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09-15-2016, 01:57 PM
Do you eat at:

You might want to consider to what you are giving your support.

If this news from South Africa is not shocking enough, it has recently emerged that the last female critically endangered black rhino in the Mangetti National Park (Namibia) was killed by American trophy hunter Jimmy John Liautaud, owner of the Jimmy John's sandwich franchise.

It is also being reported the rhino was also pregnant at the time.

This is just more proof of what the trophy hunting is really like, and far from the conservationists they claim to be.

Licensed to kill - MORE rhinos have been killed in legal hunts in the Eastern Cape this year than by poachers.http://www.heraldlive.co.za/licensed-kill/
NAPHA condemn immoral rhino hunt (YOU WILL NEED TO USE GOOGLE TRANSLATE) http://www.republikein.com.na/…/napha-veroordeel-immorele-r… (http://www.republikein.com.na/omgewing/napha-veroordeel-immorele-renosterjag.232297)
Napha Distances Itself From Rhino Cow Hunterhttp://allafrica.com/stories/201410230452.html

THE Namibia Professional Hunting Association this week distanced itself from a professional hunter who was involved in a hunt during which a rhino cow was shot in the Mangetti National Park a year ago.Professional hunter Peter Thormählen is no longer a member of the Namibia Professional Hunting Association (Napha), after he resigned from the organisation in 2011 in the wake of a disciplinary investigation, the chief executive officer of Napha, Dietlinde Mueller, said in a statement on Monday.

Since his resignation from Napha, the organisation's disciplinary committee has received numerous complaints against Thormählen, but the disciplinary committee cannot take any action against him, Mueller indicated.

She added that Napha “deplores the fact that time and again the image of trophy hunting is marred by reckless, irresponsible or immoral actions of a small minority of professional hunters”.

Napha was reacting to a High Court case in which Thormälen's company, Thormälen & Cochran Safaris Namibia, sued the minister of environment and tourism as a result of the shooting of the rhino cow by an American client of the company. The case was settled out of court last week.

Thormälen & Cochran Safaris Namibia was asking the court to order the minister to take all necessary steps to give effect to a contract in terms of which a client of the company was given permission to hunt a black trophy rhino. In the alternative, the company wanted the minister to pay it N$3,2 million so that it could refund its American client, sandwich take-away chain owner Jimmy John Liautaud, and cover the expenses of the hunt Thormälen had arranged for Liautaud.

Thormälen & Cochran Safaris Namibia bought the right to hunt one black rhino bull from the Ministry of Environment and Tourism for close to N$1,3 million in July last year.

However, the hunt that was subsequently arranged went horribly wrong when Liautaud, who had paid N$3 million to hunt the endangered animal, instead shot a black rhino cow in Mangetti National Park on 28 September last year. The cow was the only female black rhino in the park.

In documents filed with the High Court it was claimed that Liautaud shot the cow in a situation of sudden emergency when the animal charged at the hunting group, which was following the tracks of what was thought to be a rhino bull. The hunting group included two game wardens from the ministry, Thormälen, and a big game professional hunter. It was also claimed that the group had been informed that the rhino cow in the park kept to an area far to the east of the area where they were following tracks.

In a plea in response to the company's claim, the minister's lawyer stated that the terms of the contract between the ministry and the company were “substantially fulfilled” since the hunter who had paid to shoot a rhino bull in fact shot a rhino cow. The trophy of the shot animal is available for export as previously requested by the company, it was also stated on behalf of the minister.
Thormälen and the two game wardens from the ministry also appear to be incompetent and also to blame.

Yes let's eradicate more species.br<

Joe (SoCal)
09-15-2016, 02:05 PM
Gross food, would never eat in a fast food chain like that.

Who the hell can't make a better sammich than any chain ? It's a SANDWICH not Pate de foie gras anyone can make a sandwich.

09-15-2016, 02:36 PM
Actually, I like their subs.

That said, I'll never eat there again if this report proves true.

Joe (SoCal)
09-15-2016, 02:43 PM
This looks GROSS https://www.jimmyjohns.com/images/menu/Items/slim_1.jpg?n=2313

The only places I enjoy ordering a sammich are one of a kind places like Eataly in NYC deep in the back in a hidden sandwich stand is the most amazing salted prime rib on a fresh baked baguette drizzled with a little fresh EVOO. God I miss that place :(

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12241271_10206554339350674_722949214776151689_n.jp g?oh=f015b90460fa233327f0db8862dcbfc1&oe=588158AC

09-15-2016, 02:47 PM
Oh, that looks good! Got any soup or salad with that?

09-15-2016, 02:47 PM
In a consumerist society, all you can do is vote with your dollars.

09-15-2016, 02:55 PM
The story seems to go back to 2015 and I'm not finding much mention of the rhino being pregnant.

That said, I'll have a hard time enjoying a sandwich if I'm putting money in his pocket. There are plenty of online pictures of him with his kills including big cats. No thanks. I've eaten my last Jimmy John sub.

David W Pratt
09-16-2016, 12:26 PM
Careful with your spelling

Ian McColgin
09-16-2016, 02:38 PM
Some how, whether it's professional hunters or US gun owners, problems are always and only caused by "reckless, irresponsible or immoral actions of a small minority". [OP] Which for some reason the alleged vast majority of responsible hunters and gun owners cannot rein in.