Leathermans and alike

[sbsbw]

I need a leatherman or something similar.

Does anybody have any suggestions/comments about these tools and different brands.

SBSBW

[sbsbw]

I need a leatherman or something similar.

Does anybody have any suggestions/comments about these tools and different brands.

SBSBW

[sbsbw]

I need a leatherman or something similar.

Does anybody have any suggestions/comments about these tools and different brands.

SBSBW

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I have two Leathermen - the result of buying one in Hong Kong and one in Woodbridge. One is a Mark One type the other is the Wave model, which has more bits and is cleverer. In fact the Wave is really heading in a Swiss Army Knife sort of direction whereas the original one is, as it says on it, a "tool". One neat thing about the Mk 1 is the ruler scale on the handle.

Both are good quality items. I have seen some cheap ones that looked a bit doubtful.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I have two Leathermen - the result of buying one in Hong Kong and one in Woodbridge. One is a Mark One type the other is the Wave model, which has more bits and is cleverer. In fact the Wave is really heading in a Swiss Army Knife sort of direction whereas the original one is, as it says on it, a "tool". One neat thing about the Mk 1 is the ruler scale on the handle.

Both are good quality items. I have seen some cheap ones that looked a bit doubtful.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I have two Leathermen - the result of buying one in Hong Kong and one in Woodbridge. One is a Mark One type the other is the Wave model, which has more bits and is cleverer. In fact the Wave is really heading in a Swiss Army Knife sort of direction whereas the original one is, as it says on it, a "tool". One neat thing about the Mk 1 is the ruler scale on the handle.

Both are good quality items. I have seen some cheap ones that looked a bit doubtful.

[Donn]

I carry a Leatherman Wave almost all the time. It has:

--Outside:

Two 1-hand opening and locking knife blades, regular and serrated.

A locking file, double-cut mill on one side and medium diamond on the other.

A locking thin-kerf agressive saw blade.

--Inside:

Needle-nose pliers with wire cutter.

Scissors.

Cap-lifter can-opener.

1 Phillips #2 screwdriver blade.

4 slotted screwdriver blades, 9/16" down to 3/32".

Closed size 4" x 3/4" x 1 1/8"

[Donn]

I carry a Leatherman Wave almost all the time. It has:

--Outside:

Two 1-hand opening and locking knife blades, regular and serrated.

A locking file, double-cut mill on one side and medium diamond on the other.

A locking thin-kerf agressive saw blade.

--Inside:

Needle-nose pliers with wire cutter.

Scissors.

Cap-lifter can-opener.

1 Phillips #2 screwdriver blade.

4 slotted screwdriver blades, 9/16" down to 3/32".

Closed size 4" x 3/4" x 1 1/8"

[Donn]

I carry a Leatherman Wave almost all the time. It has:

--Outside:

Two 1-hand opening and locking knife blades, regular and serrated.

A locking file, double-cut mill on one side and medium diamond on the other.

A locking thin-kerf agressive saw blade.

--Inside:

Needle-nose pliers with wire cutter.

Scissors.

Cap-lifter can-opener.

1 Phillips #2 screwdriver blade.

4 slotted screwdriver blades, 9/16" down to 3/32".

Closed size 4" x 3/4" x 1 1/8"

[sbsbw]

I just saw a leatherman like tool, made by
Bear Cutlery, has anybody heard of the tool.

SBSBW

[sbsbw]

I just saw a leatherman like tool, made by
Bear Cutlery, has anybody heard of the tool.

SBSBW

[sbsbw]

I just saw a leatherman like tool, made by
Bear Cutlery, has anybody heard of the tool.

SBSBW

[Donn]

Bear is an American knifemaker owned by Swiss Army Brands, Inc., the same firm that owns Victorinox. I've never owned one of their knives, but I've handled one of their butterfly knives. It was very poorly constructed.

I'm not sure I'd buy a multi-tool made by a company that makes butterfly knives.

[Donn]

Bear is an American knifemaker owned by Swiss Army Brands, Inc., the same firm that owns Victorinox. I've never owned one of their knives, but I've handled one of their butterfly knives. It was very poorly constructed.

I'm not sure I'd buy a multi-tool made by a company that makes butterfly knives.

[Donn]

Bear is an American knifemaker owned by Swiss Army Brands, Inc., the same firm that owns Victorinox. I've never owned one of their knives, but I've handled one of their butterfly knives. It was very poorly constructed.

I'm not sure I'd buy a multi-tool made by a company that makes butterfly knives.

[Bruce Hooke]

The word I've heard is that the good Leatherman type tools are excellent (if a bit expensive) and that the cheap knock-offs are junk. I heard this from a guy who makes his living as a wilderness guide, mostly in Alaska.

[Bruce Hooke]

The word I've heard is that the good Leatherman type tools are excellent (if a bit expensive) and that the cheap knock-offs are junk. I heard this from a guy who makes his living as a wilderness guide, mostly in Alaska.

[Bruce Hooke]

The word I've heard is that the good Leatherman type tools are excellent (if a bit expensive) and that the cheap knock-offs are junk. I heard this from a guy who makes his living as a wilderness guide, mostly in Alaska.

[Greg Stoll]

I use a gerber needle-nose tool. It has the same functions as a standard leatherman, and they have fixed the problems associated with the older ones (pinching hands, no tool lock). I like it because it can be easily deployed with one hand. It is a bit bulkier than the leatherman, however.

Greg

[Greg Stoll]

I use a gerber needle-nose tool. It has the same functions as a standard leatherman, and they have fixed the problems associated with the older ones (pinching hands, no tool lock). I like it because it can be easily deployed with one hand. It is a bit bulkier than the leatherman, however.

Greg

[Greg Stoll]

I use a gerber needle-nose tool. It has the same functions as a standard leatherman, and they have fixed the problems associated with the older ones (pinching hands, no tool lock). I like it because it can be easily deployed with one hand. It is a bit bulkier than the leatherman, however.

Greg

[Bob Smalser]

I use them every day. Bet I've broken a dozen of various brands in 20 years.

The SOG is a bigger, sturdier tool that has lasted longer than all the Leatherman and Gerber tools combines.

SOG..."Power Plus" model...Edmonds, WA.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL12/1104763/4921404/62497596.jpg

[Bob Smalser]

I use them every day. Bet I've broken a dozen of various brands in 20 years.

The SOG is a bigger, sturdier tool that has lasted longer than all the Leatherman and Gerber tools combines.

SOG..."Power Plus" model...Edmonds, WA.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL12/1104763/4921404/62497596.jpg

[Bob Smalser]

I use them every day. Bet I've broken a dozen of various brands in 20 years.

The SOG is a bigger, sturdier tool that has lasted longer than all the Leatherman and Gerber tools combines.

SOG..."Power Plus" model...Edmonds, WA.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL12/1104763/4921404/62497596.jpg

[Figment]

Practical Sailor recently did a test of a dozen or so multitools. It wasn't worth paying for, but the next time you're in a library or a west marine it'll be worth your five minutes to scan through the end results.

I've had a Gerber Legend for about three years now.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000051WSH.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

One could say that she's a tad on the bulky side, as multitools go, but I find the shape very comfortable. If only it floated!!!

[Figment]

Practical Sailor recently did a test of a dozen or so multitools. It wasn't worth paying for, but the next time you're in a library or a west marine it'll be worth your five minutes to scan through the end results.

I've had a Gerber Legend for about three years now.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000051WSH.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

One could say that she's a tad on the bulky side, as multitools go, but I find the shape very comfortable. If only it floated!!!

[Figment]

Practical Sailor recently did a test of a dozen or so multitools. It wasn't worth paying for, but the next time you're in a library or a west marine it'll be worth your five minutes to scan through the end results.

I've had a Gerber Legend for about three years now.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000051WSH.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

One could say that she's a tad on the bulky side, as multitools go, but I find the shape very comfortable. If only it floated!!!

[Donn]

I have a huge float (me!) hooked to my Wave, via a coiled cord.

[Donn]

I have a huge float (me!) hooked to my Wave, via a coiled cord.

[Donn]

I have a huge float (me!) hooked to my Wave, via a coiled cord.

[htom]

SOG Paratool is the one I carry. I was given a Kershaw which is very good but too big and heavy to carry in a pocket or on your belt (at least for me); I have it in my small tool roll rather than a small Vice-Grip.

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/xtra/multis.html

[htom]

SOG Paratool is the one I carry. I was given a Kershaw which is very good but too big and heavy to carry in a pocket or on your belt (at least for me); I have it in my small tool roll rather than a small Vice-Grip.

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/xtra/multis.html

[htom]

SOG Paratool is the one I carry. I was given a Kershaw which is very good but too big and heavy to carry in a pocket or on your belt (at least for me); I have it in my small tool roll rather than a small Vice-Grip.

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/xtra/multis.html

[Billy Bones]

I carry a Swisstool a lot. To my eye it is the least 'trendy' most well made of the lot. Mine sees lots of salt water and doesn't suffer from dissimilar metal problems, and it has no plastic to come unstuck. I haven't tried the SOG but the swilltool beats the leatherman and gerber hands down for every day use. I just used it to fix my welder.

Happy shopping

[Billy Bones]

I carry a Swisstool a lot. To my eye it is the least 'trendy' most well made of the lot. Mine sees lots of salt water and doesn't suffer from dissimilar metal problems, and it has no plastic to come unstuck. I haven't tried the SOG but the swilltool beats the leatherman and gerber hands down for every day use. I just used it to fix my welder.

Happy shopping

[Billy Bones]

I carry a Swisstool a lot. To my eye it is the least 'trendy' most well made of the lot. Mine sees lots of salt water and doesn't suffer from dissimilar metal problems, and it has no plastic to come unstuck. I haven't tried the SOG but the swilltool beats the leatherman and gerber hands down for every day use. I just used it to fix my welder.

Happy shopping

[Donn]

I'll take that challenge, Billy! My Leatherman Wave lives in salt air and saltwater 24/7. To my eye, it's a very practical looking and performing tool, especially since I soaked it in CLR to remove the shiny finish.

The only feature I wish it had is the angled plier head that the SOG Paratool features. Apart from that, the Wave's comfort grip, outside accessible and 1-hand opening tools are superior to all others.

That said, I may have to sell or lose it, because I just looked up the new version, and they've replaced the screwdrivers with two bit sockets, and added a ruler.

I just dead-headed some Shasta Daisies with it. :D

[Donn]

I'll take that challenge, Billy! My Leatherman Wave lives in salt air and saltwater 24/7. To my eye, it's a very practical looking and performing tool, especially since I soaked it in CLR to remove the shiny finish.

The only feature I wish it had is the angled plier head that the SOG Paratool features. Apart from that, the Wave's comfort grip, outside accessible and 1-hand opening tools are superior to all others.

That said, I may have to sell or lose it, because I just looked up the new version, and they've replaced the screwdrivers with two bit sockets, and added a ruler.

I just dead-headed some Shasta Daisies with it. :D

[Donn]

I'll take that challenge, Billy! My Leatherman Wave lives in salt air and saltwater 24/7. To my eye, it's a very practical looking and performing tool, especially since I soaked it in CLR to remove the shiny finish.

The only feature I wish it had is the angled plier head that the SOG Paratool features. Apart from that, the Wave's comfort grip, outside accessible and 1-hand opening tools are superior to all others.

That said, I may have to sell or lose it, because I just looked up the new version, and they've replaced the screwdrivers with two bit sockets, and added a ruler.

I just dead-headed some Shasta Daisies with it. :D

[Kev Smyth]

Donn- "since I soaked it in CLR to remove the shiny finish."

A bit more explanation, please! :confused:

[Kev Smyth]

Donn- "since I soaked it in CLR to remove the shiny finish."

A bit more explanation, please! :confused:

[Kev Smyth]

Donn- "since I soaked it in CLR to remove the shiny finish."

A bit more explanation, please! :confused:

[Donn]

It came from Leatherman with a shiny finish on it, that seemed too glitzy for a tool. I soaked it for 24 hours in CLR, and now it's a nice matte gray. It doesn't seem to have affected it's corrosion resistance, as I did it 4 years ago, and it never rusts or corrodes.

[Donn]

It came from Leatherman with a shiny finish on it, that seemed too glitzy for a tool. I soaked it for 24 hours in CLR, and now it's a nice matte gray. It doesn't seem to have affected it's corrosion resistance, as I did it 4 years ago, and it never rusts or corrodes.

[Donn]

It came from Leatherman with a shiny finish on it, that seemed too glitzy for a tool. I soaked it for 24 hours in CLR, and now it's a nice matte gray. It doesn't seem to have affected it's corrosion resistance, as I did it 4 years ago, and it never rusts or corrodes.

[Alan D. Hyde]

Here's an SOG para tool:

http://www.spaceportuk.mcmail.com/products/sogb31.jpg

***

Alan

[Alan D. Hyde]

Here's an SOG para tool:

http://www.spaceportuk.mcmail.com/products/sogb31.jpg

***

Alan

[Alan D. Hyde]

Here's an SOG para tool:

http://www.spaceportuk.mcmail.com/products/sogb31.jpg

***

Alan

[Donn]

SOG makes some nice stuff. I have one of their first multi's, a Toolclip. It's too large for the pocket, and not very comfortable to grip. The clip is riveted to the case, so you can't remove it, and it's inconveniently placed for clipping on to clothing. Very stout and well made, though. I keep it by the recliner for evening use.

I've coveted the SOG Seal sheath knife for some time now. It's probably the best surfcasting knife out there. If I lose or retire the Kershaw Amphibian that's on my surf belt now, I'll get one.

I love knives. :D

[Donn]

SOG makes some nice stuff. I have one of their first multi's, a Toolclip. It's too large for the pocket, and not very comfortable to grip. The clip is riveted to the case, so you can't remove it, and it's inconveniently placed for clipping on to clothing. Very stout and well made, though. I keep it by the recliner for evening use.

I've coveted the SOG Seal sheath knife for some time now. It's probably the best surfcasting knife out there. If I lose or retire the Kershaw Amphibian that's on my surf belt now, I'll get one.

I love knives. :D

[Donn]

SOG makes some nice stuff. I have one of their first multi's, a Toolclip. It's too large for the pocket, and not very comfortable to grip. The clip is riveted to the case, so you can't remove it, and it's inconveniently placed for clipping on to clothing. Very stout and well made, though. I keep it by the recliner for evening use.

I've coveted the SOG Seal sheath knife for some time now. It's probably the best surfcasting knife out there. If I lose or retire the Kershaw Amphibian that's on my surf belt now, I'll get one.

I love knives. :D

[Kev Smyth]

Well, is this cool or what!! I just returned from a trip to the Pull-A- Part auto wrecking yard where I found a Leatherman "Wave" wrapped in a rag on the floor of a Q-45. :D It appears the tool had been used to steal the car, as the ignition was a mess, and the tool has two of the smaller implements on the scissors side broken off. :( :eek: Other than that, perfect. I'll have to see if I can purchase replacement implements- looks like maybe an awl and small straight screwdriver are missing.

What is CLR? Wouldn't it dull the blade edges?

[ 09-24-2004, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Kev Smyth ]

[Kev Smyth]

Well, is this cool or what!! I just returned from a trip to the Pull-A- Part auto wrecking yard where I found a Leatherman "Wave" wrapped in a rag on the floor of a Q-45. :D It appears the tool had been used to steal the car, as the ignition was a mess, and the tool has two of the smaller implements on the scissors side broken off. :( :eek: Other than that, perfect. I'll have to see if I can purchase replacement implements- looks like maybe an awl and small straight screwdriver are missing.

What is CLR? Wouldn't it dull the blade edges?

[ 09-24-2004, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Kev Smyth ]

[Kev Smyth]

Well, is this cool or what!! I just returned from a trip to the Pull-A- Part auto wrecking yard where I found a Leatherman "Wave" wrapped in a rag on the floor of a Q-45. :D It appears the tool had been used to steal the car, as the ignition was a mess, and the tool has two of the smaller implements on the scissors side broken off. :( :eek: Other than that, perfect. I'll have to see if I can purchase replacement implements- looks like maybe an awl and small straight screwdriver are missing.

What is CLR? Wouldn't it dull the blade edges?

[ 09-24-2004, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Kev Smyth ]

[Brian Palmer]

I have a genuine Leatherman. I broke the blade doing something stupid and they fixed it for free. No questions asked. Even after I told them it was my fault!

They get my vote.

--- Brian

[Brian Palmer]

I have a genuine Leatherman. I broke the blade doing something stupid and they fixed it for free. No questions asked. Even after I told them it was my fault!

They get my vote.

--- Brian

[Brian Palmer]

I have a genuine Leatherman. I broke the blade doing something stupid and they fixed it for free. No questions asked. Even after I told them it was my fault!

They get my vote.

--- Brian

[Ian McColgin]

Like Brian, I broke a Leatherman. Shoved the blade in a tight spot. Swatted it with a hammer. Then pry and break. And they were fine. - said just send it in. In fact, I didn't as I'd reground the blade to a sheep's foot and was happy thus.

I've since moved on to the Wave which around here we call the LeatherMaster, to distinguish from the original LeatherMan and the smaller as we call it LeatherBoy.

Homoerotic overtones aside - manly tool discussions can get way too far over the top - my LM lives in a modified Buck sheath on my hip unless I'm contemplating actual immersion, in which case it goes in the original nylon sheath that I've modified with a bungee slip keeper to keep the toung from seperating from the velcro.

SOG and Gerber are good tools. I think that preference is how use use the tool and how it fits your hand. I especially like the fact that I can deploy a cutting blade or the pliars one-handed. For my value, that puts the LeatherMaster (Wave) completly beyond the others.

[Ian McColgin]

Like Brian, I broke a Leatherman. Shoved the blade in a tight spot. Swatted it with a hammer. Then pry and break. And they were fine. - said just send it in. In fact, I didn't as I'd reground the blade to a sheep's foot and was happy thus.

I've since moved on to the Wave which around here we call the LeatherMaster, to distinguish from the original LeatherMan and the smaller as we call it LeatherBoy.

Homoerotic overtones aside - manly tool discussions can get way too far over the top - my LM lives in a modified Buck sheath on my hip unless I'm contemplating actual immersion, in which case it goes in the original nylon sheath that I've modified with a bungee slip keeper to keep the toung from seperating from the velcro.

SOG and Gerber are good tools. I think that preference is how use use the tool and how it fits your hand. I especially like the fact that I can deploy a cutting blade or the pliars one-handed. For my value, that puts the LeatherMaster (Wave) completly beyond the others.

[Ian McColgin]

Like Brian, I broke a Leatherman. Shoved the blade in a tight spot. Swatted it with a hammer. Then pry and break. And they were fine. - said just send it in. In fact, I didn't as I'd reground the blade to a sheep's foot and was happy thus.

I've since moved on to the Wave which around here we call the LeatherMaster, to distinguish from the original LeatherMan and the smaller as we call it LeatherBoy.

Homoerotic overtones aside - manly tool discussions can get way too far over the top - my LM lives in a modified Buck sheath on my hip unless I'm contemplating actual immersion, in which case it goes in the original nylon sheath that I've modified with a bungee slip keeper to keep the toung from seperating from the velcro.

SOG and Gerber are good tools. I think that preference is how use use the tool and how it fits your hand. I especially like the fact that I can deploy a cutting blade or the pliars one-handed. For my value, that puts the LeatherMaster (Wave) completly beyond the others.

[sbsbw]

geesh,

This is like walking into your local truck garage and asking "What brand is best, Ford, Dodge, or GM?"

I the big reason for needing one of these tools is that I'm working in a local theather, and need something with plyers and a screwdriver on the same tool.

I looked at the SOG, it look like it would be easist tool to open one handed. Can anybody attest to this (SOG or any other brand)

SBSBW

[sbsbw]

geesh,

This is like walking into your local truck garage and asking "What brand is best, Ford, Dodge, or GM?"

I the big reason for needing one of these tools is that I'm working in a local theather, and need something with plyers and a screwdriver on the same tool.

I looked at the SOG, it look like it would be easist tool to open one handed. Can anybody attest to this (SOG or any other brand)

SBSBW

[sbsbw]

geesh,

This is like walking into your local truck garage and asking "What brand is best, Ford, Dodge, or GM?"

I the big reason for needing one of these tools is that I'm working in a local theather, and need something with plyers and a screwdriver on the same tool.

I looked at the SOG, it look like it would be easist tool to open one handed. Can anybody attest to this (SOG or any other brand)

SBSBW

[Donn]

wave

[Donn]

wave

[Donn]

wave

[htom]

You can do the ParaTool one-handed but it's a trick you have to learn. The alternative is to loosen it up a bit and then it's easy, but it will then fold up and bite you.

[htom]

You can do the ParaTool one-handed but it's a trick you have to learn. The alternative is to loosen it up a bit and then it's easy, but it will then fold up and bite you.

[htom]

You can do the ParaTool one-handed but it's a trick you have to learn. The alternative is to loosen it up a bit and then it's easy, but it will then fold up and bite you.

[Ian McColgin]

On the Leatherman Wave, the two sharp blades can be opened one handed quite easily. The other two outside blades, a file and a saw, require two hands. The pliars can be exposed with the snap of a wrist, assuming that you keep the knife maintained. Once the pliars are exposed, one side has a small nubbin for attaching a ring to hold a lanyard. If you leave this out all the time by having at least a ring through it, then flicking that with your thumb will bring up either or both the phillips head and large screw driver. That's because the nubbin is located between those two blades. On the other side, all the blades can be brought up one-handed if you hold the tool cupped in your palm from the bottom and move a fingernail back down the blade slot till you catch the pull tangs of the scissors and medium small screw driver. Usually at least two screw drivers and the scissors will come up, sometimes the smallest as well.

In practice, I always one-hand for the knives and pliars, often for the large screwdriver and phillips head. Anything else, easier with two hands.

[Ian McColgin]

On the Leatherman Wave, the two sharp blades can be opened one handed quite easily. The other two outside blades, a file and a saw, require two hands. The pliars can be exposed with the snap of a wrist, assuming that you keep the knife maintained. Once the pliars are exposed, one side has a small nubbin for attaching a ring to hold a lanyard. If you leave this out all the time by having at least a ring through it, then flicking that with your thumb will bring up either or both the phillips head and large screw driver. That's because the nubbin is located between those two blades. On the other side, all the blades can be brought up one-handed if you hold the tool cupped in your palm from the bottom and move a fingernail back down the blade slot till you catch the pull tangs of the scissors and medium small screw driver. Usually at least two screw drivers and the scissors will come up, sometimes the smallest as well.

In practice, I always one-hand for the knives and pliars, often for the large screwdriver and phillips head. Anything else, easier with two hands.

[Ian McColgin]

On the Leatherman Wave, the two sharp blades can be opened one handed quite easily. The other two outside blades, a file and a saw, require two hands. The pliars can be exposed with the snap of a wrist, assuming that you keep the knife maintained. Once the pliars are exposed, one side has a small nubbin for attaching a ring to hold a lanyard. If you leave this out all the time by having at least a ring through it, then flicking that with your thumb will bring up either or both the phillips head and large screw driver. That's because the nubbin is located between those two blades. On the other side, all the blades can be brought up one-handed if you hold the tool cupped in your palm from the bottom and move a fingernail back down the blade slot till you catch the pull tangs of the scissors and medium small screw driver. Usually at least two screw drivers and the scissors will come up, sometimes the smallest as well.

In practice, I always one-hand for the knives and pliars, often for the large screwdriver and phillips head. Anything else, easier with two hands.

[cs]

I don't own a multi-tool, but I have used many of them. I seem to like the Gerber the best.

Chad

[cs]

I don't own a multi-tool, but I have used many of them. I seem to like the Gerber the best.

Chad

[cs]

I don't own a multi-tool, but I have used many of them. I seem to like the Gerber the best.

Chad

[essaunders]

Ok. I'll add my bit -- though it may be a little late.

I carry (and have carried almost daily for 5 years) a Leatherman PST II. I'd move 'up' to a Wave, but the Wave is bigger (costs more too) and the PST II does everything I need it to do.

I have tried several of the gerber multitools and found them lacking -- though much better than the 'no brand' cheap knock-offs.

[essaunders]

Ok. I'll add my bit -- though it may be a little late.

I carry (and have carried almost daily for 5 years) a Leatherman PST II. I'd move 'up' to a Wave, but the Wave is bigger (costs more too) and the PST II does everything I need it to do.

I have tried several of the gerber multitools and found them lacking -- though much better than the 'no brand' cheap knock-offs.

[essaunders]

Ok. I'll add my bit -- though it may be a little late.

I carry (and have carried almost daily for 5 years) a Leatherman PST II. I'd move 'up' to a Wave, but the Wave is bigger (costs more too) and the PST II does everything I need it to do.

I have tried several of the gerber multitools and found them lacking -- though much better than the 'no brand' cheap knock-offs.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Kev Smyth:

What is CLR? Wouldn't it dull the blade edges?Calcium/Lime/Rust remover. Its a mixture of:
Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
Sulfamic acid 005329-14-6 3-6
Hydroxyacetic acid 000079-14-1 13-16
Citric acid 000077-92-9 1-4
2-Butoxyethanol 000111-76-2 1-4
Disodium capryloamphodipropionate 068815-55-4 4-7
Water 007732-18-5 68-74

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Kev Smyth:

What is CLR? Wouldn't it dull the blade edges?Calcium/Lime/Rust remover. Its a mixture of:
Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
Sulfamic acid 005329-14-6 3-6
Hydroxyacetic acid 000079-14-1 13-16
Citric acid 000077-92-9 1-4
2-Butoxyethanol 000111-76-2 1-4
Disodium capryloamphodipropionate 068815-55-4 4-7
Water 007732-18-5 68-74

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Kev Smyth:

What is CLR? Wouldn't it dull the blade edges?Calcium/Lime/Rust remover. Its a mixture of:
Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
Sulfamic acid 005329-14-6 3-6
Hydroxyacetic acid 000079-14-1 13-16
Citric acid 000077-92-9 1-4
2-Butoxyethanol 000111-76-2 1-4
Disodium capryloamphodipropionate 068815-55-4 4-7
Water 007732-18-5 68-74

[Rob Hazard]

A couple days ago I pulled my original Leatherman too out of the pocket of my PFD. It was rusted solid! I now have it soaking in Kroil to try to free it up.
I _assumed_ that it was all stainless! OOPS!

[Rob Hazard]

A couple days ago I pulled my original Leatherman too out of the pocket of my PFD. It was rusted solid! I now have it soaking in Kroil to try to free it up.
I _assumed_ that it was all stainless! OOPS!

[Rob Hazard]

A couple days ago I pulled my original Leatherman too out of the pocket of my PFD. It was rusted solid! I now have it soaking in Kroil to try to free it up.
I _assumed_ that it was all stainless! OOPS!

[Ian McColgin]

Rob reiterates a good point. Many folk get as far as attaching a light, whistle and knife to their PFDs but neglect normal maintenance. Batteries expire just sitting there and anything will corrode.

When you need the knife in your PFD, you need it promptly with easy access.

Total aside, I've modified a couple of knives to be better sailing and boating knives in that they are better worn around the neck. I never liked the dangle, but if you put a hoop at the other end and have a clip on both ends of your lanyard, then you can wear the knife around your neck without so much bouncing of the pendant-like knife looking for something with which to tangle.

This sort of necklace is comfortable to wear at all times, even off watch and in my berth.

[Ian McColgin]

Rob reiterates a good point. Many folk get as far as attaching a light, whistle and knife to their PFDs but neglect normal maintenance. Batteries expire just sitting there and anything will corrode.

When you need the knife in your PFD, you need it promptly with easy access.

Total aside, I've modified a couple of knives to be better sailing and boating knives in that they are better worn around the neck. I never liked the dangle, but if you put a hoop at the other end and have a clip on both ends of your lanyard, then you can wear the knife around your neck without so much bouncing of the pendant-like knife looking for something with which to tangle.

This sort of necklace is comfortable to wear at all times, even off watch and in my berth.

[Ian McColgin]

Rob reiterates a good point. Many folk get as far as attaching a light, whistle and knife to their PFDs but neglect normal maintenance. Batteries expire just sitting there and anything will corrode.

When you need the knife in your PFD, you need it promptly with easy access.

Total aside, I've modified a couple of knives to be better sailing and boating knives in that they are better worn around the neck. I never liked the dangle, but if you put a hoop at the other end and have a clip on both ends of your lanyard, then you can wear the knife around your neck without so much bouncing of the pendant-like knife looking for something with which to tangle.

This sort of necklace is comfortable to wear at all times, even off watch and in my berth.

[Rob Hazard]

My Leatherman is back in working condition, but I have learned my lesson (he says! :D )

The rust occurred only where moving parts were in close contact - the rest is all shiny and bright!

On my PFD, I will replace it with a _Benchmade Rescue Hook_, a one-piece rope cutting tool with a big finger loop for a handle. This looks like a much safer and more practical implement for the perceived need.

[Rob Hazard]

My Leatherman is back in working condition, but I have learned my lesson (he says! :D )

The rust occurred only where moving parts were in close contact - the rest is all shiny and bright!

On my PFD, I will replace it with a _Benchmade Rescue Hook_, a one-piece rope cutting tool with a big finger loop for a handle. This looks like a much safer and more practical implement for the perceived need.

[Rob Hazard]

My Leatherman is back in working condition, but I have learned my lesson (he says! :D )

The rust occurred only where moving parts were in close contact - the rest is all shiny and bright!

On my PFD, I will replace it with a _Benchmade Rescue Hook_, a one-piece rope cutting tool with a big finger loop for a handle. This looks like a much safer and more practical implement for the perceived need.