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Rum_Pirate
07-08-2016, 08:59 AM
Thanks FORD. :pmad:



Click on a category below for details. Help? (http://www.carcomplaints.com/faq/graph.shtml)

Transmission Problems
57NHTSA complaints: 73 (http://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Escape/2002/transmission/)

Ted Hoppe
07-08-2016, 09:32 AM
Thanks FORD. :pmad:

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I got my Ford Edge AWD for a full cash refund after I returned it to Ford with the California Lemon Law - 2 transmissions changes, numerous dealership repairs and over 90 days of service days in 18 months. The last straw for me was when the cabin filled with smoke while my wife and son were driving down the freeway after transmission fluid burned.

I loved the first 10k miles of that car before the first seals blew and then had other transmission problems all over and over again. The finish and stitched leather interior was quite good. - I wonder who Ford sold that car to next.

WszystekPoTrochu
07-09-2016, 02:25 AM
Is there a single thing that hasn't broken yet?

Paul Pless
07-09-2016, 05:56 AM
oh, this is about your car. . .

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 06:21 AM
Is there a single thing that hasn't broken yet?


Give me a little time to think. :d

. . . and a couple hours to check.

Michael D. Storey
07-09-2016, 11:14 AM
I can get 386k out of a F150. And still get $750 for the carcass.
I am aware that that does not speak for cars; it seems that they know how to do it, but choose not to in all of their vehicles. I reckon that it is because of the nature of the competition being different

David G
07-09-2016, 12:25 PM
Dropped on head as a small child?

Canoeyawl
07-09-2016, 12:28 PM
Where you live?

Shang
07-09-2016, 03:42 PM
Ate too many paint chips as a kid?

Tom Montgomery
07-09-2016, 04:39 PM
Thanks FORD. :pmad:
You are welcome. :p

What you have there is a 1st generation Escape that was designed and produced as a joint venture between Ford and Mazda.

Mazda took the lead in engineering the car.

Oops! |:(

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 05:09 PM
You are welcome. :p

What you have there is a 1st generation Escape that was designed and produced as a joint venture between Ford and Mazda.

Mazda took the lead in engineering the car.

Oops! |:(

The FORD Escape I have is in the first half the 2000's .

However it is labelled FORD!


From 1979 to 2010, Mazda had a partnership with the Ford Motor Company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company), which acquired a 7% stake in 1979, and by 1996 owned 33.3% of Mazda. Under the administration of Alan Mulally (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Mulally), Ford gradually divested its stake in Mazda from 2008 to 2010, with Ford currently holding 2.1% of Mazda stock in 2014[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda#cite_note-13) and severing most production as well as development ties.


The Ford Escape is a compact crossover vehicle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_(automobile)) sold by Ford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company) since 2000 over three generations. Ford released the original model in 2000 for the 2001 model year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_year)—a model jointly developed and released with Mazda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda) of Japan—who took a lead in the engineering of the two models and sold their version as the Mazda Tribute.


The first generation Ford Escape was released in 2000 for the 2001 model year. It was jointly developed with Mazda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda), in which Ford owned a controlling interest, and was released simultaneously with the Mazda Tribute. Both are built on the Ford CD2 platform (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_CD2_platform), in turn based on the Mazda GF platform (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_G_platform#GF).

Tom Montgomery
07-09-2016, 05:11 PM
^
Yes it is.

There are good reasons why Ford, under Alan Mullally's leadership, divested its stake in Mazda. You own one of those reasons.

CEO Jacque Nasser nearly destroyed Ford Motor Company. The first generation, joint venture, Ford/Mazda Escape was designed and engineered during his administration. He was ousted in October of 2001 and replaced by William Clayton (Bill) Ford Jr.

The joint venture with Mazda on the Escape was dissolved under Bill Ford's leadership. Bill Ford served as CEO and COO until September of 2006 when he wisely stepped aside so that Alan Mulally could take over the position of CEO. Bill Ford hired Alan Mullally.

Today Bill Ford is the Chairman of the Ford Motor Company Board of Directors.

Phil Y
07-09-2016, 05:12 PM
Mazdas in my experience are excellent cars. Well built, nice to drive, reliable and easy to service.

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 05:15 PM
Mazdas in my experience are excellent cars. Well built, nice to drive, reliable and easy to service.
I would go along with you on that.

The Mazdas that I have owned were exemplary.

Paul Pless
07-09-2016, 05:18 PM
There are good reasons why Ford, under Alan Mullally's leadership, divested its stake in Mazda. You own one of those reasons.To be fair, much of the domestic as well as the international auto industry went through major restructuring post economic crisis of 2008. Domestically, GM and Ford shed a lot of excess weight between them: Lotus, Volvo, Saab, Isuzu, Pontiac, Olds, Mercury, plus a hell of a lot of service and parts and financing divisions were axed - Chrysler was cut adrift from Daimler pre crisis.

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 05:21 PM
To be fair, much of the domestic as well as the international auto industry went through major restructuring post economic crisis of 2008. Domestically, GM and Ford shed a lot of excess weight between them: Lotus, Volvo, Saab, Isuzu, Pontiac, Olds, Mercury, plus a hell of a lot of service and parts and financing divisions were axed - Chrysler was cut adrift from Daimler pre crisis.
I never realised that GM and Ford owned Lotus, Volvo, Saab, Isuzu, Pontiac, Olds and Mercury and Mazda.

Tom Montgomery
07-09-2016, 05:29 PM
CEO Jacque Nasser nearly destroyed Ford Motor Company. The first generation, joint venture, Ford/Mazda Escape was designed and engineered during his administration. He was ousted in October of 2001 and replaced by William Clayton (Bill) Ford Jr.

The joint venture with Mazda on the Escape was dissolved under Bill Ford's leadership. Bill Ford served as CEO and COO until September of 2006 when he wisely stepped aside so that Alan Mulally could take over the position of CEO. Bill Ford hired Alan Mullally.

Today Bill Ford is the Chairman of the Ford Motor Company Board of Directors.

David G
07-09-2016, 05:29 PM
Mazdas in my experience are excellent cars. Well built, nice to drive, reliable and easy to service.

Yes, they are.

And not all joint ventures are shining examples of synergy. The Escape always struck me as one of the examples of that. OTOH... that same joint venture came out with the Mercury Tracer. We owned the wagon version of that for years, and it was a peach. Best of both worlds, in my view.

So... while I have no idea where the Escape partnership went south... I'd not be inclined to assume all the blame rests with Mazda... or that that one example says too much derogatory about Mazda. I've owned several, and been quite pleased. And they consistently get good reviews from groups as diverse as Car&Driver and Consumer Reports.

Tom Montgomery
07-09-2016, 05:34 PM
Alan Mullaly not only divested Ford's controlling interest in Mazda... He also sold off Jaguar, Land Rover, Aston Martin and Volvo.

leikec
07-09-2016, 05:41 PM
Yes, they are.

And not all joint ventures are shining examples of synergy. The Escape always struck me as one of the examples of that. OTOH... that same joint venture came out with the Mercury Tracer. We owned the wagon version of that for years, and it was a peach. Best of both worlds, in my view.

So... while I have no idea where the Escape partnership went south... I'd not be inclined to assume all the blame rests with Mazda... or that that one example says too much derogatory about Mazda. I've owned several, and been quite pleased. And they consistently get good reviews from groups as diverse as Car&Driver and Consumer Reports.

I had great luck with my Escape, until the transmission gave up at 135k miles. That was an expensive repair on my 4wd version, but it was the only major repair I incurred.

I liked the Escape much better than the Mazda CX-7 that replaced it. I recently replaced the CX-7 with an AWD Mazda CX-3.

Every Mazda I've owned has been a decent car at the very least--most of them have been great.

Jeff C

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 05:43 PM
Tom, do you have a link to a site for transmission (clutch rings, the bit they fit into and the pump) repair/refurbishment kit
readily to hand?

Tom Montgomery
07-09-2016, 05:49 PM
No. sorry.

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 05:52 PM
No. sorry.

OK, it was worth a try. Y>

The chaps down here are fairly adept at sourcing that sort of thing. I certainly hope that will be the case with my issue. :ycool:

leikec
07-09-2016, 06:02 PM
OK, it was worth a try. Y>

The chaps down here are fairly adept at sourcing that sort of thing. I certainly hope that will be the case with my issue. :ycool:

If you plan on keeping the vehicle you are much better off buying a remanufactured transmission that will have a long term warranty. If you have the transmission repaired without doing the modifications the remanufacturing companies do to their transmissions then I strongly recommend that you install a transmission cooler when you do the repair.

Jeff C

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 06:09 PM
If you plan on keeping the vehicle you are much better off buying a remanufactured transmission that will have a long term warranty. If you have the transmission repaired without doing the modifications the remanufacturing companies do to their transmissions then I strongly recommend that you install a transmission cooler when you do the repair.

Jeff C


My longest journey is 12 miles. Average journey is +/-3 miles (each way). Do I need a transmission cooler for that?

leikec
07-09-2016, 06:37 PM
My longest journey is 12 miles. Average journey is +/-3 miles (each way). Do I need a transmission cooler for that?

I guess it's up to you.
Have you (or your shop) opened up the damaged trans yet? Something caused your trans to fail--overheating is the most likely culprit.

The other thing you might consider is switching to synthetic trans fluid.

Jeff C

Rum_Pirate
07-09-2016, 07:28 PM
I guess it's up to you.
Have you (or your shop) opened up the damaged trans yet? Something caused your trans to fail--overheating is the most likely culprit.

The other thing you might consider is switching to synthetic trans fluid.

Jeff C


I will get and post some pics.