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Donn
02-26-2016, 12:22 AM
The University of Missouri has sacked the liberal harpy, Melissa Click.

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/screenshot_2015-11-09_at_91.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

Link (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/university-missouri-fires-professor-melissa-click/80940690/)

skuthorp
02-26-2016, 12:48 AM
Well she certainly was communicating.

Osborne Russell
02-26-2016, 09:32 AM
The University of Missouri has sacked the liberal harpy, Melissa Click.

She's not a liberal, she's a totalitarian. Anti-rational. Feelings, you know? Liberalism is her biggest enemy.

Osborne Russell
02-26-2016, 09:37 AM
COLUMBIA, Mo. -

ABC 17 News talked to the student journalist who was confronted by former professor Melissa Click in last fall's viral video after Click was terminated Thursday.

Mark Schierbecker told ABC 17 News he thought the UM System Board of Curators did the right thing in firing Click, but said he thought there was still a lot of progress to be made on the university's end.

"The university has a long way to go toward restoring its reputation," Schierbecker said. "For awhile now, I've seen the university take a hostile stance on the First Amendment."

The student journalist said he wanted to bring attention to the larger systematic issue of free speech being attacked on campuses across the country. He said he thought the next thing for MU to do was to educate people on the First Amendment.

http://www.abc17news.com/news/student-journalist-responds-to-melissa-clicks-termination/38203756


Indeed. I was astonished to learn of not just ignorance of the concept of free speech, but active hostility to it. Sufferance has become the default mode. It is suffered to exist, which of course is the negation of it, with a dollop of lip service on top.

The frightened coward seeks the protection of the state; failing that, the protection of the mob.

Because there are more important things than civil liberties. There is the need to take territory and defend it.


Another audience member said she believed Click was being fired for “proxy racism.”

“This is damaging to black people,” she said. “This nonsense of talking around race has got to stop. This is proxy racism. And we need to start talking about the fact that we need to do right by our students; that we’re going to take out a professor — a white woman — who said, ‘I’m going to defend this space for black students who haven’t been heard’ … that is unacceptable.”

http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2016/2/25/foley-responds-faculty-complaints-about-melissa-cl/


More succinctly: "Can I get some muscle over here?"

BrianY
02-26-2016, 09:49 AM
As a liberal, I am continuously dismayed by the lack of liberal values among many of my fellow, particularly many of those on college campuses.

David G
02-26-2016, 10:04 AM
Yes... "liberals" can be unclear on the concept, or fail to live up to their values.

And, yes... "conservatives" can be likewise out of tune.

oznabrag
02-26-2016, 10:53 AM
She's not a liberal, she's a totalitarian. Anti-rational. Feelings, you know? Liberalism is her biggest enemy.

Exactamundo.

Gerarddm
02-26-2016, 11:23 AM
Over the top leads to out the door.

John of Phoenix
02-26-2016, 11:25 AM
Held accountable for her actions. That truly is a liberal concept.

Sky Blue
02-26-2016, 11:30 AM
She should have been terminated months ago. The worm has turned against the liberal haters on college campuses. It is said that alumni donations are down at Missou on account of the crap that has gone on there, and freshman applications for Term 2017 are WAY down, especially among out-of-state applicants. My guess is that the committee that decided her fate really didn't want to go out on a limb for her though I imagine she had any number of sympathizers and supporters among her colleagues.

David G
02-26-2016, 11:51 AM
Liberal haters, eh?

Looks to me like her initial efforts and impulses were anything but hateful. Trying to use her position as a white, a woman, and a faculty member in order to combat systemic racism is a good thing. And then she turned away from the righteousness of her cause to embrace righteous anger. She succumbed to her own demons. Succumbed to the Goldwater Dictum: I would remind you that extremism (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Extremism) in the defense of liberty (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Liberty) is no vice (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Vice)! And let me remind you also that moderation (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Moderation) in the pursuit of justice (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Justice) is no virtue (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Virtue)!

Having been tempted toward stupid, over-the-top, extremism myself during my Vietnam War Protest Years... I can sympathize.

And - because here core cause is a good one - I can sympathize more than a bit.

Sky Blue
02-26-2016, 11:59 AM
If you are a professor of journalism that openly calls for journalists to be assaulted on public property in an attempt suppress press coverage of a matter of public concern, you're a hater.

David G
02-26-2016, 12:06 PM
If you are a professor of journalism that openly calls for journalists to be assaulted on public property in an attempt suppress press coverage of a matter of public concern, you're a hater.

You are a supposedly educated person who can only see the most surface aspects of events. You are a simple soul.

CWSmith
02-26-2016, 12:42 PM
I doubt she will be missed.

Reynard38
02-26-2016, 04:17 PM
Harpy is being too kind. Gives Honest Harpies a bad name.

Osborne Russell
02-26-2016, 04:25 PM
She should have been terminated months ago. The worm has turned against the liberal haters on college campuses.

They're not liberals. They're not Reds, obviously. Too incoherent to have a name based on a philosophy. I think its Profs trying to manufacture their own relevance, and students too dumb to know better but hungry for fun, the most serious fun being pretend politics. Can't have a kegger every weekend.

The Profs will keep their heads down for a while, maybe. The forces that led to this incident are still operating.


It is said that alumni donations are down at Missou on account of the crap that has gone on there, and freshman applications for Term 2017 are WAY down, especially among out-of-state applicants. My guess is that the committee that decided her fate really didn't want to go out on a limb for her though I imagine she had any number of sympathizers and supporters among her colleagues.

I gather that in addition to her supporters, some who deplored her position nevertheless deplored the way she was terminated, i.e. without a hearing. Would have been an excellent chance for the school to proclaim and defend its values, but they went for the hush-up. Most likely for the reasons you say, i.e. money.

Chip-skiff
02-26-2016, 04:26 PM
MIZZOU SACKS CLICK.

What a cool headline! Some people get carried away by the drama of their role in history.

Osborne Russell
02-26-2016, 04:49 PM
Liberal haters, eh?

Looks to me like her initial efforts and impulses were anything but hateful. Trying to use her position as a white, a woman, and a faculty member in order to combat systemic racism is a good thing. And then she turned away from the righteousness of her cause to embrace righteous anger. She succumbed to her own demons. Succumbed to the Goldwater Dictum: I would remind you that extremism (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Extremism) in the defense of liberty (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Liberty) is no vice (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Vice)! And let me remind you also that moderation (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Moderation) in the pursuit of justice (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Justice) is no virtue (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Virtue)!

Having been tempted toward stupid, over-the-top, extremism myself during my Vietnam War Protest Years... I can sympathize.

And - because here core cause is a good one - I can sympathize more than a bit.


1. The Road To Hell is paved with good intentions.

2. Proportion is everything.

3. The "systemic racism" was a chimera built on uncritical media coverage. The hunger striker, grad student, was mad because they cut health insurance for grad students. In town, someone yelled out the N word. What's the school supposed to do, call in a napalm strike? At a rehearsal for a play, some fool yelled out the N word. So the administration should slit their wrists? The real deal was, these things as a springboard into the vogue for "a safe space". Mash it all up and they occupy the commons.

Hardly Viet Nam. The strong impression is of a burning desire to be important, or at least appear important, by virtue (!) of doing important things. The world wasn't unsympathetic, the world was if anything too ready to assume that it couldn't be just a tantrum. But the world couldn't figure out what they were talking about. And so their time in the spotlight came and went.

David G
02-27-2016, 11:41 AM
OR... I'd call that 0/3. Maybe you should back up and take another run at it...

Daniel Noyes
02-27-2016, 11:44 AM
She's not a liberal, she's a totalitarian. Anti-rational. Feelings, you know? Liberalism is her biggest enemy.

in other words a LEFTY

Tom Montgomery
02-27-2016, 12:20 PM
What is the male equivalent of a harpy?

Canoeyawl
02-27-2016, 12:41 PM
A Don...

Osborne Russell
02-29-2016, 12:34 PM
in other words a LEFTY

Once we agree that she's not a liberal, I'll listen.

CPF
02-29-2016, 02:46 PM
What is the male equivalent of a harpy?

Dick Cheney?

I couldn't think of a term either -- I take it to be one of those words that assigns a particular type of nastiness to women, although there are certainly men who deserve the name. ;)

Phillip Allen
02-29-2016, 08:31 PM
some here seem to be conflicted :)

pipefitter
02-29-2016, 10:30 PM
She should have been terminated months ago. The worm has turned against the liberal haters on college campuses. It is said that alumni donations are down at Missou on account of the crap that has gone on there, and freshman applications for Term 2017 are WAY down, especially among out-of-state applicants. My guess is that the committee that decided her fate really didn't want to go out on a limb for her though I imagine she had any number of sympathizers and supporters among her colleagues.

Liberal haters. Isn't that the long title for Progressives?

Sky Blue
03-03-2016, 01:07 AM
Here is a piece with the data on the application decline and the decline in alumni giving. Interesting free market result.

Letting the hustlers run riot on campus, abetted by pandering instructors and administrators, is a good way to erode prestige and desirability on the way to sinking a fine, flagship state university. This data is probably why she got canned and probably why it didn't happen sooner.

http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2016/03/02/who_fired_melissa_click_free_markets__1572.html

Osborne Russell
03-03-2016, 05:17 PM
Here is a piece with the data on the application decline and the decline in alumni giving. Interesting free market result.

Letting the hustlers run riot on campus, abetted by pandering instructors and administrators, is a good way to erode prestige and desirability on the way to sinking a fine, flagship state university. This data is probably why she got canned and probably why it didn't happen sooner.

http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2016/03/02/who_fired_melissa_click_free_markets__1572.html


Yes, but . . .

The U fired the Chancellor, thus appearing to support the strikers. Who's fault was that? Not the hustlers -- including the football team -- but those who allowed themselves to be hustled.

Then when they fired Click, they failed to give her a hearing -- a public butt-kicking -- and so they cement the conclusion that neither civil rights or civil liberties matter, but only money.

Peerie Maa
03-03-2016, 05:32 PM
Here is a piece with the data on the application decline and the decline in alumni giving. Interesting free market result.


http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2016/03/02/who_fired_melissa_click_free_markets__1572.html

It's good to see that intellectual liberty is alive and well in US campuses. ;)

Sky Blue
03-03-2016, 05:41 PM
It's good to see that intellectual liberty is alive and well in US campuses. ;)

It isn't alive and well. Far from it. Haven't you followed the Mizzou threads and my commentary on those?

In your reflexive and unthinking defensiveness about criticisms of the awful state intellectual liberty in Britain, you've confused yourself into thinking that I perceive the same to be well and good here. It's not, but neither have things descended to that awful state here. Yet.

Peerie Maa
03-03-2016, 05:43 PM
It isn't alive and well. Far from it. Haven't you followed the Mizzou threads and my commentary on those?

In your reflexive and unthinking defensiveness about criticisms of the awful state intellectual liberty in Britain, you've confused yourself into thinking that I perceive the same to be well and good here. It's not, but neither have things descended to that awful state here. Yet.

:p:rolleyes::p

can I have my hook back?

Sky Blue
03-03-2016, 05:46 PM
Yes, but . . .

The U fired the Chancellor, thus appearing to support the strikers. Who's fault was that? Not the hustlers -- including the football team -- but those who allowed themselves to be hustled.

Then when they fired Click, they failed to give her a hearing -- a public butt-kicking -- and so they cement the conclusion that neither civil rights or civil liberties matter, but only money.

Oh, there's plenty of blame to go around. Still, I believe the relevant administrators resigned, yes? As far as the professor is concerned, if her rights were violated in some manner, she certainly has her civil remedies. Let us see if she exercises them.