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Boatfix
06-29-2016, 10:42 AM
The IRS scandal just keeps on trucking. Lois Lerner might yet go to jail, which she richly deserves.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437280/irs-tea-party-harassment?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Con tent&utm_content=5773bffd04d30122bd9aadca&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter


Recently obtained documents raise new questions about Lois Lernerís role in sending confidential tax returns to the Justice Department. It is likely the largest unauthorized disclosure of tax-return information in history: the transfer of some 1.25 million pages of confidential tax returns from the IRS to the Department of Justice in October of 2010. And it was almost certainly illegal.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437280/irs-tea-party-harassment?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Con tent&utm_content=5773bffd04d30122bd9aadca&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

David G
06-29-2016, 10:48 AM
And I 'might yet' sprout wings and morph into a Sparkly Purple Unicorn'.

It could happen...

Norman Bernstein
06-29-2016, 10:54 AM
Recently obtained documents raise new questions about Lois Lerner’s role in sending confidential tax returns to the Justice Department.


'Recently obtained documents'?

I can find NO information past October 29th, 2015, on this particular issue... and the National Review article does not provide ANY additional information, aside from the alleged 'recently obtained documents'.

Is this the sort of standard you set for yourself, when deciding to post an issue to the forum? I.e., NO information whatsoever?

Let us know, when you've found some actual information... as opposed to nothing.

Norman Bernstein
06-29-2016, 11:01 AM
And even more to the point:


The U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI began an investigation into the IRS controversy in May 2013.[29] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-HessCleared-29) In October 2015, the DOJ announced that the Department was closing the investigation and would not seek any criminal charges related to the IRS controversy.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-Phelps-1) The determination came after an investigation of almost two years, in which the DOJ and FBI interviewed more than 100 witnesses and reviewed more than a million pages of IRS documents.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-Phelps-1)

In a letter to House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Goodlatte), Republican of Virginia, announcing the case closure, Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Peter J. Kadzik wrote that while "our investigation uncovered substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment, and institutional inertia...Not a single IRS employee reported any allegation, concern or suspicion that the handling of tax-exempt applications—or any other IRS function—was motivated by political bias, discriminatory intent, or corruption."[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-Phelps-1)

Kadzik wrote "We found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution."[30] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-30)

Kadzik stated that the investigation specifically absolved Lerner of criminal liability, and determined that Lerner was in fact the first official to recognize a problem and try and correct it.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-Phelps-1)[31] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner#cite_note-31)

So, you post an artricle from National Review which contains no sources, and no information.....

....yet you are positive that she 'richly deserves' to go to jail.

Can you explain the pretzel logic which leads you to this conclusion?

ron ll
06-29-2016, 11:01 AM
And Trump "might yet" release his tax returns.

Keith Wilson
06-29-2016, 11:27 AM
And Senator McCarthy has a list of over 200 KNOWN COMMUNISTS in the State Department!!

Boatfix
06-29-2016, 11:29 AM
'Recently obtained documents'?

I can find NO information past October 29th, 2015, on this particular issue... and the National Review article does not provide ANY additional information, aside from the alleged 'recently obtained documents'.

Is this the sort of standard you set for yourself, when deciding to post an issue to the forum? I.e., NO information whatsoever?

Let us know, when you've found some actual information... as opposed to nothing.

I'll let you know. I'm sure I'll have to help you pull your head out of the sand when I do.


http://freebeacon.com/issues/emails-irs-sent-tea-party-tax-documents-to-fec/


Emails: IRS Sent Tea Party Tax Documents to FEC

FOIAed communications show IRS gave FEC access to confidential tax records


The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) shared confidential tax records from several tea party groups with the Federal Election Commission (FEC), emails obtained by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch reveal.

Lois Lerner, the former head of the IRS tax-exempt division at the heart of the agency’s targeting scandal, sent the FEC records from several conservative groups, including the American Future Fund and the American Issues Project. Federal privacy laws heavily protect tax returns and associated documents.
“These extensive emails and other materials provide a disturbing window into the activities of two out-of-control federal agencies: the IRS and FEC,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. “And there is the very real question as to whether these documents evidence a crime.”
Judicial Watch obtained the emails from the FEC through an Aug. 9, 2013, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
In a Feb. 3, 2009 email chain (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/fec-documents-emails-between-lois-lerner-and-fec/), an FEC enforcement division attorney asked Lerner for information about the American Future Fund and several other conservative organizations.
Lerner emailed back, writing, “I have sent your email out to some of my staff. Will get back to you as soon as I have heard from them.”
According to Judicial Watch, Lerner then sent the FEC detailed information about the American Future Fund, including annual tax returns (Forms 990), requests for exempt recognition forms, articles of organization, and other correspondence between the nonprofit and the IRS.
Under the Internal Revenue Code, it is a felony for IRS officials to release taxpayer return information outside of the agency. For example, the Treasury Department will not release (http://freebeacon.com/treasury-department-ig-refused-foia-on-austan-goolsbee-investigation/) the results of investigations into unauthorized disclosures, even if they are requested by the party whose tax returns were allegedly leaked...


Earlier this month, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform revealed (http://freebeacon.com/darrel-issa-irs-officials-sent-private-data-over-personal-email-accounts/) that senior Internal Revenue Service officials—including Lerner—violated agency policies and possibly federal records laws by using private email to send confidential taxpayer information.
Oversight Chairman Darrel Issa (R., Calif.), in a Sept. 30 letter to IRS Acting Commissioner Daniel Werfel, said an investigation revealed a “troubling pattern” of at least four top IRS officials using their private email addresses to relay confidential tax information.
“This not only raises the prospect of violations of the Federal Records Act but it also raises data security concerns and violates internal IRS policies,” Issa wrote to Werfel.
Issa said the committee’s investigation produced more than 1,600 pages of emails and documents housed in Lerner’s nonofficial email account related to IRS business, including nearly 30 pages of confidential taxpayer information. Included in the material was a summary of an application for tax-exempt status the IRS instructed Lerner’s legal counsel to redact.
Lerner invoked her Fifth Amendment rights and refused to testify before the Oversight Committee earlier this year. She retired last month while an internal IRS probe was still ongoing, guaranteeing her a federal pension.



The IRS is quite the law breaker covering up for old Lois.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/06/16/irs-wont-release-lois-lerner-emails-because-they-might-be-duplicates/#586d9df6b06f

Tom Montgomery
06-29-2016, 11:36 AM
....yet you are positive that she 'richly deserves' to go to jail.

Can you explain the pretzel logic which leads you to this conclusion?
It's a conspiracy I tells ya!

John of Phoenix
06-29-2016, 11:40 AM
Join Date Feb 2016

Who was the last poster where we saw this kind of psychotic hatered?

Who was that?

:D LMAO :D

ron ll
06-29-2016, 11:44 AM
Who was the last poster where we saw this kind of psychotic hatered?

Who was that?

:D LMAO :D

Funny how they can change their name but their true character still shines thru. :D

Keith Wilson
06-29-2016, 11:49 AM
I thought it wasn't cool to come back in with another name. Meli was kicked out for that, and she was generally a very agreeable person who occasionally lost it.

ron ll
06-29-2016, 11:51 AM
It isn't cool.

Durnik
06-29-2016, 12:03 PM
I'm with Keith.

& jailing Lois would be a travesty of the first order.. meaning the rat frequenters may yet do it - the 'rule of law' being but a trite saying in these United States..

bobby

Norman Bernstein
06-29-2016, 12:05 PM
I'll let you know. I'm sure I'll have to help you pull your head out of the sand when I do.

You're still pumping up a nothingburger.

Where's the 'new information' here? There isn't any. Some right wing group requested documents via the FOIA... documents which don't contain any NEW information, it's all stuff that the DOJ had back when they first investigated this case.

Of course, since you're a right winger, you'll probably want to launch 5 or 6 new congressional investigations... spend another $10 or $20 MILLION in doing so.... and, no doubt, it will be every bit as worthwhile as Ken Starr's Whitewater investigation (2 years, $70M), or the 6 distinct Bengahzi investigations ($7M, so far).

Lois Lerner, and this entire affair, was intensively investigated already, and she was exonerated. It sure does seem that you want to continue investigating until you get the 'right' verdict..... so much for the rule of law.

Flying Orca
06-29-2016, 12:20 PM
You're still pumping up a nothingburger.

I just want to savour this one more time. So succinct, and yet much more polite than many. Y>

John of Phoenix
06-29-2016, 12:46 PM
I thought it wasn't cool to come back in with another name.I seem to recall that one of the recently banned was in the marine repair business... in Texas.

Location: Dallas and points north

Interests:Boats and boatbuilding, Boat repair, Photography, coastal flyfishing, sailing, bowhunting

Occupation:Advertising Photographer also Boat repair

Keith Wilson
06-29-2016, 01:04 PM
Indeed. Either his style, interests, and politics are so similar that it's uncanny, or it's the same person.

Canoeyawl
06-29-2016, 01:09 PM
Not the large font and bright colors though, thank goodness

Boatfix
06-29-2016, 08:36 PM
You're still pumping up a nothingburger.

Lois Lerner, and this entire affair, was intensively investigated already, and she was exonerated. It sure does seem that you want to continue investigating until you get the 'right' verdict..... so much for the rule of law.

Wrong. She took the 5th and answered no questions, then retired with full retirement pay. Liberals! They rewrite history every day. Only recently a judge in the IRS case held the IRS in contempt and the current Obama stooge heading up the IRS has lied to the court and obstructed justice in lying about the Lerner emails. Wake up Norm. IT has taken this long to even begin to overcome the obstruction by the IRS on any and all investigations into the IRS scandal.


...A federal appeals court spanked the IRS (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/internal-revenue-service/) Tuesday, saying it has taken laws designed to protect taxpayers from the government and turned them on their head, using them to try to protect the tax agency from the very tea party groups it targeted.
The judges ordered the IRS (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/internal-revenue-service/) to quickly turn over the full list of groups it targeted so that a class-action lawsuit, filed by the NorCal Tea Party Patriots, can proceed. The judges also accused the Justice Department (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/department-of-justice/) lawyers, who are representing the IRS (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/internal-revenue-service/) in the case, of acting in bad faith — compounding the initial targeting — by fighting the disclosure.
“The lawyers in the Department of Justice (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/department-of-justice/) have a long and storied tradition of defending the nation’s interests and enforcing its laws — all of them, not just selective ones — in a manner worthy of the Department (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/department-of-justice/)’s name. The conduct of the IRS (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/internal-revenue-service/)’s attorneys in the district court falls outside that tradition,” Judge Raymond Kethledge wrote in a unanimous opinion for a three-judge panel of the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. “We expect that the IRS (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/internal-revenue-service/) will do better going forward.”...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/22/irs-rebuked-tea-party-targeting-ordered-release-se/


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David G
06-29-2016, 10:12 PM
And I 'might yet' sprout wings and morph into a Sparkly Purple Unicorn'.

It could happen...

No... really!!

I can feel it coming on. Any time now...

Old Dryfoot
06-29-2016, 10:37 PM
Ha!

If you visit the NorCal Tea Party Patriots website, and you're not from the US, you will be blocked from all but the front page. :D


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Keith Wilson
06-29-2016, 10:44 PM
Most of it you're better off not reading; trust me on this. OTOH, they're having a wine tasting in Auburn on July 15th.

David G
06-29-2016, 10:53 PM
My shoulder blades are feeling itchy. Say... do these little bumps look like 'wing-buds' to you??? And I think I'm turning just the slightest shade of purple. Does it show yet? Yanno... I bet the wings will pop into view the same day she's hauled off to jail. I just have a feeling!!

Chip-skiff
06-29-2016, 11:00 PM
You guys do like to fantasize about women being punished.

https://mikemcclaughry.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/blood-censored-women-in-chains.jpg?w=717

Clinton released her e-mail. Bet you wouldn't dare release your history of Google searches. Y:o

David G
07-01-2016, 10:07 AM
No... I mean it. Those 'wing-buds' are getting really itchy. Soon. Really soon. This is gonna be HUGE!!!

Chip-skiff
07-01-2016, 07:40 PM
I have this itching in my. . .uhhh. . .down there.

Jim Mahan
07-01-2016, 07:55 PM
What if Lois Lerner met Bill Clinton 'on a tarmac' and then sent Hillary an email about it?

Canoeyawl
07-01-2016, 08:26 PM
Is the GOP looking for "the dress"?

TomF
07-01-2016, 09:23 PM
Yeah. And they're really mad that it isn't there, no matter how much they believe or how much money they spend looking.

David G
07-02-2016, 09:32 AM
C'mon guys, take a look. Don't my little wing-bud bumps look bigger to you? They FEEL bigger to me. And itchy. I can't get rid of the itch. I'm tellin' ya... they're gonna sprout ANY DAY NOW. I keep having this feeling that they're destined to bloom the same day that Lois gets thrown in the slammer.

TomF
07-02-2016, 09:41 AM
You turn into a sparkly flying unicorn, and you're gonna have to subsist on dried rainbow, like Keith's steed. Be careful what you wish for.

David G
07-02-2016, 10:02 AM
You turn into a sparkly flying unicorn, and you're gonna have to subsist on dried rainbow, like Keith's steed. Be careful what you wish for.

Well... I realize I'm probably doomed, then. Because we all know the odds are Very Good that Ms. Lerner's gonna be sent up the river. Say... is that DriedRainbow stuff available with bacon bits, do ya know? Prolly have to as Keith. Or... better yet... I'll ask the OP. He seems to know such a lot about such a lot. And he's clearly a master of all things fantastic...

CWSmith
07-02-2016, 10:30 AM
And Senator McCarthy has a list of over 200 KNOWN COMMUNISTS in the State Department!!

Hold that thought. What was old may be new again.

Kevin T
07-02-2016, 11:12 AM
What if Lois Lerner met Bill Clinton 'on a tarmac' and then sent Hillary an email about it?

Don't forget the requisite video that makes it all the more criminal.