress I'd say……...

bobbys
10-03-2016, 03:02 AM
I liked it but she blames our sins on destroyed habitat, fouled skies, police killings, we rape and the rich.

A new age salad of sins.

In reality our sins are 50 million aborted babies, we export porn, evolution, homosexuality, . All sins the Hebrews would have been judged for , not recycling

David G
10-03-2016, 11:17 AM
When you move bilge threads around would you be so kind as to not move them to building and repair?

Thanks

Why so? Moving a thread to another section is the only way I'm aware of to correct the thread title spelling. Did it cause a disruption in the force?

TomF
10-03-2016, 11:46 AM
I'll spend a bit more time reading Her take on covenants later today - just scanned for now.

I'd make one quibble; the covenant God made in the story of the flood is one-sided only. God is reported to have made a promise of unilateral disarmament "I set my bow in the clouds, so that you may see it and I may see it. As a promise that never again will I destroy the earth." Bear in mind that the rainbow is being described as God's bow - his hunting bow, or bow for warfare. Which, at the time the story was written, was pretty much among the more dangerous weapons on a battlefield. Death at a distance, with accuracy.

In the Noah story, God's saying "I'm done with destroying the world, no matter what. I'm taking this nuclear-armed aircraft carrier, painting it in such bright colours that you can't miss seeing it, and hanging it up on the wall where it's removed from active use. So when we each see it, we'll each remember that I won't ever use it. You guys are safe, at least on that score."

That is, the big contrast in the Noah story from the legal covenants elsewhere in the ancient world (and our modern one too) is that it did not involve reciprocal obligations. It involved shared benefits, but obligations only on one party ... on God.

jsjpd1
10-03-2016, 11:49 AM
It's a small thing, but it is annoying to run across Trump political threads or religious threads when perusing the latest boat related offerings. You can move threads without leaving the redirect.

David G
10-03-2016, 11:50 AM
It's a small thing, but it is annoying to run across Trump political threads or religious threads when perusing the latest boat related offerings. You can move threads without leaving the redirect.

Pardon my tech illiteracy. What was that last sentence? Do WHAT differently?

jsjpd1
10-03-2016, 12:05 PM
When you move a thread there is a redirect field with a yes check box that is checked by default. This leaves a thread in the sub forum you moved from telling everyone to go look in the bilge to find your thread. If you uncheck that box as part of moving your thread you won't leave behind a notice in B&R telling everyone to check out your political/religious thread in the bilge.

David G
10-03-2016, 12:19 PM
When you move a thread there is a redirect field with a yes check box that is checked by default. This leaves a thread in the sub forum you moved from telling everyone to go look in the bilge to find your thread. If you uncheck that box as part of moving your thread you won't leave behind a notice in B&R telling everyone to check out your political/religious thread in the bilge.

Gotcha. I think. I'll check it out next time I make such a move.

Meantime... any thoughts on 'right relationship', 'covenants', etc.?

Jim Bow
10-03-2016, 01:06 PM
Sorry, my dyslexia saw Cervantes in the header. What, no Rozinante pictures?
How 'bout Dulcinea???
http://en.geek.xyz/images/upload/2015/02/16/1411599208dd38bac30cdbbb89adf2d33fb7865a.jpg

delecta
10-03-2016, 01:16 PM
You probably can move it to the same place it was, amazing how some people think they are so smart yet......:) :) :)

David G
10-03-2016, 01:22 PM
You probably can move it to the same place it was, amazing how some people think they are so smart yet......:) :) :)

Again you fail to make a cogent distinction. I'm smart alright. No doubt. Can't help myself. But I'm also ignorant about LOTS of stuff. Not mutually exclusive, you see. You DO see... right? I mean... now that I've pointed the way. OH, crapt - BBBBBBBYS!!! Can you come over here and explain this in one-syllable words for this young fella?

delecta
10-03-2016, 01:33 PM
Dance around all you want old fella' the proof is in the pudding. :)

David G
10-03-2016, 02:02 PM
Dance around all you want old fella' the proof is in the pudding. :)

I like pudding. Do you have any chocolate coconut?

And do you have any thoughts on the topic?

jsjpd1
10-03-2016, 02:48 PM
Gotcha. I think. I'll check it out next time I make such a move.

Meantime... any thoughts on 'right relationship', 'covenants', etc.?

Although I agree with the sentiment that a relationship that can be flexible, with the ability to grow and change over time, is going to be stronger and perhaps more effective than a covenant, I thought that the assessment of where we are today as a nation was entirely too pessimistic.

bobbys
10-03-2016, 02:54 PM
Again you fail to make a cogent distinction. I'm smart alright. No doubt. Can't help myself. But I'm also ignorant about LOTS of stuff. Not mutually exclusive, you see. You DO see... right? I mean... now that I've pointed the way. OH, crapt - BBBBBBBYS!!! Can you come over here and explain this in one-syllable words for this young fella?
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Dunno ,,,I have been staring st Sophia Loren for a hour ....

I ready to dump Angelina .

David G
10-03-2016, 02:59 PM
Someone has a fickle pickle. Better read the article, oh sticky-fingered one... before you get tar all over yourself.