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genglandoh
06-02-2016, 09:40 PM
In 2012 Obama got 71% of the Hispanic community and Romney got 27%
The Poll below shows Trump with 32% and Hillary with only 61%

Title: Poll: Americans Now Split on Who They Think Will Win 2016 Presidential Election
Black voters continue to support Clinton by an overwhelming 79-point margin (87 percent to 8 percent). Hispanics support Clinton over Trump by 29 points (61 percent to 32 percent). Trump is the preferred candidate among white voters by 14 points over Clinton (53 percent to 39 percent). These numbers are consistent with margins from last week's tracking poll.
Link http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-americans-now-split-who-they-think-will-win-2016-n583181

Keith Wilson
06-02-2016, 09:44 PM
You sure do love to cherrypick polls. Some reasonable analysis here. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-latino-voters_us_573c62d2e4b0646cbeeb8c16)

Chip-skiff
06-02-2016, 09:46 PM
On what planet?

genglandoh
06-02-2016, 09:50 PM
I started this as a new thread so we can monitor it over time.
We will see what the numbers are after the Rep National Convention and the Dem National Convention.

slug
06-02-2016, 10:01 PM
Obama pandered to the Latino community with immigration policy.

The world has changed.....this pandering cant be repeated. Latinos know this.

L.W. Baxter
06-02-2016, 10:23 PM
Obama pandered to the Latino community with immigration policy.

The world has changed.....this pandering cant be repeated. Latinos know this.

Actually, the Obama administration clamped down on the border, and stepped up deportations. The influx of undocumented immigrants is at a trickle now compared to the flooding of the GW Bush administration. True story, you can look it up.

Obama is fairly popular with Hispanics principally because he respects the law, and is not a bigoted a-hole.

slug
06-02-2016, 10:24 PM
So tell me this, Graham, why do you want to see that creep in the White House?


To force change, break the political machine, reform immigration, adopt to globalization ...

BrianW
06-02-2016, 10:28 PM
Latino's being generally conservative family types will of course appreciate Trumps more conservative stated values over those of Hillary.

How that plays out against their displeasure with some of things he has said will be interesting to watch in November.

slug
06-02-2016, 10:31 PM
Actually, the Obama administration clamped down on the border, and stepped up deportations. The influx of undocumented immigrants is at a trickle now compared to the flooding of the GW Bush administration. True story, you can look it up.

Obama is fairly popular with Hispanics principally because he respects the law, and is not a bigoted a-hole.


no ...Obama rejects skills based immigration reform. Hispanics lack skills..they would have been disadvantaged under a skills based system. Obama knew this would cost him latino votes .



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/05/washington/05immig.html?_r=0


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John Smith
06-02-2016, 10:42 PM
I just saw a report that blacks, hispanics who work for the Republican Party are all quitting.

L.W. Baxter
06-02-2016, 10:48 PM
no ...Obama rejects skills based immigration reform. Hispanics lack skills..they would have been disadvantaged under a skills based system. Obama knew this would cost him latino votes ...

So, to recap your argument: Obama "pandered" to Hispanics in his opposition to a Republican sponsored immigration bill 9 years ago, and today, still smarting from Obama's opposition to a bill that they didn't like, Hispanics turn away from the Democratic Party and lend their support to Donald Trump.

Sounds legit.

BrianW
06-02-2016, 10:49 PM
I just saw a report that blacks, hispanics who work for the Republican Party are all quitting.

Really? All of them?

Better post a link, or some Texan will be along shortly to correct your ways.

:D

slug
06-02-2016, 10:51 PM
So, to recap your argument: Obama "pandered" to Hispanics in his opposition to a Republican sponsored immigration bill 9 years ago, and today, still smarting from Obama's opposition to a bill that they didn't like, Hispanics turn away from the Democratic Party and lend their support to Donald Trump.

Sounds legit.


Yes indeed. He pandered to latinos rather than seek immigration reform that would benefit the next generation of Americans.

Liberals are terrified of immigration reform

slug
06-02-2016, 10:52 PM
Learn to post links.

Your 'screenshot vandalism' is unappreciated.


The link is posted.

stub out your joint and sober up or you will forever be a low information liberal hack

L.W. Baxter
06-02-2016, 10:58 PM
Liberals are terrified of immigration reform

Uh huh. Well, to refer you back to the fact that illegal immigration is down and deportations up under Obama relative to his predecessor, I would have to say...conservatives must be terrified of enforcing immigration law.

hokiefan
06-02-2016, 11:01 PM
Uh huh. Well, to refer you back to the fact that illegal immigration is down and deportations up under Obama relative to his predecessor, I would have to say...conservatives must be terrified of enforcing immigration law.

They are. They want/need that cheap labor to run their businesses.

mdh
06-02-2016, 11:04 PM
Uh huh. Well, to refer you back to the fact that illegal immigration is down and deportations up under Obama relative to his predecessor, I would have to say...conservatives must be terrified of enforcing immigration law.

This is wrong. Neither is illegal immigration down, nor are deportations up. The way they count them and what the gov't tells you, has changed, during this administration.

slug
06-02-2016, 11:05 PM
Amnesty and deportations are not Immigration reform .

there has been no reform under Obama. clintons policy paper on immigration proposes nothing new..only amnesty and we feel your pain nonsense.

latinos who are presently sending thier kids to school and living by the rules now realize that futher unchecked immigration of low skill workers will hurt thier community and children the most .

slug
06-02-2016, 11:11 PM
They are. They want/need that cheap labor to run their businesses.


when skilled immigrants get thier boots on the ground they are only interested in kicking ass. These immigrants vote conservative .

liberals prefer low skill immigrants who will be permanent clients of the party ...lifelong liberal voters seeking ever increasing helpings of free stuff.

L.W. Baxter
06-02-2016, 11:19 PM
Trump's YUUUGE wall is already built. It is a fortress between the observer and reality. Once you take your place behind it, anything is possible.

slug
06-02-2016, 11:32 PM
The wall is a threat. A threat to both american lawmakers and the mexican government.

Trump should declare a national emergency and put the US on lockdown ...zero immigration ...until lawmakers get thier act together and formulate an immigration policy suitable for the next generation

L.W. Baxter
06-02-2016, 11:49 PM
Trump should declare a national emergency and put the US on lockdown ...

You mean right now, or after he's inaugurated? Anything is possible, eh Slug?

bobbys
06-03-2016, 12:34 AM
Actually, the Obama administration clamped down on the border, and stepped up deportations. The influx of undocumented immigrants is at a trickle now compared to the flooding of the GW Bush administration. True story, you can look it up.

Obama is fairly popular with Hispanics principally because he respects the law, and is not a bigoted a-hole..

What happened to Yer lecture on not talking trash about people other people admire?

Keith Wilson
06-03-2016, 07:01 AM
This is wrong. Neither is illegal immigration down, nor are deportations up. The way they count them and what the gov't tells you, has changed, during this administration.You are mistaken. The number of folks here illegally has started to decline after rising for over 20 years Some of the change was due to economic conditions in the US during the recession, but it's true.

genglandoh
06-04-2016, 06:41 PM
In 2012 Obama got 71% of the Hispanic community and Romney got 27%
The Poll below shows Trump with 32% and Hillary with only 61%

Title: Poll: Americans Now Split on Who They Think Will Win 2016 Presidential Election
Black voters continue to support Clinton by an overwhelming 79-point margin (87 percent to 8 percent). Hispanics support Clinton over Trump by 29 points (61 percent to 32 percent). Trump is the preferred candidate among white voters by 14 points over Clinton (53 percent to 39 percent). These numbers are consistent with margins from last week's tracking poll.
Link http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-americans-now-split-who-they-think-will-win-2016-n583181

A few points
1. Why is Hillary only at 50%?
2. Trump is at the same level as Romney.
3. If Trump is hated so much in the Hispanic community why are there so many undecided.

Title: Clinton has big Hispanic lead over Trump, but many undecided, FAU poll shows
Hillary Clinton is far ahead of Donald Trump among Hispanic voters nationally, but both presumptive presidential nominees will be fighting for the large number of undecided voters, a Florida Atlantic University poll released Thursday shows.
The poll shows 50 percent of Hispanic voters support Democratic candidate Clinton, while only 27 percent support Republican candidate Trump.
Nationally, 23 percent were undecided.
Link: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-fau-hispanic-poll-20160602-story.html

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2016, 06:44 PM
Really? All of them?

Better post a link, or some Texan will be along shortly to correct your ways.

:DOh boy, Cruz is leaving the republican party. Thanks for small favors

Chip-skiff
06-04-2016, 07:45 PM
To the same degree that Justice Thomas has the support of the black community.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2016, 07:57 PM
To the same degree that Justice Thomas has the support of the black community.Yup, gotta keep him propped up or people will think he's just asleep.

Keith Wilson
06-07-2016, 10:14 AM
Well, Geng, after Mr. Trump's latest rants about the judge in the "Trump University" lawsuit, you still think he's going to get significant Hispanic support?

LeeG
06-07-2016, 11:04 AM
The wall is a threat. A threat to both american lawmakers and the mexican government.

Trump should declare a national emergency and put the US on lockdown ...zero immigration ...until lawmakers get thier act together and formulate an immigration policy suitable for the next generation

Like Barcelona's lockdown because of one young fellow with mental health problems?

I bet you can't wait for martial law.

Chip-skiff
06-07-2016, 11:16 AM
Trump should declare a national emergency and put the US on lockdown ...zero immigration ...until lawmakers get thier act together and formulate an immigration policy suitable for the next generation

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