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Paul Pless
07-09-2016, 09:44 AM
Making gaffers relevant today. . .

http://www.finot-conq.com/en/sites/dev.finot-conq.com/files/imagecache/inline_image_side_to_side/wysiwyg_imageupload/28/10.jpg

Hwyl
07-09-2016, 10:06 AM
Looks more like gunter to me. The decider for me would be whether or not it has two halyards, although I know some gaffers, notably Bob Perry designs have only one halyard.

Norman Bernstein
07-09-2016, 10:10 AM
Hmmmm... seems like a good solution for carrying a shorter mast, without sacrificing much in the way of performance. I would imagine that people who sail in waterways where there are height limitations due to bridges would like it. I can't remember, but doesn't the Intracoastal Waterway have a limitation, like 58 ft, or 65 ft, from the waterline?

Paul Pless
07-09-2016, 10:43 AM
https://vimeo.com/105739875

Norman Bernstein
07-09-2016, 10:53 AM
Ahhh, it's a little boat, so mast clearance under bridges isn't the point.

The video does illustrate another trend I've seen lately: hard chines on production fiberglass sailboats. There are a couple of brand new Beneteaus in out marina, with hard chined hulls, and cleverly painted (or gelcoat tinted) with a darker gray color below the chine.... it's a very attractive appearance, although I'm not impressed with the deck and cabintop design, which are too 'futuristic' for my tastes.

Paul Pless
07-09-2016, 10:54 AM
Looks more like gunter to me. The decider for me would be whether or not it has two halyards, although I know some gaffers, notably Bob Perry designs have only one halyard.

but the deciding factor between sliding gunter and gaff is the wire that the 'gunter spar' slides along, no? nothing really at all to do with halyards. . .

Bobcat
07-09-2016, 11:21 AM
Looks more like gunter to me. The decider for me would be whether or not it has two halyards, although I know some gaffers, notably Bob Perry designs have only one halyard.

Isn't the gaff/yard on the gunter vertical when the sail is set?

A gunter can have jaws, I think, and not use a jackstay

Hwyl
07-09-2016, 11:22 AM
I
've never heard that definition before, although I can see the logic. It would not however include the Mirror dinghy.

Bobcat
07-09-2016, 11:26 AM
A discussion of the sliding gunter

http://duckworksmagazine.com/05/vintage/sbj/2/index.htm

Ted Hoppe
07-09-2016, 04:45 PM
Making gaffers relevant today. . .

http://www.finot-conq.com/en/sites/dev.finot-conq.com/files/imagecache/inline_image_side_to_side/wysiwyg_imageupload/28/10.jpg

this design and the Dix 29 retro are quite similar. I think the Dix design in plywood and fabric would a super boat. Built as a cruiser or a racer. I hope the guy who bought and orders the plywood cutoutss will post on his attempt. http://dudleydix.blogspot.fr/2013/01/first-kit-for-didi-29-retro.html

http://boatplans.cc/media/design/dudley-dix/didi-29-retro/didi-29-rigs.jpg

Phil Y
07-09-2016, 05:18 PM
I like traditional gaff rig on a traditional boat. But not sure I see the relevance of a modern high aspect sail with a gaff on a modern hull.

Ted Hoppe
07-10-2016, 10:01 AM
This seascape 27 is a really fun boat to sail. Checks many of those boxes. Nearly a gaff with super performance.

http://www.blur.se/images/seascapes-blog-1.jpg


https://vimeo.com/82388606

Ted Hoppe
07-10-2016, 10:14 AM
Youll get get over the plastic once you start sailing it.


https://vimeo.com/82388606

wizbang 13
07-10-2016, 10:51 AM
A square head/fat head modern main has about ZERO to do with a gaff rig.
Chris Bowman designed and built a boat to go in a 40 ' container. Lightweight, fin keel .It had a rig like the gaffer in the op. Fitting the spar in the container is about the only reason I can see.
Or racing ratings.
Carrying a code zero thingy or whatever that is is also daft on a gaffer (imo).

David W Pratt
07-10-2016, 12:00 PM
What is the halyard tension like to get the leech to stand?
One of the advantages of the gaff rig is low rigging tensions

CK 17
07-10-2016, 12:07 PM
My first boat project was a riverside dinghy. It had folding Gunter. One halyard. The sail was laced on the yard. Fun little boat.

Ted Hoppe
07-10-2016, 01:00 PM
A square head/fat head modern main has about ZERO to do with a gaff rig.
Chris Bowman designed and built a boat to go in a 40 ' container. Lightweight, fin keel .It had a rig like the gaffer in the op. Fitting the spar in the container is about the only reason I can see.
Or racing ratings.
Carrying a code zero thingy or whatever that is is also daft on a gaffer (imo).

Gaff rigs are for nostalgics. The square head is the sail du jour particularly set in spectra or carbon. Making a new, modern and quirky sporting gaffer has some personal insanity in it. Maybe that why we are drawn to them.