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Ian McColgin
12-11-2015, 10:00 AM
"In the Heart of the Sea" is a good book. Maybe not such a good movie. The Globe's review (https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/movies/2015/12/10/heart-sea-epic-and-ridiculous/DTQNrmuO03dDervDH5BhTO/story.html) totally cracked me up and despite that slashing pan, I will see the film. MaryEllen says she won't.

Meanwhile, I've been wracking my brain for a novel I read years ago about the post Essex life of Captain Pollard. And finally recalled it. Here's a must read:

"The Jonah Man", Henry Carlisle, Alfred A Knopf, NY, 1984.

I think it was reprinted around 2000.

Norman Bernstein
12-11-2015, 10:06 AM
I don't know about you, but it's become my expectation that the vast majority of new movies are frankly just awful.....

....which is why I keep a terabyte hard drive plugged into my smart TV, loaded with classic movies. Just the other night, I watched 'The Manchurian Candidate'.... not the awful remake with Denzel Washington, but the original John Frankeheimer production, with Frank Sinatra, Angela Lansbury, and Laurence Harvey.

Now, actually, 'The Manchurian Candidate' wasn't a great movie; Frank Sinatra was a crappy actor. However, that movie featured some outstanding direction, and Angela Lansbury turned in an outstanding performance.

Gerarddm
12-11-2015, 11:01 AM
Sinatra wasn't that bad, he did win an Oscar after all.

Rum_Pirate
12-11-2015, 11:11 AM
Here was I thinking that you had found this picture:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc16/Dave_Rabbit/OsamaBinLadenFishFood.png (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Dave_Rabbit/media/OsamaBinLadenFishFood.png.html)

rbgarr
12-11-2015, 11:44 AM
I'm with you on that, Norm.

We watched "The Russians Are Coming...." the other day and enjoyed the simple good-heartedness of it. "Whittaker Walt!"- Alan Arkin

Margaret definitely wants to see "Heart of The Sea" together after I got Owens book about the disaster at a used book store a week ago.

And then there's the movie about the motorized surfboat out of the South Shore.

"The Big Short" is one I'm eager to watch, but that's a different kettle of fishmeal.

gaffer90
12-11-2015, 08:31 PM
Don't listen to the fiberglass crowd at the Globe
This crew did it right
Director even put the actors in whaleboats for full days, starved them, gave them hard tack at 10 and 3..
It shows

Ian McColgin
12-12-2015, 10:37 AM
That part of things appears well done, but Essex actually took quite a while to sink, all got off in good order, and no whale chased the boats around the ocean. I'll see it anyway and just relax my historical literalism and the fact that I read the book, which was accurate. Besides, I love the idea of G rated cannibalism.

Ian McColgin
12-12-2015, 12:29 PM
I'm still going to see it but the Cape Cod Times review is headlined "'In the Heart of the Sea': Yo-ho-hum" and leads:

"In the Heart of the Sea" could be called "Dead in the Water" – for literal and figurative reasons. The film, that is. Not Nathaniel Philbrick's outstanding book on which it is based.
http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20151211/ENTERTAINMENTLIFE/151219841/101043/json

Given that Tim is so local, right next to his review, is his apology, which ends:
"No doubt lots of local folks (including many of our readers) have been excited about seeing the big-screen epic.
"And then you’ve got me, throwing a damper on things. So negative!
"Of course, I’d feel even more guilty if I didn’t do my job. And my job (well, the critic part) is to be as honest and fair as I possibly can be in writing opinion pieces about movies.
"So I’m following my own philosophy of G.A. Yes, I feel guilty about writing the negative review. But I’d feel worse if I didn’t."
http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20151211/ENTERTAINMENTLIFE/151219838/101043/json

Point is, Philbrick's book is so good that the movie's gratuitous plot pumping really annoys. But then, I forgave all the unreal idiocies in "All Is Lost". I can get over this one to enjoy it for what it is and not mourn what it could have been.

bobbys
12-12-2015, 01:25 PM
I don't know about you, but it's become my expectation that the vast majority of new movies are frankly just awful.....

....which is why I keep a terabyte hard drive plugged into my smart TV, loaded with classic movies. Just the other night, I watched 'The Manchurian Candidate'.... not the awful remake with Denzel Washington, but the original John Frankeheimer production, with Frank Sinatra, Angela Lansbury, and Laurence Harvey.

Now, actually, 'The Manchurian Candidate' wasn't a great movie; Frank Sinatra was a crappy actor. However, that movie featured some outstanding direction, and Angela Lansbury turned in an outstanding performance.
.

Frank ... Bad at anything....?.

And you wanna say you is a jersey kid.

Breakaway
12-12-2015, 01:39 PM
http://forum.woodenboat.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein http://forum.woodenboat.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?p=4734943#post4734943)

I don't know about you, but it's become my expectation that the vast majority of new movies are frankly just awful.....

....which is why I keep a terabyte hard drive plugged into my smart TV, loaded with classic movies. Just the other night, I watched 'The Manchurian Candidate'.... not the awful remake with Denzel Washington, but the original John Frankeheimer production, with Frank Sinatra, Angela Lansbury, and Laurence Harvey.

Now, actually, 'The Manchurian Candidate' wasn't a great movie; Frank Sinatra was a crappy actor. However, that movie featured some outstanding direction, and Angela Lansbury turned in an outstanding performance.



.


Frank ... Bad at anything....?.

And you wanna say you is a jersey kid.

Sinatra would have been 100 today.

Kevin

JimD
12-12-2015, 02:18 PM
I thought Sinatra was a better actor than a lot of big stars. Robert Redford is a horrible actor. Kevin Costner not much better. Speaking of Sinatra movies, The Devil At Four O'clock was on tv a couple nights ago, from 1961. I watched a few minutes. Too dated. Even Spencer Tracey couldn't save it. It was just the way they made movies then.

Osborne Russell
12-12-2015, 02:23 PM
Sinatra would have been 100 today.

Kevin

Thanks for that. What a guy.