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Ross Faneuf
03-15-2001, 12:44 PM
I have a couple of the old S3 2:1 mixing pumps, which are on their last legs. System Three doesn't sell these pumps anymore. They recommend using a sensitive scale (like a lab scale) and mixing by weight. I'm not enthused. Clearly this is workable, but I have habits and a setup based on pumps, and am not set up to dispense, in particular, small quantities by weight.

I'll go that route if I have to. What do you more recent adopters of S3 do? Is there another source of 2:1 pumps I could use? Do you do weighing and like it? Or what else?

Ross Faneuf
03-15-2001, 12:44 PM
I have a couple of the old S3 2:1 mixing pumps, which are on their last legs. System Three doesn't sell these pumps anymore. They recommend using a sensitive scale (like a lab scale) and mixing by weight. I'm not enthused. Clearly this is workable, but I have habits and a setup based on pumps, and am not set up to dispense, in particular, small quantities by weight.

I'll go that route if I have to. What do you more recent adopters of S3 do? Is there another source of 2:1 pumps I could use? Do you do weighing and like it? Or what else?

Ross Faneuf
03-15-2001, 12:44 PM
I have a couple of the old S3 2:1 mixing pumps, which are on their last legs. System Three doesn't sell these pumps anymore. They recommend using a sensitive scale (like a lab scale) and mixing by weight. I'm not enthused. Clearly this is workable, but I have habits and a setup based on pumps, and am not set up to dispense, in particular, small quantities by weight.

I'll go that route if I have to. What do you more recent adopters of S3 do? Is there another source of 2:1 pumps I could use? Do you do weighing and like it? Or what else?

HP3
03-15-2001, 12:52 PM
Ross,
The S3 cat. I recived in Jan. lists "mustard pumps" I belive they still sell these. call and verify. Hank

HP3
03-15-2001, 12:52 PM
Ross,
The S3 cat. I recived in Jan. lists "mustard pumps" I belive they still sell these. call and verify. Hank

HP3
03-15-2001, 12:52 PM
Ross,
The S3 cat. I recived in Jan. lists "mustard pumps" I belive they still sell these. call and verify. Hank

Iceboy
03-15-2001, 03:40 PM
I use large veterinary syringes. They can be purchased at farm stores and co-ops. They are fairly cheap and can be tossed when done.

Iceboy
03-15-2001, 03:40 PM
I use large veterinary syringes. They can be purchased at farm stores and co-ops. They are fairly cheap and can be tossed when done.

Iceboy
03-15-2001, 03:40 PM
I use large veterinary syringes. They can be purchased at farm stores and co-ops. They are fairly cheap and can be tossed when done.

JoJo
03-15-2001, 10:35 PM
Ross
Another Epoxy system, the MAS system I believe also uses a 2:1 mixing ratio. I have never used the MAS system (only the West system) but I know it is availiable from Chesapeake Light Craft. They have calibrated pumps that can be ordered off of their web site. Check them out at http://www.clcboats.com. If the MAS system used a 2:1 mixing ratio you should be able to make their pumps work

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JoJo
03-15-2001, 10:35 PM
Ross
Another Epoxy system, the MAS system I believe also uses a 2:1 mixing ratio. I have never used the MAS system (only the West system) but I know it is availiable from Chesapeake Light Craft. They have calibrated pumps that can be ordered off of their web site. Check them out at http://www.clcboats.com. If the MAS system used a 2:1 mixing ratio you should be able to make their pumps work

[This message has been edited by JoJo (edited 03-15-2001).]

JoJo
03-15-2001, 10:35 PM
Ross
Another Epoxy system, the MAS system I believe also uses a 2:1 mixing ratio. I have never used the MAS system (only the West system) but I know it is availiable from Chesapeake Light Craft. They have calibrated pumps that can be ordered off of their web site. Check them out at http://www.clcboats.com. If the MAS system used a 2:1 mixing ratio you should be able to make their pumps work

[This message has been edited by JoJo (edited 03-15-2001).]

cs
03-16-2001, 06:44 AM
Ross,
I prefer to mix mine by volume. I used the mixing cups that S3 sent me till I ran out than I went to Lowes and found some clear plastic graduated mixing cups and these work great. BTW I still have the pumps that came with my S3 kit back in the summer. E-mail me and maybe I can help you out.

Chad Smith

cs
03-16-2001, 06:44 AM
Ross,
I prefer to mix mine by volume. I used the mixing cups that S3 sent me till I ran out than I went to Lowes and found some clear plastic graduated mixing cups and these work great. BTW I still have the pumps that came with my S3 kit back in the summer. E-mail me and maybe I can help you out.

Chad Smith

cs
03-16-2001, 06:44 AM
Ross,
I prefer to mix mine by volume. I used the mixing cups that S3 sent me till I ran out than I went to Lowes and found some clear plastic graduated mixing cups and these work great. BTW I still have the pumps that came with my S3 kit back in the summer. E-mail me and maybe I can help you out.

Chad Smith

Ross Faneuf
03-16-2001, 09:35 AM
Thanks for the pointer to MAS epoxies. Turns out their site offers a wide variety of mixing pumps, so I'm sure I'll find something there that works.

www.masepoxies.com (http://www.masepoxies.com)

Also, it looks like this outfit is the source of the MAS pumps. This one is the jackpot, folks.

www.michaelengineering.com (http://www.michaelengineering.com)


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Ross Faneuf
03-16-2001, 09:35 AM
Thanks for the pointer to MAS epoxies. Turns out their site offers a wide variety of mixing pumps, so I'm sure I'll find something there that works.

www.masepoxies.com (http://www.masepoxies.com)

Also, it looks like this outfit is the source of the MAS pumps. This one is the jackpot, folks.

www.michaelengineering.com (http://www.michaelengineering.com)


[This message has been edited by Ross Faneuf (edited 03-16-2001).]

Ross Faneuf
03-16-2001, 09:35 AM
Thanks for the pointer to MAS epoxies. Turns out their site offers a wide variety of mixing pumps, so I'm sure I'll find something there that works.

www.masepoxies.com (http://www.masepoxies.com)

Also, it looks like this outfit is the source of the MAS pumps. This one is the jackpot, folks.

www.michaelengineering.com (http://www.michaelengineering.com)


[This message has been edited by Ross Faneuf (edited 03-16-2001).]

NormMessinger
03-16-2001, 12:22 PM
Yes, I've done it again. When I started building the Long EZ a $300 dollar epoxy pump seemed like a lot of money. At the end $300 turned out be be a tiny fraction of the total cost. Should have got a pump.

He never learns.... Now at the almost-end of the Prairie Islander job, same deal.

--Norm

NormMessinger
03-16-2001, 12:22 PM
Yes, I've done it again. When I started building the Long EZ a $300 dollar epoxy pump seemed like a lot of money. At the end $300 turned out be be a tiny fraction of the total cost. Should have got a pump.

He never learns.... Now at the almost-end of the Prairie Islander job, same deal.

--Norm

NormMessinger
03-16-2001, 12:22 PM
Yes, I've done it again. When I started building the Long EZ a $300 dollar epoxy pump seemed like a lot of money. At the end $300 turned out be be a tiny fraction of the total cost. Should have got a pump.

He never learns.... Now at the almost-end of the Prairie Islander job, same deal.

--Norm

JimConlin
03-20-2001, 01:03 AM
And who sells the (geared?) $300 pumps?
Jim

JimConlin
03-20-2001, 01:03 AM
And who sells the (geared?) $300 pumps?
Jim

JimConlin
03-20-2001, 01:03 AM
And who sells the (geared?) $300 pumps?
Jim

Ross Faneuf
03-20-2001, 09:43 AM
Maybe the geared pumps cost $300 when Reagan was president. Now they're much more - see the michaelengineering web site. I figure we amateurs don't need a geared pump, since we'll probably never push enough epoxy through to justify it. And I have two pumps, one for each of the S3 Fast/Medium hardeners, so I'm not about to run the costs up that much. Even the larger of the piston pumps is pushing $600.

Ross Faneuf
03-20-2001, 09:43 AM
Maybe the geared pumps cost $300 when Reagan was president. Now they're much more - see the michaelengineering web site. I figure we amateurs don't need a geared pump, since we'll probably never push enough epoxy through to justify it. And I have two pumps, one for each of the S3 Fast/Medium hardeners, so I'm not about to run the costs up that much. Even the larger of the piston pumps is pushing $600.

Ross Faneuf
03-20-2001, 09:43 AM
Maybe the geared pumps cost $300 when Reagan was president. Now they're much more - see the michaelengineering web site. I figure we amateurs don't need a geared pump, since we'll probably never push enough epoxy through to justify it. And I have two pumps, one for each of the S3 Fast/Medium hardeners, so I'm not about to run the costs up that much. Even the larger of the piston pumps is pushing $600.

John Weigandt
03-22-2001, 11:08 AM
I would try your local bulk foods/ restaurant supply, and buy Mustard pumps from them that fit a standard gallon jug.

If you don't want to do the 2 pumps to 1 routine, you can examine your current pump to figure out how to make the insert that cripples the stroke of the hardener pump to give 1 stroke each. I would measure carefully to make sure it is delivering accurately, but you and I know darn well system 3 didn't have these things custom made. I also get some industrial supply and materials handling catalogs that I can check if you like

John

John Weigandt
03-22-2001, 11:08 AM
I would try your local bulk foods/ restaurant supply, and buy Mustard pumps from them that fit a standard gallon jug.

If you don't want to do the 2 pumps to 1 routine, you can examine your current pump to figure out how to make the insert that cripples the stroke of the hardener pump to give 1 stroke each. I would measure carefully to make sure it is delivering accurately, but you and I know darn well system 3 didn't have these things custom made. I also get some industrial supply and materials handling catalogs that I can check if you like

John

John Weigandt
03-22-2001, 11:08 AM
I would try your local bulk foods/ restaurant supply, and buy Mustard pumps from them that fit a standard gallon jug.

If you don't want to do the 2 pumps to 1 routine, you can examine your current pump to figure out how to make the insert that cripples the stroke of the hardener pump to give 1 stroke each. I would measure carefully to make sure it is delivering accurately, but you and I know darn well system 3 didn't have these things custom made. I also get some industrial supply and materials handling catalogs that I can check if you like

John

Ross Faneuf
04-02-2001, 10:16 AM
Just received and set up my pump from Michael Engineering. I bought their 'A' pump - the low end of their line. Excellent quality, good instructions, just right for my uses. I recommend them without reservation. You would have to be a professional shop with more than 2-3 workers, I suspect, to need a larger pump.

I also bought the small Ohaus scale they sell to check the pump ($99). Seems adequate for the job, and I can use it to mix large batches by weight.

Ross Faneuf
04-02-2001, 10:16 AM
Just received and set up my pump from Michael Engineering. I bought their 'A' pump - the low end of their line. Excellent quality, good instructions, just right for my uses. I recommend them without reservation. You would have to be a professional shop with more than 2-3 workers, I suspect, to need a larger pump.

I also bought the small Ohaus scale they sell to check the pump ($99). Seems adequate for the job, and I can use it to mix large batches by weight.

Ross Faneuf
04-02-2001, 10:16 AM
Just received and set up my pump from Michael Engineering. I bought their 'A' pump - the low end of their line. Excellent quality, good instructions, just right for my uses. I recommend them without reservation. You would have to be a professional shop with more than 2-3 workers, I suspect, to need a larger pump.

I also bought the small Ohaus scale they sell to check the pump ($99). Seems adequate for the job, and I can use it to mix large batches by weight.