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David G
06-12-2016, 03:50 PM
So much for 'regular order'. Ryan apparently concludes that the Republican caucus is too dysfunctional to allow it... and having the Republican's approach to governance highlighted by allowing Democrats to participate is just too embarrassing.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2016/06/12/paul-ryan-is-proving-john-boehner-was-right/#3b3642307a3c


There were two reason it was probably hard for Boehner not to laugh out loud when Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) announced (http://thehill.com/policy/finance/282704-ryan-changes-rules-for-spending-bills) that, effective immediately, the House of Representatives would use “structured rules” to limit debate on appropriations.

The first was the so-obvious-it-hurt linguistic gymnastics Ryan used to avoid saying that he will now limit debate on appropriations with closed rules (http://www.conservapedia.com/Modified_Closed_Rule) that restrict the amendments that may be offered.

Closed rules are the exact opposite of the regular order (http://www.rollcall.com/news/regular_order_is_a_political_rorschach_wolfensberg er-224587-1.html) Ryan promised the House Freedom Caucus (HFC) he would provide when he wanted its support to replace Boehner as speaker. The far less known phrase “structured rules” was a clear public relations attempt by Ryan to make his flip-flop to Boehner’s position more politically palatable.

The second was the tacit admission by Ryan’s announcement that Boehner, who was so despised by the HFC over things like closed rules that it continually threatened to unseat him if he didn’t change his ways, was right: the House of Representatives today is incapable of functioning unless the leadership takes control to limit its excesses.

Ryan’s change was not received well by Democrats, who see it as a way to limit the amendments they get to offer during appropriations debates. In fact, Ryan’s announcement specifically cited unwanted and politically embarrassing Democratic amendments as the reason he changed his mind from regular order to closed rules so their criticism was both understandable and almost certainly anticipated.

S.V. Airlie
06-12-2016, 03:55 PM
Ryan is being hit left and right because of this, his support of Trump and apparently a strong opposition from some idiot in his own district who is being supported by Trump. Poor guy!

David G
06-12-2016, 04:50 PM
Well... he is in a tough spot. Was it hubris that made him think he could handle it better? Ambition? I dunno.

elf
06-12-2016, 06:42 PM
Ambition.

And stupidity.

He played hard to get, but after that there was nothing. No skill, no leverage, no sense of direction, no ethics, no capacity to manage.

Stupid.

Nicholas Scheuer
06-12-2016, 07:25 PM
Ryan deserves every ounce of trouble that comes his way. Couldn't happen to a more deserving Repub.

Vince Brennan
06-12-2016, 11:08 PM
Ambition.

And stupidity.

He played hard to get, but after that there was nothing. No skill, no leverage, no sense of direction, no ethics, no capacity to manage.

Stupid.
This fool DID play "Hard To Get" but forgot that one must have something WORTH the GETTING... And he didn't.

At least Boehner had a great toupee.