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Norman Bernstein
05-31-2016, 11:21 AM
Despite the nativism of Donald Trump's 'shtick', there's a good reason why we need immigration reform: the benefits could be significant.


Reform Would Help Curb The Deficit
Immigration reform would reduce the federal deficit by $2.5 trillion (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-08/business/38371503_1_previous-immigration-bills-immigration-reform-immigration-laws) over the next 10 years, according to an April analysis by the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank.

Expelling Immigrants Is Expensive
Expelling the approximately 11 million undocumented immigrants currently in the United States would cost $2.6 trillion over the next 10 years, according to CNBC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100449802). That's because it costs the government more than $8,000 to deport each person.

Reform Would Help Fix The Social Security Problem
Immigration reform would help bolster Social Security because more legal workers would mean more people contributing payroll taxes to its trust fund, according to an analysis from the Social Security administration (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130508/us-immigration/?utm_hp_ref=arts&ir=arts). Undocumented workers already contribute $15 billion per year (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/immigration-reform-social-security_n_3103500.html) to Social Security.

Immigrants Start Successful Businesses
More than a quarter of technology and engineering firms (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/31/worried-about-the-economy-then-pass-immigration-reform/) started between 1995 and 2005 had a foreign-born owner, according to the Washington Post. One of the founders of Yahoo! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/22/american-companies-founded-by-immigrants_n_3116172.html#slide=2357880), Jerry Yang, is an immigrant from Taiwan.

Reform Would Save $410 Billion Over The Next 10 Years
The immigration reform bill proposed by the "gang of eight" senators would save $410 billion over the next decade (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/immigration-reform-save-billions_n_3280145.html?utm_hp_ref=business), according to an analysis from Gordon Gray, the director of fiscal policy at the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank. The savings would come largely from a boost in GDP resulting from undocumented immigrants gaining citizenship and in turn likely making more money.

High-Tech Companies Say Reform Would Boost Their Bottom Line
Companies like Microsoft and Google have said that immigration reform would help them by allowing for more H1B visas (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2013/01/29/facebook-microsoft-back-senate.html), a special kind of visa geared toward highly-skilled immigrants. The tech giants say they can't find enough qualified people in the U.S. to fill their staffing needs.

Reform Would Boost The Wages Of Native-Born Workers
U.S.-born workers see between a 0.1 and 0.6 percent boost in wages on average with an increase in immigration, according to a January report from the Hamilton Project (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/immigration-reform-workers_n_2583576.html), an economic policy initiative of the nonpartisan Brookings Institution. That's because immigrant workers bring skills with them that complement those of native-born workers, leading to new jobs.

Immigrants Are Entrepreneurial
Immigrants are more than twice as likely (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/03/13/economic-case-commonsense-immigration-reform) than native-born Americans to start new businesses, according to a White House report on immigration reform.

Reform Would Boost GDP By More Than $1 Trillion Over 10 Years
Immigration reform would boost GDP by $1.5 trillion (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100449802) -- or about 1 percent -- over 10 years, according to an estimate from UCLA professor Raul Hinojosa-Ojeda cited by CNBC.

Immigrants Create Jobs
Businesses owned by immigrants created 4.7 million jobs (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/03/13/economic-case-commonsense-immigration-reform) in the U.S. in 2007, according to a White House report on immigration reform.

Reform Would Bring In More Money Than It Costs In Benefits
Though many critics of immigration reform argue against the cost of providing increased public benefits, analysts say higher spending is not a likely consequence. A Congressional Budget Analysis of George W. Bush's 2007 immigration reform proposal found that it would cost the government $23 billion in more public services, but bring in $48 billion in revenue, according to the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/31/worried-about-the-economy-then-pass-immigration-reform/).

Reynard38
05-31-2016, 12:08 PM
If the republicans were serious, really serious about deporting 11 million people I could accomplish it in about a month at NO cost to the taxpayers.
It's very simple. If you employ an illegal you go to jail. Period. If Walmart employs one the CEO goes to jail. No appeal, no amnesty. The roads to the SW would be filled with folks fleeing the country when the $$ ran out.

Of course don't even think about landscaping, building a house, going out to eat, or eating for that matter.
The real reason it won't happen is that those same repubs want the cheap labor so they can continues to line their pockets, and use that cheap, undocumented labor as a weapon against documented workers.

If if anybody should be for mass deportations it's the democrats, but they of course want the votes. Once again the working folks in the middle get bent over and ******. We do not have friends in Washington.

paulf
05-31-2016, 12:13 PM
"We do not have friends in Washington"
So many can say this:

Middle class
Veterans
Students...on and on..

CWSmith
05-31-2016, 12:13 PM
We need to restructure our worker visas to allow for short-term and long-term worker status and we need to INSIST on a living wage and proper care for those that come here to work.

slug
05-31-2016, 01:02 PM
Despite the nativism of Donald Trump's 'shtick', there's a good reason why we need immigration reform: the benefits could be significant.


Reform Would Help Curb The Deficit
Immigration reform would reduce the federal deficit by $2.5 trillion (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-08/business/38371503_1_previous-immigration-bills-immigration-reform-immigration-laws) over the next 10 years, according to an April analysis by the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank.

Expelling Immigrants Is Expensive
Expelling the approximately 11 million undocumented immigrants currently in the United States would cost $2.6 trillion over the next 10 years, according to CNBC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100449802). That's because it costs the government more than $8,000 to deport each person.

Reform Would Help Fix The Social Security Problem
Immigration reform would help bolster Social Security because more legal workers would mean more people contributing payroll taxes to its trust fund, according to an analysis from the Social Security administration (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130508/us-immigration/?utm_hp_ref=arts&ir=arts). Undocumented workers already contribute $15 billion per year (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/immigration-reform-social-security_n_3103500.html) to Social Security.

Immigrants Start Successful Businesses
More than a quarter of technology and engineering firms (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/31/worried-about-the-economy-then-pass-immigration-reform/) started between 1995 and 2005 had a foreign-born owner, according to the Washington Post. One of the founders of Yahoo! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/22/american-companies-founded-by-immigrants_n_3116172.html#slide=2357880), Jerry Yang, is an immigrant from Taiwan.

Reform Would Save $410 Billion Over The Next 10 Years
The immigration reform bill proposed by the "gang of eight" senators would save $410 billion over the next decade (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/immigration-reform-save-billions_n_3280145.html?utm_hp_ref=business), according to an analysis from Gordon Gray, the director of fiscal policy at the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank. The savings would come largely from a boost in GDP resulting from undocumented immigrants gaining citizenship and in turn likely making more money.

High-Tech Companies Say Reform Would Boost Their Bottom Line
Companies like Microsoft and Google have said that immigration reform would help them by allowing for more H1B visas (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2013/01/29/facebook-microsoft-back-senate.html), a special kind of visa geared toward highly-skilled immigrants. The tech giants say they can't find enough qualified people in the U.S. to fill their staffing needs.

Reform Would Boost The Wages Of Native-Born Workers
U.S.-born workers see between a 0.1 and 0.6 percent boost in wages on average with an increase in immigration, according to a January report from the Hamilton Project (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/immigration-reform-workers_n_2583576.html), an economic policy initiative of the nonpartisan Brookings Institution. That's because immigrant workers bring skills with them that complement those of native-born workers, leading to new jobs.

Immigrants Are Entrepreneurial
Immigrants are more than twice as likely (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/03/13/economic-case-commonsense-immigration-reform) than native-born Americans to start new businesses, according to a White House report on immigration reform.

Reform Would Boost GDP By More Than $1 Trillion Over 10 Years
Immigration reform would boost GDP by $1.5 trillion (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100449802) -- or about 1 percent -- over 10 years, according to an estimate from UCLA professor Raul Hinojosa-Ojeda cited by CNBC.

Immigrants Create Jobs
Businesses owned by immigrants created 4.7 million jobs (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/03/13/economic-case-commonsense-immigration-reform) in the U.S. in 2007, according to a White House report on immigration reform.

Reform Would Bring In More Money Than It Costs In Benefits
Though many critics of immigration reform argue against the cost of providing increased public benefits, analysts say higher spending is not a likely consequence. A Congressional Budget Analysis of George W. Bush's 2007 immigration reform proposal found that it would cost the government $23 billion in more public services, but bring in $48 billion in revenue, according to the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/31/worried-about-the-economy-then-pass-immigration-reform/).


Gee....

dont be holding back on us

what are your proposed immigration reforms ?

dont be shy

just spit it out

im waiting