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ljb5
09-30-2016, 10:57 AM
Trump Goes After Ex-Miss Universe In Late Night Tweetstorm: ‘Check Out Sex Tape!' (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-alicia-machado-tweet-storm)

This guy really should not be tweeting at 3 o'clock in the morning.

Ian McColgin
09-30-2016, 11:02 AM
An appeal to yet another niche voter: porn addicts. It's a step up from the deplorables.

bobbys
09-30-2016, 11:08 AM
I do not recall any libs here mad about the release of his wife's nudi pics.

C. Ross
09-30-2016, 11:11 AM
I'm not a "lib" but I think we should go back to the days when spouses were not considered "fair game".

Were Ms. Trump's pictures "released"? I thought they were previously published in her career as a model.

ljb5
09-30-2016, 11:19 AM
I do not recall any libs here mad about the release of his wife's nudi pics.

Who released them? Not Hillary. You don't find Hillary tweeting them out at 3:30 in the morning.

The pictures were in GQ, the New York Post and came up during the primaries. Trump blamed Ted Cruz. GQ says it may have been Trump himself who released them.


I'm not a "lib" but I think we should go back to the days when spouses were not considered "fair game".

I didn't know Alicia Machado was any candidate's spouse. She's a civilian. Trump has been going after her for four days. That's unhinged.

bobbys
09-30-2016, 11:20 AM
Who released them? Not Hillary. You don't find Hillary tweeting them out at 3:30 in the morning.

The pictures were in GQ, the New York Post and came up during the primaries. Trump blamed Ted Cruz. GQ says it may have been Trump himself who released them.



I didn't know Alicia Machado was any candidate's spouse. She's a civilian. Trump has been going after her for four days. That's unhinged.
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As I said no libs were bothered about this.

bobbys
09-30-2016, 11:21 AM
I'm not a "lib" but I think we should go back to the days when spouses were not considered "fair game".

Were Ms. Trump's pictures "released"? I thought they were previously published in her career as a model..

I forgot you are the resident Conservative that has a ad hominum about Trump every day..

Excuse me.....

David G
09-30-2016, 11:25 AM
Dingleberries gotta dingle. Dingle down low. Dingle from the rooftops. Dingle late at night. Dingle all over this laaaaand.

Garret
09-30-2016, 11:32 AM
...I think we should go back to the days when spouses were not considered "fair game"...

I can completely agree with this. However, when the spouse is a past president, aren't the waters muddied a bit?

C. Ross
09-30-2016, 11:36 AM
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I forgot you are the resident Conservative that has a ad hominum about Trump every day..

Excuse me.....

Daily? I'm slipping.

Mr. Trump is not a conservative, and is rapidly eroding Conservativism.

His character is THE issue of the campaign. I shall continue to point that out.

Ian McColgin
09-30-2016, 11:36 AM
While noting that Trump is a liar, deal welsher, bankruptcy artist, and bully are indeed things one can reasonably say about, even against, Trump, such factual observations are not ad hominem argument. And ad hominem argument would be to say that the Trump Wall is a stupid idea because Trump is a serial adulterer who in court on the matter took the fifth almost four dozen times.

Which is interesting when you think about it. Adultery is not a criminal matter so why exactly did he need fifth amendment protection. How does that even come up in a civil deposition unless the answer could expose a crime?

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 11:38 AM
As I said no libs were bothered about this.How do you know? You weren't here for several months.

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 11:43 AM
Porn is porn but this? THIS is getting weird.

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/s--R4KZAi6L--/t_xlarge_l/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_75/v1454505513/a-young-ivanka-trump-strokes-her-dads-face.png

ljb5
09-30-2016, 11:45 AM
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As I said no libs were bothered about this.

I can't imagine why I should be.

She posed for the pictures.

I didn't "leak" them.

I don't know who leaked them.

I'm reasonably certain that Hillary didn't leak.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't have leaked them. But, alas, I have grown accustomed to the fact that lots of people do things without seeking my input.

Keith Wilson
09-30-2016, 11:49 AM
I was going to start another thread about his, but ljb5 beat me to it.

So the man who has a chance of being the next president of the US was apparently up at 4AM last night, sending off tweet after tweet about Ms. Alicia Machado, ex-Miss Universe, how he was justified in fat-shaming her, and what an awful person she is.

Really?? WTF!?! What kind of imbecilic juvenile *sshole gets up in the middle of the night and does this?? My son would have caught holy hell for this had he done it at age 14 - but of course he wouldn't have event dreamed of doing it; even at 14 he had VASTLY more judgement and decency. What kind of a damned lunatic would vote to put the guy who did this in the most powerful position in the US??


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Crooked Hillary was duped and used by my worst Miss U. Hillary floated her as an "angel" without checking her past, which is terrible!
4:14 AM - 30 Sep 2016

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Using Alicia M in the debate as a paragon of virtue just shows that Crooked Hillary suffers from BAD JUDGEMENT! Hillary was set up by a con.
4:19 AM - 30 Sep 2016

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrumpDid Crooked Hillary help disgusting (check out sex tape and past) Alicia M become a U.S. citizen so she could use her in the debate?
4:30 AM - 30 Sep 2016

Reaction in the Washington Monthly this morning (link (http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-is-in-meltdown-mode/)).


Donald Trump Is In Meltdown Mode
by Nancy LeTourneau

As most of us were sleeping last night, the Republican nominee for President of the United States engaged in a tweet storm about a former Miss Universe.

(see tweets above)

The debate in which Clinton mentioned Machado was Monday night. It is now Friday and Trump just managed to ensure that this is the topic we’re still going to be talking about today. That makes something that Newt Gingrich said yesterday look even more ridiculous. Newt Gingrich on Thursday called Hillary Clinton’s attack on Donald Trump for mocking former Miss Universe Alicia Machado’s weight “as false as Benghazi” and “the new Benghazi lie.”

In an interview on Sean Hannity’s radio show on Thursday, the former house speaker and current Trump adviser said, “I think as fascinating to look at how the elite media bought — this is the new Benghazi lie — what Hillary tried to set up, and what they spend apparently months preparing was an ambush that was as false as Benghazi…

“The elite media, which is Clinton, they totally identify with her, they took it hook, line, and sinker,” Gingrich continued.

I’ll grant you…it’s pretty hard to come up with the parallel between an attack on a U.S. compound in Benghazi and a candidate’s fat-shaming of a former Miss Universe. But I suspect that was not Gingrich’s intent. He merely wanted to get the word “Benghazi” inserted into the discussion.

But beyond that, he is lying when he says that this story continues because the media is obsessed with it. Everyone would have forgotten about it if Trump hadn’t done things like go on Fox and Friends on Tuesday morning and railed about how he wasn’t being given credit for fat-shaming Ms. Machado. Obviously, he STILL can’t let go of it based on his early morning twitter rampage.

Of course, Trump is also intent on talking about a former president’s sex scandals, bragging about the his role in fueling birtherism and ranting about how Monday night’s debate was rigged against him. The fact that he is completely unhinged and has zero self control is on display for the whole world to see – if they actually care to look.

As someone whose job it is to write about politics, this is – frankly – getting to be embarrassing. But it’s what is actually going on in this presidential election. Last night world leaders gathered to mark the passing of Shimon Peres and the Republican presidential nominee was tweeting about sex tapes. It really is that bad.

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 11:54 AM
What kind of a damned lunatic would vote to put the guy who did this in the most powerful position in the US?? And what will those lunatics do when he goes down in flames?

Any of our reds want to share your plans?

LeeG
09-30-2016, 11:57 AM
Btw, there is no porn sex tape. The reality TV program shows them under 3" of blankets in very poor resolution dark setting. About 1/10 the explicitness of Game of Thrones, as if any of this has any bearing on Trumps lack of popularity amongst millions of US women voters.

http://www.snopes.com/alicia-machado-adult-star/

However, the so-called "sex tape" stemming from that incident is perhaps the tamest video ever to be so termed, consisting of nothing more than some grainy, night-vision footage of a couple of covered figures writhing in a bed. And reality television being what it is, the scene the tape depicts was quite possibly staged or fabricated.

Alicia Machado did pose topless for Playboy magazine, though.

David G
09-30-2016, 12:01 PM
<underlining mine>

Of course, Trump is also intent on talking about a former president’s sex scandals, bragging about the his role in fueling birtherism and ranting about how Monday night’s debate was rigged against him. The fact that he is completely unhinged and has zero self control is on display for the whole world to see – if they actually care to look.

As someone whose job it is to write about politics, this is – frankly – getting to be embarrassing. But it’s what is actually going on in this presidential election. Last night world leaders gathered to mark the passing of Shimon Peres and the Republican presidential nominee was tweeting about sex tapes. It really is that bad.

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 12:04 PM
His character is THE issue of the campaign. I shall continue to point that out.

The defining issue of the campaign is fitness, not character. Americans don't require their Presidents to possess dewy purity.

If Bill Clinton's Presidency taught us anything, it is just that. One can have poor character in some respects and yet may still make for an excellent executive.

ljb5
09-30-2016, 12:06 PM
I think the real issue here is the incompetence of the Trump campaign.

Every campaign manager, strategist, political consultant and communications director in the world would advise their candidate not to send tweets like this at 3:30 in the morning.

So what's the problem over there? Are his campaign managers incompetent, or is he refusing to heed their advice?

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 12:07 PM
Trump is showing newt to be the moron he really is and newt, in true red tradition, doubles down on Celebrating Being Stupid.

:D LMAO :D

Norman Bernstein
09-30-2016, 12:09 PM
The defining issue of the campaign is fitness, not character. Americans don't require their Presidents to possess dewy purity.

If Bill Clinton's Presidency taught us anything, it is just that. One can have poor character in some respects and yet may still make for an excellent executive.

Hmmmm... that seems to be a justification for Donald J. Trump, but apparently NOT for Hillary Clinton.

Character is not a binary phenomenon; it's possible for people to have varying degrees of character. Any objective look at Trump will reveal a man devoid of character... Hillary Clinton has made mistakes and bad judgments in life... and for the ones being talked about, she has acknowledged them publicly.

Donald J. Trump has NEVER, from what I've been able to see, EVER acknowledged any fault of bad judgment of his own... instead, he spins it like it's an attribute. He pays no taxes? That means he's 'smart'. He bankrupted 6 companies? That's OK, because he made a lot of money from those bankruptcies. He stiffed vendors and contractors? Not his fault, he just didn't like their work.....

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 12:12 PM
He bankrupted 6 companies? Six of his OWN companies. I wonder how many OTHER companies he pushed over the cliff.

ljb5
09-30-2016, 12:12 PM
If Bill Clinton's Presidency taught us anything, it is just that. One can have poor character in some respects and yet may still make for an excellent executive.

I tend to agree, but that only make's Trump approach all the more confusing.

At 3am, he's the moral police on twitter, trying to smear Hillary with accusations against some other woman who isn't even a candidate....

During the day, his supporters are lecturing us that you can have poor character and still be an excellent executive.

That's schizophrenic.

C. Ross
09-30-2016, 12:15 PM
The defining issue of the campaign is fitness, not character. Americans don't require their Presidents to possess dewy purity.

If Bill Clinton's Presidency taught us anything, it is just that. One can have poor character in some respects and yet may still make for an excellent executive.

You're quite right. Fitness is a better word than character.

Honestly, how someone behaves privately is of little interest to me, except as an indicator of probable public actions. If someone is a philanderer I don't really care about his sex habits except it might indicate he's likely to take inappropriate risks, or have ethical lapses.

Despite bobbys insistence that I'm engaging in ad hominem attacks on Mr. Trump I'm trying not to. I think Mr. Trump is spectacularly unfit for office, his policies are wrong-headed and dangerous, and the ways he talks about people who aren't white male US citizens are mean-spirited and wrong. I will continue to write about that.

Osborne Russell
09-30-2016, 12:15 PM
Daily? I'm slipping.

Mr. Trump is not a conservative, and is rapidly eroding Conservativism.

His character is THE issue of the campaign. I shall continue to point that out.

Character is the only possible issue, if feelings trump thoughts.

CWSmith
09-30-2016, 12:17 PM
The thought of a man so lacking in impulse control being POTUS frightens me no end.

bobbys, this is not about leaks, or porn, or whatever misdirection you insist on bringing to the discussion. This is about a narcissist insisting on justifying his actions when he repeatedly shamed a woman and got called on it in the last debate. It's about character and Trump is lacking.

Osborne Russell
09-30-2016, 12:18 PM
The defining issue of the campaign is fitness, not character. Americans don't require their Presidents to possess dewy purity.

Maybe not dewy but horse-s***ty, absolutely. Got to be our guy underneath it all. One of us, purely. "Obama doesn't love me." -- Rudy Giuliani

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 12:22 PM
the way he talks about people who aren't white men

I will be interested to see whether Mr. Trump outperforms McCain and Romney among various racial and ethnic groups, and other identity groups, such as the LGBT community.

ljb5
09-30-2016, 12:24 PM
The thought of a man so lacking in impulse control being POTUS frightens me no end.

I really don't care if Alicia Machado has a sex tape or not.

What I care about is that the guy who might become President of the United States thinks that this is something he ought to be addressing on twitter at 3:30 in the morning.

http://media.cagle.com/38/2016/07/02/181502_600.jpg?c951df%5Bquote=%22system

LeeG
09-30-2016, 12:27 PM
I will be interested to see whether Mr. Trump outperforms McCain and Romney among various racial and ethnic groups, and other identity groups, such as the LGBT community.

There are polls for how he is performing with various groups compared to McCain and Romney.

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 12:32 PM
There are polls for how he is performing with various groups compared to McCain and Romney.

Let us see how the vote turns out.

Bobcat
09-30-2016, 12:44 PM
Trump is acting like an unhinged man. Nasty tweets in the wee hours of the morning? Not presidential. I would not expect this behavior from any over about 13 years of age.

Again and again, he shows his unfitness for the office he seeks

Breakaway
09-30-2016, 01:03 PM
How does that even come up in a civil deposition unless the answer could expose a crime?

I can see where it might come up in a divorce proceeding...or , most likely, attorneys simply told him that was his default answer, regardless of the question.



WTF!?! What kind of imbecilic juvenile *sshole gets up in the middle of the night and does this??



It might not be middle of the night for him. Could be first thing in the morning.

Kevin

Bobcat
09-30-2016, 01:09 PM
In a civil action, a witness can always invoke the Fifth Amendment. A civil jury is allowed to draw an inference from invoking the Fifth. A criminal jury cannot.

In Washington State, there was a case years ago in which a hotel was sold and the buyers found out it was full all the time because it was being run as a whore house. The buyer sold the seller for fraudulently hiding why the hotel was always booked. At deposition and trial, the seller invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked if prostitutes were booking the hotel rooms. The civil jury found in the seller's favor

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 01:23 PM
I think he's effectively trolling Hillary into this stuff right now, turning her Beauty Queen gambit back against her. He's talking about issues at events and she's talking about him, trying to persuade people that he's crazy. This redounds to Trump's advantage right now, as does, I think, the elite media alignment against him with so many weeks yet to go before the election. It smacks of desperation.

Bobcat
09-30-2016, 01:27 PM
I think he's effectively trolling Hillary into this stuff right now, turning her Beauty Queen gambit back against her. He's talking about issues at events and she's talking about him, trying to persuade people that he's crazy. This redounds to Trump's advantage right now, as does, I think, the elite media alignment against him with so many weeks yet to go before the election. It smacks of desperation.

Wow. Talk about delusional!

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 01:32 PM
I don't know that enough people will be motivated to vote for her on the argument that Mr. Trump is unfit. That would appear to be her gamble right now, as she is not running on policy or otherwise making a case for herself.

Garret
09-30-2016, 01:35 PM
I think he's effectively trolling Hillary into this stuff right now, turning her Beauty Queen gambit back against her. He's talking about issues at events and she's talking about him, trying to persuade people that he's crazy. This redounds to Trump's advantage right now, as does, I think, the elite media alignment against him with so many weeks yet to go before the election. It smacks of desperation.

Desperation? Hardly - it's people aghast at the concept of someone like this possibly becoming president and trying to get his supporters to see just how awful the man really is.

Keith Wilson
09-30-2016, 01:35 PM
It might not be middle of the night for him. Could be first thing in the morning.Worse yet. Who the hell gets up first thing in the morning and does that??? A fellow who obviously has ZERO impulse control does not belong behind the wheel of a truck, much less in the oval office.

Bobcat
09-30-2016, 01:36 PM
She made an excellent case for herself at the debate. Trump crumbled into incoherence, and thereby confirmed her point that he is not fit to be president.

Kind of a two for one deal for her

The polling on the debate and movement in the polls all establish that he did a face plant

Garret
09-30-2016, 01:37 PM
Like this:


The article contained some interesting stuff about the young Donald Trump. And, buried toward the end, it also referred to an incident that says something about the adult Trump, what sort of a person he is, and what kind of President he might be. In 2000, during a family dispute about the details of his father’s will, Trump, who was by then fabulously wealthy in his own right, cut off benefits from the family health plan that were paying for the medical care of his nephew’s seriously ill young son.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-sort-of-man-is-donald-trump

Someone here called him pond scum - nowhere near low enough for the man.

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 01:37 PM
Desperation? Hardly - it's people aghast at the concept of someone like this possibly becoming president and trying to get his supporters to see just how awful the man really is.

He's still closing ground in critical battlegrounds despite the widely-panned debate performance, suggesting an issues-based change mood in those states. I think we all may need to start thinking about an electoral college victory for Trump, and a popular vote victory for Mrs. Clinton. It is certainly within the realm of possibility.

Bobcat
09-30-2016, 01:44 PM
He's still closing ground in critical battlegrounds despite the widely-panned debate performance, suggesting an issues-based change mood in those states. I think we all may need to start thinking about an electoral college victory for Trump, and a popular vote victory for Mrs. Clinton. It is certainly within the realm of possibility.

Making stuff up again?

Yeadon
09-30-2016, 01:45 PM
I was going to start another thread about his, but ljb5 beat me to it.

So the man who has a chance of being the next president of the US was apparently up at 4AM last night, sending off tweet after tweet about Ms. Alicia Machado, ex-Miss Universe, how he was justified in fat-shaming her, and what an awful person she is.

Really?? WTF!?! What kind of imbecilic juvenile *sshole gets up in the middle of the night and does this?? My son would have caught holy hell for this had he done it at age 14 - but of course he wouldn't have event dreamed of doing it; even at 14 he had VASTLY more judgement and decency. What kind of a damned lunatic would vote to put the guy who did this in the most powerful position in the US??


Reaction in the Washington Monthly this morning (link (http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-is-in-meltdown-mode/)).

Trump is the ultimate bad ex-boyfriend.

Canoeyawl
09-30-2016, 01:54 PM
Like this:



http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-sort-of-man-is-donald-trump

Someone here called him pond scum - nowhere near low enough for the man.

"Trump and his siblings insisted that the will accurately reflected their father’s wishes. After the challenge, it didn’t take them long to retaliate. On March 30th, Fred III received a certified letter telling him that the medical benefits provided to his family by the Trump organization would end on May 1st. The letter prompted Fred III to return to court, this time in Nassau County, where a judge ordered the Trumps to restore the health coverage until the dispute was resolved. “I will stick to my guns,” Fred III told Evans. “I just think it was wrong. These are not warm and fuzzy people. They never even came to see William in the hospital. Our family puts the ‘fun’ in dysfunctional.” Fred III’s sister, Mary, told Evans, “William is my father’s grandson. He is as much a part of that family as anybody else. He desperately needs extra care.”

Trump, for his part, was unapologetic about his actions. “Why should we give him medical coverage?” he told Evans. When she asked him if he thought he might come across as cold-hearted, given the baby’s medical condition, he said, “I can’t help that. It’s cold when someone sues my father. Had he come to see me, things could very possibly have been much different for them.”

Ted Hoppe
09-30-2016, 02:01 PM
Trump knows things about women and understands the attraction as if moths to flames. His family has made their "yuge" fortune on selling sex and related properties. Many women are into adult videos and very salacious erotic stuff too. It could help pump his numbers and make him more interesting to females. As we all know stranger the topic the more the interest is peaked. That is the first step of seduction.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/18/women-and-porn-survey-ann-summers-sex_n_4297183.html

Keith Wilson
09-30-2016, 02:13 PM
For every woman attracted by that sort of thing there are ten, maybe twenty, who will see in Trump some abusive ex-boss, ex boyfriend, ex-teacher, ex-whatever that they're incredibly glad to be rid of, and whose reaction will be 'What an *sshole!!', or something even less polite. Not the way to win elections.

He's already ensured almost nobody named Rodriguez will vote for him, and is well on the way to making certain almost nobody named Mary (or Maria, or Marie for that matter) will vote for him either.

SB, do you honestly think that somebody who tweets that at 4AM while running for president is someone any sane person should vote for, if the alternative is better than Mao or Mussolini?

Canoeyawl
09-30-2016, 02:25 PM
Or even Miss Piggy, I'm betting she will not vote for him either.

Ted Hoppe
09-30-2016, 02:44 PM
For every woman attracted by that sort of thing there are ten, maybe twenty, who will see in Trump some abusive ex-boss, ex boyfriend, ex-teacher, ex-whatever that they're incredibly glad to be rid of, and whose reaction will be 'What an *sshole!!', or something even less polite. Not the way to win elections.


Women still respect and love this man. I suppose it is how a strong male authority figure leaves a sticky situation that matters to most women.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEmjwR0Rs20

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 02:50 PM
SB, do you honestly think that For the love of all that is sacred, will you people please stop giving credence to that troll?

C. Ross
09-30-2016, 02:50 PM
He's still closing ground in critical battlegrounds despite the widely-panned debate performance, suggesting an issues-based change mood in those states. I think we all may need to start thinking about an electoral college victory for Trump, and a popular vote victory for Mrs. Clinton. It is certainly within the realm of possibility.

I agree with you on everything but "issues based". All of his speeches nowadays are about personality (his and Ms Clinton's) and keywords that sound racist, nativist and misogynist to me. So, same old Trump.

Tom Montgomery
09-30-2016, 03:03 PM
The Latest: Trump says tweets show him ready for 3 a.m. call.


Donald Trump is defending his early-morning tweets attempting to shame a former Miss Universe, saying it shows he’d be awake for a 3 a.m. call.

Trump tweeted that, “For those few people knocking me for tweeting at three o’clock in the morning, at least you know I will be there, awake, to answer the call!”

A memorable Hillary Clinton ad in 2008 questioned whether then-rival Barack Obama was prepared to face emergencies. As a phone rang, the announcer said, “It’s 3 a.m., and your children are safe and asleep. Who do you want answering the phone?”

Trump has tried to use the ad against Clinton, accusing her of being asleep when late-night calls came in during the attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi. Clinton says she was awake all night after the attacks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-latest-trump-denies-doing-business-in-cuba/2016/09/29/8f6c3bb2-86ac-11e6-b57d-dd49277af02f_story.html

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 03:21 PM
SB, do you honestly think that somebody who tweets that at 4AM while running for president is someone any sane person should vote for, if the alternative is better than Mao or Mussolini?

A good question that some people will have to think about, I suppose. Whatever their decision, it is undeniable that it is a new political age with new rules, standards and conduct protocols. Even if Trump loses he will have changed things irrevocably, but even so, this whole business is much larger than just one outsider candidate.

John of Phoenix
09-30-2016, 03:53 PM
Needs no translation.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTEblnpvKxyMBAtik3cTINTtZxgPbnTH Yfl05DA2wCtTuG5OVQl

TomF
09-30-2016, 04:04 PM
Just wild.

This is the second really big time in this campaign that Trump has been set off on some kind of anger-bender about an individual who has somehow tripped into becoming "iconic" for him. First it was Khizr Khan at the Democratic convention, and now it's Alicia Machado.

What if the person who got Trump all apoplectic and tweeting in the wee small hours was Putin, or an ISIS leader who'd somehow got his hands on some nuclear material or an old Chinese rocket? You really want the President of the United States being the guy who can't control his id, and is liable to set out to try to get into a social media confrontation with someone who'd much rather be old school? And whose fuse is every bit as unstable?

This is nuts.

Chris Coose
09-30-2016, 04:10 PM
Really?? WTF!?! What kind of imbecilic juvenile *sshole gets up in the middle of the night and does this??

A coke addict.
He isn't going to change a thing going into the next debate. He's unable to.
I had an idea these debates could swing things but I had no idea it would be so pleasurable to watch this flame go out.

He's toast after last night. And I'm getting that from some of the hardest core RWWackjobs.

David G
09-30-2016, 04:16 PM
Maybe I've missed it. Has someone with expertise in the area actually FOUND this Alicia Machado sex tape? Does it even exist... or is it just another 'whopper' from Cheetoland?

Where's that danged McMullen when we need him for some serious research? <G>

LeeG
09-30-2016, 04:29 PM
Maybe I've missed it. Has someone with expertise in the area actually FOUND this Alicia Machado sex tape? Does it even exist... or is it just another 'whopper' from Cheetoland?

Where's that danged McMullen when we need him for some serious research? <G>

There is no "sex tape", it's a reality TV program, and if she had been a porn actress it would be irrelevant to how he views women. Good lord his wife's nude photos are more salacious, who gives a duck. He could have let this all blow over by saying something showing empathy on the whole issue but his response is attacking people he initially offended. He is that fragile.

Chris Coose
09-30-2016, 04:31 PM
This guy has a killer vendetta thing going on that has been insulated by being surrounded by yes men for decades, if not his whole life.
Now on a national stage where he isn't in control, he is naked. He resorts to primal responses. He has no practice in any other type of response.
Look who his political yes men are. Christie, Gingrich, Don King, Bobby Knight, Ted Cruz, John Bolton and maybe just a few others, Otherwise, he's on his own.

And that is exactly how he'll do it from the oval office. Petty, vengeful, obsessed but it won't be against a former beauty queen he thinks is disgusting.

Kevin T
09-30-2016, 04:48 PM
. I forgot you are the resident Conservative that has a ad hominum about Trump every day.. Excuse me.....

How in the name of great Caesar's ghost are photos that are part of a model's work output, that have been previously released years earlier, across multiple media outlets are suddenly deemed as something that is now considered an "opportunistic release" by the other side (libs). Is also being called an ad hominem attack that we now need to take responsibility for and that we also need to apologize for?

I can see now why you support Trump, you both live in some sort of parallel universe. Tell me, what's the weather like on the planet you call home? ;-)

C. Ross
09-30-2016, 04:59 PM
...it is undeniable that it is a new political age with new rules, standards and conduct protocols.

No, I don't think so. I don't see anyone else acting like Mr. Trump, do you? Who can you imagine who could emulate him? He's been honing this act for a lifetime.

And if this is a new age of personality cult is "undeniable" isn't it exactly what you've been denouncing? Isn't it anti-conservative?

Sky Blue
09-30-2016, 05:15 PM
I don't see anyone else acting like Mr. Trump

Boris Johnson
Nigel Farage
Marine Le Pen
Nicolas Sarkozy
Geert Wilders
Viktor Orban

Chris Coose
09-30-2016, 05:26 PM
No, I don't think so. I don't see anyone else acting like Mr. Trump, do you?

Paul LePage, governor of Maine. He boldly says he was Trump before Trump was Trump

Another psychotic ****bird who hates government, poor people and all minorities.

They'll eventually tear it all down, not because they are immoral but because they are stupid.

Canoeyawl
09-30-2016, 06:26 PM
I can see now why you support Trump, you both live in some sort of parallel universe. Tell me, what's the weather like on the planet you call home? ;-)

Clouds and rain, I worked there one summer.

Gerarddm
09-30-2016, 06:43 PM
#13: And he once told Howard Stern ( it's on tape ) that the first time he noticed the " really beautiful" Paris Hilton was when she was 12. As in, ' she walked into the room and I said, wow, who is that'? Eww.

Keith Wilson
10-01-2016, 08:15 AM
And amusingly enough, Donald Trump actually appeared in a Playboy soft-core porn film in 2000, although briefly, and with his clothes on. I doubt he has the qualifications for a leading role; few men do. Here's the VHS tape. (More details here (https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-softcore-porn?utm_term=.ufO4wBX3b#.ttEVl8aE2).)

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-09/30/16/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web12/sub-buzz-4816-1475268131-1.png?resize=625:463

C. Ross
10-01-2016, 09:40 AM
Boris Johnson
Nigel Farage
Marine Le Pen
Nicolas Sarkozy
Geert Wilders
Viktor Orban

Sarkozy? Non.

The others do share Mr. Trump's nationalism, nativism, and bigotry. They also share a taste for igniting resentment, fear and anger without having any answers whatsoever. The cowardly and immature scuttling away of Farage and Johnson, leaving a mess for Mom to clean up, being exhibit A.

But the people you mention come nowhere close to Trump's paranoia and narcissism, and ability to seduce the uninformed and unaware. He's truly gifted as a charlatan and scam artist.

Sky Blue
10-01-2016, 10:12 AM
Not Sarkozy

Perhaps you're not following matters in France closely enough. Sarkozy has veered to the Right in presenting himself as an alternative to FN and has already gone much further (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/11/france-must-pre-emptively-detain-all-suspected-terrorists-says-n/) than anything attributable to Trump by calling for preemptive internment of suspected terrorists present in France.

C. Ross
10-01-2016, 10:55 AM
Good God. I had not read his latest. Sad to see Sarkozy resuscitating Vichy.

I assume eventually you'll see the madness and futility of the nativist right here and in Europe.

David G
10-01-2016, 10:58 AM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14433101_10154015401761275_7025981289753716377_n.j pg?oh=4f3025d7e9eba1f1ec484d28385a9233&oe=58AC2A6E

David G
10-01-2016, 11:03 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtpdjL2UIAE2Pnu.jpg

Bobcat
10-01-2016, 11:09 AM
Wow, I agree with something Newt said....

I feel so dirty.

bobbys
10-01-2016, 11:11 AM
How else is DT going to reach the democrat base up a 3 in the basement?

C. Ross
10-01-2016, 11:17 AM
How else is DT going to reach the democrat base up a 3 in the basement?

They'll all be watching his old Playboy porno on their parents' dusty old VCRs. "Wow, DT wasn't always orange!"

Gerarddm
10-01-2016, 01:46 PM
Speaking of Playboy and Drumpf...

Can't it get any sleazier than this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-playboy_us_57efc120e4b082aad9bb9a0e?

C. Ross
10-01-2016, 02:27 PM
Can't it get any sleazier than this?

The smart money would say we haven't hit bottom yet.

But it I think this rightfully should create some concern amongst the conservative Christian voters.

B_B
10-01-2016, 03:26 PM
...

But it I think this rightfully should create some concern amongst the conservative Christian voters.
RFLMAO - the 'Christian' right have never held their own accountable.