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genglandoh
12-13-2015, 04:41 PM
The US has 3,500 troops in Iraq.
The US has 50 special op troops on special assignment in Syria.
The US has 100 special op troops on special assignment in Iraq.
Some of these troops are in combat roles fighting ISIS.

When they capture some members of ISIS what is the US going to do with them?

Peerie Maa
12-13-2015, 04:42 PM
Treat them as they would want their troops to be treated if captured.

Paul Pless
12-13-2015, 04:44 PM
When they capture some members of ISIS what is the US going to do with them?first thing we do is waterboard their sorry asses

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
12-13-2015, 04:50 PM
Employ them as janissaries.

genglandoh
12-13-2015, 04:53 PM
Some of the options are
1. Getting information from them.
Will the US question them?
Will the US turn them over to the host country for questioning?
2. Where will they be kept?
Keep them in US bases in the host countries.
Give them to the host country for safe keeping.
Put them into Gitmo.
3. How long will they be keep?
1-2 years.
Until the war with ISIS is over.

Paul Pless
12-13-2015, 04:56 PM
Some of the options are
1. Getting information from them.
Will the US question them?
Will the US turn them over to the host country for questioning?
2. Where will they be kept?
Keep them in US bases in the host countries.
Give them to the host country for safe keeping.
Put them into Gitmo.
3. How long will they be keep?
1-2 years.
Until the war with ISIS is over.why don't you give us your thought? what you think is gonna happen? and what you personally would like to see happen?

skuthorp
12-13-2015, 04:58 PM
I suspect you won't see too many captives, if any.

Peerie Maa
12-13-2015, 04:59 PM
^

Would you trust a host country with an American prisoner?
Would you put a US soldier in Gitmo with all that represents?
Until the war is over is the usual answer to that one.

skuthorp
12-13-2015, 05:09 PM
"Until the war is over is the usual answer to that one."
As far as I can find there is no formal 'war' against IS. Formal war is declared against a state, to do so would de facto recognise IS as a State. The treaties re treatment of prisoners are based an 'formal' war. This applies to war crimes I presume, on all sides.

Peerie Maa
12-13-2015, 05:49 PM
"Until the war is over is the usual answer to that one."
As far as I can find there is no formal 'war' against IS. Formal war is declared against a state, to do so would de facto recognise IS as a State. The treaties re treatment of prisoners are based an 'formal' war. This applies to war crimes I presume, on all sides.

OK, do I assume then that you would send them back to Daesh to fight again?

jack grebe
12-13-2015, 05:58 PM
Treat them as they would want their troops to be treated if captured.

First off, they are not soldiers. ....they are terrorists.

How about we treat them as they would treat our soldiers, beheading
Comes to mind.

My thought would be to send them to a camp we deny having, while
They slowly disappear while not in our custody

Peerie Maa
12-13-2015, 06:01 PM
First off, they are not soldiers. ....they are terrorists.

How about we treat them as they would treat our soldiers, beheading
Comes to mind.

My thought would be to send them to a camp we deny having, while
They slowly disappear while not in our custody

Are you really that clueless?

S.V. Airlie
12-13-2015, 06:02 PM
Send them to Rum Pirate, that will keep him busy!:)

Lew Barrett
12-13-2015, 06:28 PM
why don't you give us your thought? what you think is gonna happen? and what you personally would like to see happen?

Yikes! Hard questions!

Peerie Maa
12-13-2015, 06:58 PM
Yikes! Hard questions!

Crickets :D

wardd
12-13-2015, 07:21 PM
Some of the options are
1. Getting information from them.
Will the US question them?
Will the US turn them over to the host country for questioning?
2. Where will they be kept?
Keep them in US bases in the host countries.
Give them to the host country for safe keeping.
Put them into Gitmo.
3. How long will they be keep?
1-2 years.
Until the war with ISIS is over.

you really don't know what isis is

S.V. Airlie
12-13-2015, 08:23 PM
ISIS that stuff building on my roof dang is!

WX
12-13-2015, 08:27 PM
Free air tickets to Canada, UK, and OZ.

Like the US did with members of the SS that had proved useful?

PeterSibley
12-13-2015, 08:33 PM
First off, they are not soldiers. ....they are terrorists.

How about we treat them as they would treat our soldiers, beheading
Comes to mind.

My thought would be to send them to a camp we deny having, while
They slowly disappear while not in our custody


ISIS is a rebel movement trying to establish a new state and there is quite a good likelihood that they will be successful, this war is political with religious trimmings.

The answer is to treat their soldiers as we would wish ours to be treated, the reverse also applies.

skuthorp
12-13-2015, 09:20 PM
OK, do I assume then that you would send them back to Daesh to fight again?
I assume that after the Gitmo experience there will not be many…………………… After all they are on their way to Valhalla, or heaven, or somewhere with 77 unfortunate females awaiting them.

WX
12-13-2015, 10:43 PM
I assume that after the Gitmo experience there will not be many…………………… After all they are on their way to Valhalla, or heaven, or somewhere with 77 unfortunate females awaiting them.

Well the last laugh will be on them won't it.:D
When you are dead you are dead. No heaven and no hell and definitely no passing GO.

Gerarddm
12-14-2015, 12:17 AM
Ship them off to St. Helena, it worked with Napoleon. ;-)

slug
12-14-2015, 12:50 AM
The US has 3,500 troops in Iraq.
The US has 50 special op troops on special assignment in Syria.
The US has 100 special op troops on special assignment in Iraq.
Some of these troops are in combat roles fighting ISIS.

When they capture some members of ISIS what is the US going to do with them?

arrest them..then send them to the UK.

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Paul Girouard
12-14-2015, 01:21 AM
Spec Ops units should not take prisoners. They should leave dead bodies.

PeterSibley
12-14-2015, 03:10 AM
I reckon Al Harith had some good reason to hate those who locked him up in Gitmo for 14 years.... if you wanted to radicalise someone locking them up in Gitmo is the way to go.

Paul Girouard
12-14-2015, 04:03 AM
I reckon Al Harith had some good reason to hate those who locked him up in Gitmo for 14 years.... if you wanted to radicalise someone locking them up in Gitmo is the way to go.

All the more reason to not take prisoners.

WX
12-14-2015, 05:00 AM
All the more reason to not take prisoners.

So you want to sign the death warrant of any of your countrymen captured by ISIS? What you are saying is give no quarter, accept no quarter.

skuthorp
12-14-2015, 05:33 AM
Back to hollow teeth and cyanide eh?

Paul Girouard
12-14-2015, 09:21 AM
So you want to sign the death warrant of any of your countrymen captured by ISIS? What you are saying is give no quarter, accept no quarter.

I'd expect none from ISIS, and neither will USA's SOF's.

John of Phoenix
12-14-2015, 09:38 AM
https://www.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_SCREEN/VN/66/0042/21.JPG
Wounded Viet Cong being treated by RAAF crew.

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The first American taken prisoner by the Viet Cong was Army Spec. 4
George F. Fryett, seized Dec. 26, 1961, while riding a bicycle on the
way to a swimming pool on the outskirts of Saigon. He was freed in
June 1962: His captors simply came out of the jungle at a main road
and put him on a bus back to Saigon.

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You ****ing chickenhawks crack me up.

bobbys
12-14-2015, 09:41 AM
I would say give them jobs, A very stern lecture on gun safety, Teach them about climate change and celebrate Islam with party favors and balloons, Send off doves and join in a Justin beiber song.

OK I just like justin , I just threw that in there.......

LeeG
12-14-2015, 09:48 AM
The US has 3,500 troops in Iraq.
The US has 50 special op troops on special assignment in Syria.
The US has 100 special op troops on special assignment in Iraq.
Some of these troops are in combat roles fighting ISIS.

When they capture some members of ISIS what is the US going to do with them?

Interrogate them and leave them to the local forces I guess.

varadero
12-14-2015, 01:16 PM
Interrogate them and leave them to the local forces I guess.

Threaten to leave them to the locals during interogation. Then do so after. Or let them go, and follow them home, if they make it....

Rum_Pirate
12-14-2015, 02:24 PM
Send them to Rum Pirate, that will keep him busy!:)


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PhaseLockedLoop
12-14-2015, 03:27 PM
I'm sure we'll put them in POW camps, just like we did the Viet Cong prisoners. Remember when the Vietnamese won the war and all the Viet Cong POWs were released?

Me either.

Dannybb55
12-14-2015, 09:52 PM
Prison camps and equal treatment only work if both sides abide by Geneva and share common cultural values. This group seems to want to return Syria to the role of dommoinant Caliphate, away from Bagdad and Iran. They want the Muslim strategic center to be atEuropes doorsteps. A very old game indeed. If we fight fare on this one then we loose. We will have to fight to win.

Dannybb55
12-14-2015, 09:53 PM
Sorry, new phone and still setting it up.

RonW
12-14-2015, 09:56 PM
First off, they are not soldiers. ....they are terrorists.

How about we treat them as they would treat our soldiers, beheading
Comes to mind.

My thought would be to send them to a camp we deny having, while
They slowly disappear while not in our custody




Spec Ops units should not take prisoners. They should leave dead bodies.


Ahh, spoken like true red blooded americans............amen..

WX
12-15-2015, 03:17 AM
Ahh, spoken like true red blooded americans............amen..

Nice of you to decide for the US soldiers actually putting their lives on the line. There's no bravery to compare with that of being out of range.

PeterSibley
12-15-2015, 03:46 AM
Yep, a lot of old men talking about young men's lives.

skuthorp
12-15-2015, 06:46 AM
"…..because the US won't be so jaw droppingly stupid as to actually participate in another unwinnable fight."
Are you absolutely sure about that Paul? The memory is short, the record not good, and political expediency high on the list.

Ted Hoppe
12-15-2015, 02:12 PM
first thing we do is waterboard their sorry asses


Got any spare dog collars? in a related question - Paul: Would you breed a few of your finest for foreign US military prison service as they look great in photographs.

Captain Intrepid
12-15-2015, 02:47 PM
Prison camps and equal treatment only work if both sides abide by Geneva and share common cultural values. This group seems to want to return Syria to the role of dommoinant Caliphate, away from Bagdad and Iran. They want the Muslim strategic center to be atEuropes doorsteps. A very old game indeed. If we fight fare on this one then we loose. We will have to fight to win.

Cool story bro. What'd be your next move after validating everything that Daesh says about the USA?

Dannybb55
12-15-2015, 06:44 PM
What story? Isis has been blowing up historic mosques and cultural sites in Iraq and consentrating their reserves in Syria. You do have a grasp on the history of the region for the last few millenia? The money and political power was shifted from Damascus to Bagdad. The Syrians have a long memory. My guess is that if ISIS gets control of the dams then they will shut the water off to Bagdad.

Dannybb55
12-15-2015, 06:49 PM
The US can win wars. The UN set up the rules so that industrialized nations with deep pockets cannot use their military to best advantage.

Tom Montgomery
12-15-2015, 07:12 PM
George W. Bush successfully destabilized the Middle East. It is too bad that he didn't read his father's book:


"Trying to eliminate Saddam .. would have incurred incalculable human and political costs.... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq ...there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."
Dubya sowed the wind and now we are reaping the whirlwind.

PeterSibley
12-15-2015, 07:24 PM
The US can win wars. The UN set up the rules so that industrialized nations with deep pockets cannot use their military to best advantage.

You mean nuc the place and end all life ?

Boater14
12-15-2015, 07:27 PM
Peeri, they put their prisoners in a cage, doused with gasoline and set on fire. Cut their heads off. We won't do that I bet. Personally, Lawrence of Arabia said it best, no prisoners.

PeterSibley
12-15-2015, 07:35 PM
Seems like the US is learning from ISIS, well done guys .

Captain Intrepid
12-15-2015, 08:32 PM
What story? Isis has been blowing up historic mosques and cultural sites in Iraq and consentrating their reserves in Syria. You do have a grasp on the history of the region for the last few millenia? The money and political power was shifted from Damascus to Bagdad. The Syrians have a long memory. My guess is that if ISIS gets control of the dams then they will shut the water off to Bagdad.

"Cool story bro" is a colloquialism. In this context it means you're full of it. If you want the USA to stoop to the same level as ISIS, the war's not only lost, there's practically no point to it. Inter arma enim silent leges is the motto of a coward.



The US can win wars. The UN set up the rules so that industrialized nations with deep pockets cannot use their military to best advantage.

Not being able to commit war crimes, such a terrible burden.

PeterSibley
12-15-2015, 08:34 PM
The winning side never committed war crimes... we know from history.....