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Joe (SoCal)
12-17-2015, 09:52 AM
Have NEVER had it before:
- was asleep in bed.
- woke up middle of the night, felt a little cool, but not ridiculously cold, needed to go to the toilet.
- got out of bed and went to the bathroom.
- before I got to the bathroom, I started shivering, the shivering became more and more violent and I felt EXTREMELY cold (no other symptoms - a little dizziness, nothing...).
- went to the bathroom, run back into bed with uncontrollable shivering, then proceed to use my wife's whole body to heat my body.
- feel absolutely "cold to the core" (brain feels cold, heart feels cold, everything feels cold). Renee says that I don't feel hot (doesn't feel like I have a fever or anything). I just feel like I cannot warm my own body (like my blood won't carry any warmth) or get warm (touching her body gives me a warm, tingly, slightly burning sensation).
- still shaking/shivering for a good 30/60+ minutes.
- within 2 hours, back to normal (went to the bathroom again 2 hours later, was fine http://babyandbump.momtastic.com/images/smilies/srug.gif ).

I don't think it was PARTICULARLY cold last night (it certainly wasn't 4 weeks ago - it was a fairly warm night) and I have been a in a LOT colder!

I did various google searches and it doesn't seem to be a recognised symptom or low blood pressure my blood pressure
is 110 / 76

Woke up this morning felt like i did 10 rounds with Tyson

Anyone have this ?

Paul Pless
12-17-2015, 09:55 AM
Anyone have this ?yes, bacon cured me

John of Phoenix
12-17-2015, 09:57 AM
Thyroid is sometimes responsible for temp issues. Have a doc check you out. This place is more for epoxy and CPES problems.

Norman Bernstein
12-17-2015, 10:01 AM
Have NEVER had it before....

Yes, and in fact, suffered the same thing two nights ago.

What you had (or have) is a virus. The virus particles multiply in waves, which is why the shivering and aching feeling builds to a crescendo, and when the viral load reaches a peak, it collapses. During the build, you may shiver and find it impossible to get warm, no matter how many blankets or wives you have :) and when it breaks, you're often left sweating. The cycle can occur multiple times, or just once. Not much you can do about it... as the docs will tell you, drink plenty of fluids, get plenty of rest.

Of course, now you've probably given it to Renee.... so if she cuts you off for a week, it will be your own damn fault :d

Paul Pless
12-17-2015, 10:01 AM
Thyroid is sometimes responsible for temp issues. Have a doc check you out. This place is more for epoxy and CPES problems.happiness is a warm gun

David G
12-17-2015, 10:01 AM
Never had anything like it... but it sounds more than a bit worrisome. My first two thoughts are neurological and (more likely) some exotic bug. I'd be inclined to give a call to my MD... or at least to the local Ask-A-Nurse line. Probably the former.

The one time I had something flare up all of a sudden like that - I was rafting in the Idaho wilderness. No medicos to ask. Called my doc when I got home, and he got quite exercised. Went in immediately for tests. It wasn't what he feared, but WAS something quite odd. A bug quite similar to polio, apparently. When the trip film was developed, it showed my arms hanging limply at my side, like all nerves had been severed. Couldn't row. Companions had to do almost everything. Lasted two days only, then I was fine. I was lucky, and have never had a recurrence. But it pays to heed the warning signs. The bug he feared could have left me paralyzed.

Take the time to check it out. Esp. as, if I understand it correctly, bald guys have fewer natural immunities. <G>

Rum_Pirate
12-17-2015, 10:05 AM
Go to a Doctor and get checked out.

CWSmith
12-17-2015, 10:09 AM
There are persistent, but intermittent, problems like Raynaud's Phenomenon; but if it does not repeat my money is on a virus.

Chris Coose
12-17-2015, 10:13 AM
YES!!! Onset of Sepsis 2 years ago. Hope that ain't it. And if I hadn't gone immediately to the hospital I would have hit the start button on the clock for a pretty quick death.

Check Wiki and I think you'll be on your way to the emergency room.

Edit; When I read Wiki they wrote that the onset feels like hypothermia. That isn't in there any more.

John of Phoenix
12-17-2015, 10:17 AM
happiness is a warm gunSorry, I lost my head for a minute there.

Hwyl
12-17-2015, 10:22 AM
I've no doubt that Renee has sent Joe to the Doc's already.

goodbasil
12-17-2015, 11:11 AM
"...ten rounds with Tyson."
Check your ears.

varadero
12-17-2015, 11:45 AM
Consistant with liver problems, get blood work done

JimD
12-17-2015, 11:50 AM
There are persistent, but intermittent, problems like Raynaud's Phenomenon; but if it does not repeat my money is on a virus.
I get Reynaud's in one of my fingers. But didn't think there was anything like it that could affect the entire body.

CK 17
12-17-2015, 11:53 AM
Sounds very similar to what I experienced many years ago. Very short duration. I'm still here. I'd still get it checked out. If it's bothering you enough to consult the bilge, you should prolly consult a doc. . . :d

Dumah
12-17-2015, 07:43 PM
Just love the advice here Y:o. Made a deal with my Quack a while ago, I don't tell him how to practice medicine, he doesn't tell me how to sail and repair ships. Works fine for me :d

Dumah

CWSmith
12-17-2015, 08:03 PM
I get Reynaud's in one of my fingers. But didn't think there was anything like it that could affect the entire body.

I'm probably wrong. I just learned about it from a friend who seems to get it pretty bad, but mostly in the hands.

Bobby of Tulsa
12-17-2015, 08:06 PM
Just love the advice here Y:o. Made a deal with my Quack a while ago, I don't tell him how to practice medicine, he doesn't tell me how to sail and repair ships. Works fine for me :d

Dumah So do you ever ask for help or just snark???

John B
12-17-2015, 08:37 PM
I had something like that happen a year or two ago. Got up and headed for the head in the middle of the night, made it to the door and flaked out completely. carved up my back on some adjacent coathooks and woke up on the floor. I bunted open that door to the bathroom a with my head and crawled the rest of the way.
Food poising .. had to be.
happened again that night too . about an hour later went all weird but this time I fainted out in the hallway. When I woke up that time I had to crawl nearly the whole way.
No one ever even knew until the next day.:rolleyes: How do you miss a fat guy smacking the floor at 2 am?

Gerarddm
12-17-2015, 09:03 PM
It is odd how the body can just funk out for no reason, sort of like a carburetor glitch, then it clears it self up, and you are left wondering what the hell was THAT all about?

Several years ago I developed this incredible debilitating pain on my traps muscle on my right arm, incredible, like someone was stabbing me with an ice pick. Couldn't lift my arm an ounce. Went in to the doc, who does an MRI on the shoulder and tells me I have calcium deposits in the muscle, no clue as to why, but the pain was, oddly, not from them forming, but from them slowly dissolving. Three weeks of physical therapy coupled with ultrasound and electrode therapy cured it and they never came back. Just odd.

Joe's severe internal temp whack may be hormonal? I'd get it checked out, sure.

ron ll
12-17-2015, 10:52 PM
Sure sign of "The Change". Just how old are you anyway? :D Also a known side affect of too much Viagra.
(That's what you get for asking medical advice in the Bilge. ) Seriously, hope it's nothing serious.

Breakaway
12-17-2015, 11:02 PM
See the doc Joe.

Kevin

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Captain Intrepid
12-18-2015, 12:29 AM
I'm gonna back up the non advice advice. Go see a doctor, don't ask us fools for medical advice.

bobbys
12-18-2015, 10:40 AM
last month I had beaver fever and pooped myself silly.

Course I knew better then to post about it here because some would say go to the doctor..

I kept my man card by waiting untill i dropped and my wife called my friends to drag me to the ER...

Then I got many lectures on going to the doctor.

Which I will ignore because I'm a idiot .

Joe here's yer chance to be more smarter then me.

Dumah
12-18-2015, 01:27 PM
So do you ever ask for help or just snark???


All I'm saying is if you are not an MD, you shouldn't give medical advice, is that so difficult?


Dumah

John B
12-18-2015, 01:33 PM
last month I had beaver fever and pooped myself silly.

Course I knew better then to post about it here because some would say go to the doctor..

I kept my man card by waiting untill i dropped and my wife called my friends to drag me to the ER...

Then I got many lectures on going to the doctor.

Which I will ignore because I'm a idiot .

Joe here's yer chance to be more smarter then me.

Bobby , yer just going to have to stay away from them. only answer.

Joe (SoCal)
12-18-2015, 01:58 PM
Better today
thanks all

Bobby of Tulsa
12-18-2015, 02:11 PM
All I'm saying is if you are not an MD, you shouldn't give medical advice, is that so difficult?


Dumah I wouldn't say telling a guy to see the doc is bad advise, maybe snark is what yo do best.

Norman Bernstein
12-18-2015, 02:18 PM
Better today
thanks all

Classic virus. You're lucky you didn't go through more than ONE cycle of the shivering followed by the sweating. Virtually nothing to do, for these things.... most docs, I think, would admit that they resolve on their own, and the only treatment is supportive. I've had these maybe 2-3 times in my adult life, although I've never gotten away with just one cycle... for me, it's usually two or three cycles, but I do the usual: stay in bed, drink plenty of fluids, try to sleep, yada yada yada.....

It seems amazing that medical science doesn't really have effective treatments for viruses like this.... while it's got lots of stuff for bacterial infections.

John of Phoenix
12-18-2015, 03:07 PM
alvin:
last month I had beaver fever and pooped myself silly.I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say, "We're so glad to hear that your constipation has cleared up. Please keep us posted on any other bowel malfunctions."

:D LMAO :D

Vince Brennan
12-18-2015, 06:07 PM
"Better today".... one of the big problems with this little bugger. It goes away and you tend to forget about it. I had this repeatedly when trying to rehab a pre-Revolutionary farmhouse in '95-'96. When I casually mentioned it to my Primary just as a puzzlement, she immediately asked me about the mouse / pet population at the house. A virus it probably is and possibly spread by a pet or small animal.

She had no specific other than getting rest and washing one's hands at all times. We got rid of that house and I didn't have another bout of the "12-hour flu" (my terminolgy) until we got mice in the house here. Just went thru another shot of it last week after catching four mice in the Electronic traps.

NOW using disposable gloves to tend/empty traps and even more assiduously washing hands. I'm too old for this ****.

My 2

CWSmith
12-18-2015, 10:24 PM
Better today
thanks all

Glad to hear it! Rest and a good shower helps put a bug behind you.

CWSmith
12-18-2015, 10:26 PM
... she immediately asked me about the mouse / pet population at the house.

Had a family of them die under the basement frig. Turned to liquid. Oh, the stench throughout the house was unbelievable!

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
12-18-2015, 11:08 PM
I have had the exact same thing happen a few times now.
If you figure it out, let me know.

bobbys
12-18-2015, 11:57 PM
I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say, "We're so glad to hear that your constipation has cleared up. Please keep us posted on any other bowel malfunctions."

:D LMAO :D.

Rodger wilco!

B_B
12-20-2015, 09:45 AM
If your joints start hurting: gout. DAMHIK.

coelacanth2
12-20-2015, 09:56 AM
Sure sounds viral, as noted above. I'll add that it's something your body hasn't seen before, or has changed enough to not attract the notice of your immune system - thus the rather severe reaction. Also, if you've been burning the candle at both ends lately and got yourself a bit run down ...

a long time time ago one of my old WW2 vet patients told me the Polish cure:

A large mug of hot tea
a generous glob of honey, preferably local
juice of one whole lemon
a healthy slug of whiskey. I asked him why a traditional Polish cure would have whiskey and he replied that he didn't know why, but it was traditional. Drink the whole thing and go to bed early. As he put it,"if it don't cure you, you'll feel better anyway."

He was right. It works nicely

Glad to hear you're doing better. Better have one of those this evening, just to make sure it stays gone

Bobby of Tulsa
12-20-2015, 04:49 PM
I do that freezin thing about two or three times a month, I blame it on my Cpap machine when I turn the heat off. I think it cools my blood down, not a good geeling at all.