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Garrett Lowell
03-12-2004, 04:46 PM
Can anyone recommend someone to do some cast iron welding? It's just a small part, and I can ship it. Thanks.

Garrett

Garrett Lowell
03-12-2004, 04:46 PM
Can anyone recommend someone to do some cast iron welding? It's just a small part, and I can ship it. Thanks.

Garrett

Garrett Lowell
03-12-2004, 04:46 PM
Can anyone recommend someone to do some cast iron welding? It's just a small part, and I can ship it. Thanks.

Garrett

Ed Harrow
03-12-2004, 05:25 PM
Garrett, I know one guy, Dave Erickson of Erickson's Antique Stoves in Littleton, MA. He's typically hard to reach, but this is representative of his work:

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/GW.JPG

No, it didn't start out as a bunch of shattered pieces, but he does do nice work, and this did require some welding.

Ed Harrow
03-12-2004, 05:25 PM
Garrett, I know one guy, Dave Erickson of Erickson's Antique Stoves in Littleton, MA. He's typically hard to reach, but this is representative of his work:

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/GW.JPG

No, it didn't start out as a bunch of shattered pieces, but he does do nice work, and this did require some welding.

Ed Harrow
03-12-2004, 05:25 PM
Garrett, I know one guy, Dave Erickson of Erickson's Antique Stoves in Littleton, MA. He's typically hard to reach, but this is representative of his work:

http://home.fiam.net/eeharrow/GW.JPG

No, it didn't start out as a bunch of shattered pieces, but he does do nice work, and this did require some welding.

gary porter
03-12-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Garrett Lowell:
Can anyone recommend someone to do some cast iron welding? It's just a small part, and I can ship it. Thanks.

GarrettGarrett, any local shop that knows what they are doing should be able to weld it. Just takes the proper rod,, can't remember which one but I have some and you should be able to get it just about anywhere,,even Home Depot. You need to preheat the work and let it cool slowly.
Gary

gary porter
03-12-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Garrett Lowell:
Can anyone recommend someone to do some cast iron welding? It's just a small part, and I can ship it. Thanks.

GarrettGarrett, any local shop that knows what they are doing should be able to weld it. Just takes the proper rod,, can't remember which one but I have some and you should be able to get it just about anywhere,,even Home Depot. You need to preheat the work and let it cool slowly.
Gary

gary porter
03-12-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Garrett Lowell:
Can anyone recommend someone to do some cast iron welding? It's just a small part, and I can ship it. Thanks.

GarrettGarrett, any local shop that knows what they are doing should be able to weld it. Just takes the proper rod,, can't remember which one but I have some and you should be able to get it just about anywhere,,even Home Depot. You need to preheat the work and let it cool slowly.
Gary

Ed Harrow
03-12-2004, 06:21 PM
Then there is this guy:

http://www.martellmetal.com/Main.html

He's a childhood friend - I know he'd do it.

sorry about the picture size :(

Ed Harrow
03-12-2004, 06:21 PM
Then there is this guy:

http://www.martellmetal.com/Main.html

He's a childhood friend - I know he'd do it.

sorry about the picture size :(

Ed Harrow
03-12-2004, 06:21 PM
Then there is this guy:

http://www.martellmetal.com/Main.html

He's a childhood friend - I know he'd do it.

sorry about the picture size :(

NormMessinger
03-12-2004, 08:17 PM
Actually there is a lot more to proper welding of cast iron than using the proper fill metal. It probably depends on the type of cast iron but in general the base metal needs to be heated to a certain temperature then welded and then kept in an oven to very slowly cool. Otherwise the crystaline structure of the iron is lost and it will likely break again. Some outfits will stick the pieces together by braze welding which may be satisfactory for some applications but it will not be invisible.

NormMessinger
03-12-2004, 08:17 PM
Actually there is a lot more to proper welding of cast iron than using the proper fill metal. It probably depends on the type of cast iron but in general the base metal needs to be heated to a certain temperature then welded and then kept in an oven to very slowly cool. Otherwise the crystaline structure of the iron is lost and it will likely break again. Some outfits will stick the pieces together by braze welding which may be satisfactory for some applications but it will not be invisible.

NormMessinger
03-12-2004, 08:17 PM
Actually there is a lot more to proper welding of cast iron than using the proper fill metal. It probably depends on the type of cast iron but in general the base metal needs to be heated to a certain temperature then welded and then kept in an oven to very slowly cool. Otherwise the crystaline structure of the iron is lost and it will likely break again. Some outfits will stick the pieces together by braze welding which may be satisfactory for some applications but it will not be invisible.

Bob Smalser
03-13-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by NormMessinger:
Actually there is a lot more to proper welding of cast iron than using the proper fill metal. It probably depends on the type of cast iron but in general the base metal needs to be heated to a certain temperature then welded and then kept in an oven to very slowly cool. Otherwise the crystaline structure of the iron is lost and it will likely break again. Some outfits will stick the pieces together by braze welding which may be satisfactory for some applications but it will not be invisible.That is absolutely correct....I have a weldor pal who does it very reluctantly because of the high failure rate...there are at least 4 different compositions of "cast iron" difficult to tell apart....and most castings are full of impurities causing unpleasant surprises.

The castings are preheated slowly in a kiln to 1200 degrees...then welded with nickle rod (arc) or cast iron gas rod...then packed in a steel bucket full of lime and allowed to cool for literally days before removing.

Bronze brazing, where the casting only has to be preheated to 350 degrees and the base metal doesn't have to be heated higher than the relatively low melting temperature of the bronze is a much more reliable repair where practical.

[ 03-13-2004, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

Bob Smalser
03-13-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by NormMessinger:
Actually there is a lot more to proper welding of cast iron than using the proper fill metal. It probably depends on the type of cast iron but in general the base metal needs to be heated to a certain temperature then welded and then kept in an oven to very slowly cool. Otherwise the crystaline structure of the iron is lost and it will likely break again. Some outfits will stick the pieces together by braze welding which may be satisfactory for some applications but it will not be invisible.That is absolutely correct....I have a weldor pal who does it very reluctantly because of the high failure rate...there are at least 4 different compositions of "cast iron" difficult to tell apart....and most castings are full of impurities causing unpleasant surprises.

The castings are preheated slowly in a kiln to 1200 degrees...then welded with nickle rod (arc) or cast iron gas rod...then packed in a steel bucket full of lime and allowed to cool for literally days before removing.

Bronze brazing, where the casting only has to be preheated to 350 degrees and the base metal doesn't have to be heated higher than the relatively low melting temperature of the bronze is a much more reliable repair where practical.

[ 03-13-2004, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

Bob Smalser
03-13-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by NormMessinger:
Actually there is a lot more to proper welding of cast iron than using the proper fill metal. It probably depends on the type of cast iron but in general the base metal needs to be heated to a certain temperature then welded and then kept in an oven to very slowly cool. Otherwise the crystaline structure of the iron is lost and it will likely break again. Some outfits will stick the pieces together by braze welding which may be satisfactory for some applications but it will not be invisible.That is absolutely correct....I have a weldor pal who does it very reluctantly because of the high failure rate...there are at least 4 different compositions of "cast iron" difficult to tell apart....and most castings are full of impurities causing unpleasant surprises.

The castings are preheated slowly in a kiln to 1200 degrees...then welded with nickle rod (arc) or cast iron gas rod...then packed in a steel bucket full of lime and allowed to cool for literally days before removing.

Bronze brazing, where the casting only has to be preheated to 350 degrees and the base metal doesn't have to be heated higher than the relatively low melting temperature of the bronze is a much more reliable repair where practical.

[ 03-13-2004, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

Garrett Lowell
03-16-2004, 09:32 AM
Thanks everyone. I know this is tricky work, and I only want to go with a recommendation. Ed, can you get me the contact information for Dave Erickson?

Garrett Lowell
03-16-2004, 09:32 AM
Thanks everyone. I know this is tricky work, and I only want to go with a recommendation. Ed, can you get me the contact information for Dave Erickson?

Garrett Lowell
03-16-2004, 09:32 AM
Thanks everyone. I know this is tricky work, and I only want to go with a recommendation. Ed, can you get me the contact information for Dave Erickson?

rregge
03-17-2004, 09:27 AM
Erickson's Antique Stoves in Littleton has a great reputation for the work they do on old stoves. His work has been shhown in many of the high end designer magazines (or so my wife says). Don't know if it helps but I live in the next town over and would be happy to help in any way I can.

Russell

rregge
03-17-2004, 09:27 AM
Erickson's Antique Stoves in Littleton has a great reputation for the work they do on old stoves. His work has been shhown in many of the high end designer magazines (or so my wife says). Don't know if it helps but I live in the next town over and would be happy to help in any way I can.

Russell

rregge
03-17-2004, 09:27 AM
Erickson's Antique Stoves in Littleton has a great reputation for the work they do on old stoves. His work has been shhown in many of the high end designer magazines (or so my wife says). Don't know if it helps but I live in the next town over and would be happy to help in any way I can.

Russell

Ed Harrow
03-17-2004, 12:51 PM
Garrett, Russell sounds like a bet!

Dave's phone number - 508 486 3589 (the area code may now be 978, I'm not certain).

He's a very difficult guy to catch.

2 Taylor St
PO Box 2275
Littleton, MA 01460

Ed Harrow
03-17-2004, 12:51 PM
Garrett, Russell sounds like a bet!

Dave's phone number - 508 486 3589 (the area code may now be 978, I'm not certain).

He's a very difficult guy to catch.

2 Taylor St
PO Box 2275
Littleton, MA 01460

Ed Harrow
03-17-2004, 12:51 PM
Garrett, Russell sounds like a bet!

Dave's phone number - 508 486 3589 (the area code may now be 978, I'm not certain).

He's a very difficult guy to catch.

2 Taylor St
PO Box 2275
Littleton, MA 01460

rregge
03-17-2004, 01:08 PM
The area code is now 978

rregge
03-17-2004, 01:08 PM
The area code is now 978

rregge
03-17-2004, 01:08 PM
The area code is now 978

Garrett Lowell
03-17-2004, 05:00 PM
Wow, thanks a million guys! I appreciate it.

Garrett Lowell
03-17-2004, 05:00 PM
Wow, thanks a million guys! I appreciate it.

Garrett Lowell
03-17-2004, 05:00 PM
Wow, thanks a million guys! I appreciate it.