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Paul Pless
08-18-2016, 12:41 PM
worth a political thread from me

applies only to federal prisons, but its a step in the right direction


Contracts with 13 private prisons will be reviewed and and allowed to expire over the next five years.

"They do not save substantially on costs and ... they do not maintain the same level of safety and security," Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates said explaining the decision.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37124183

Paul Pless
08-18-2016, 12:46 PM
:D:D:D

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1561F/production/_90838578_private.jpg

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1561F/production/_90838578_private.jpg

David G
08-18-2016, 12:48 PM
You just can't help yourself can you?

Drop the pretense, Paul, and join the soon to be started subforum at SA: politiholics anonymous <G>

OK... seriously... it is a big step. Let's hope it's just the first of many.

ljb5
08-18-2016, 12:54 PM
Wow, that is good news. This has been one of my biggest issues for twenty years or so. I never expected this.

Hopefully states follow suit.

Norman Bernstein
08-18-2016, 01:06 PM
It sure does destroy the right wing myth that everything is better when it's privatized.

John of Phoenix
08-18-2016, 01:33 PM
The next red in the White House will reinstate the program.

Chip-skiff
08-18-2016, 01:37 PM
Looks like Dick Cheney lost a lot of money.

Poor baby!

Canoez
08-18-2016, 01:51 PM
http://investorplace.com/2016/08/geo-group-inc-geo-corrections-corp-america-cxw-crumble-doj-crackdown/#.V7YDYjWYAwA

Back up to just over 17 from 13.04 from a high of 27.38.

Ian McColgin
08-18-2016, 02:54 PM
Super good news. Obama is the best lame duck ever.

TomF
08-18-2016, 03:00 PM
Very good news. Wonder if anyone's investigated the lobbying budgets of for-profit prisons, and the people the lobbyists set out to target.

ljb5
08-18-2016, 04:39 PM
This will probably lead to marijuana legalization all across the country.

If you take the profit motive out of locking people up, you find fewer reasons to lock people up.

Sky Blue
08-18-2016, 04:40 PM
This may mean nothing more than the federal government deciding to get back into the imprisonment business. Hillary Clinton knows all about it. Bigger government.

jack grebe
08-18-2016, 04:53 PM
Super good news. Obama is the best lame duck ever.

If you drop in a different vowel in "duck", you may come up with a pretty accurate statement

Jim Bow
08-18-2016, 04:55 PM
Sky, doesn't anything please you? Got a feeling that if world peace broke out you'd complain about job loss.

Jim Bow
08-18-2016, 04:59 PM
Even if DOJ drops private prisons, will Homeland Security do the same?
For instance:. https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/report/2015/12/18/127769/how-for-profit-companies-are-driving-immigration-detention-policies/

David G
08-18-2016, 05:00 PM
We can thank, among other folks, Mother Jones Magazine for a telling expose'. --

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/cca-private-prisons-corrections-corporation-inmates-investigation-bauer?mpweb=585-1665347-741786832

CWSmith
08-18-2016, 05:02 PM
This is great news. One more reason to vote against the GOP.

McMike
08-18-2016, 05:03 PM
Great news, now it needs to be a constitutional mandate that all prisons are non-profit.

Lew Barrett
08-18-2016, 05:06 PM
Heard that today on NPR. This is and always has been a public responsibility. The very idea of for-profit prisons always was a miserably flawed and repulsive concept. Good news, keep moving forward.

Mike V.
08-18-2016, 05:08 PM
I think for profit prisons are an abomination. Same thing for the asset forfeiture laws.

McMike
08-18-2016, 05:10 PM
This may mean nothing more than the federal government deciding to get back into the imprisonment business. Hillary Clinton knows all about it. Bigger government.

Stop being dumb.

Mike V.
08-18-2016, 05:16 PM
The US imprisons an astounding number of people, nearly 1% of the entire population. I think it is a terrible idea to make it profitable to lock people up.

David G
08-18-2016, 05:37 PM
Stop being dumb.

OH you Beautiful Dreamer, you!!!


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CWSmith
08-18-2016, 05:44 PM
Same thing for the asset forfeiture laws.

They are nothing more than sentencing without a trial. They are an egregious violation of American principles of rule of law.

Paul Pless
08-19-2016, 01:26 PM
check out this response from one private prison corporation


Issa Arnita, a spokesman for Management and Training Corporation, said the company was “disappointed” to learn about the Justice Department’s decision. “If the DOJ’s decision to end the use of contract prisons were based solely on declining inmate populations, there may be some justification, but to base this decision on cost, safety and security, and programming is wrong,” he said in a statement.

oznabrag
08-19-2016, 01:35 PM
They are nothing more than sentencing without a trial. They are an egregious violation of American principles of rule of law.

It is even worse than that.

The legal fiction used, is that the stack of cash you had on your hip is ACCUSED OF A CRIME.

You are free to go.

Tom Wilkinson
08-19-2016, 01:39 PM
check out this response from one private prison corporation

Yeah, god forbid they actually have to be efficient, secure and safe.

TomF
08-19-2016, 01:53 PM
OH you Beautiful Dreamer, you!!!


http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz7l7oGCyn1qevqqyo1_500.gifMan, the countless ways the internet has made my life better! :D

Canoez
08-19-2016, 02:00 PM
ROFLMAO, Tom!