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Norman Bernstein
12-01-2015, 10:39 AM
At least, he never disappoints:


Donald Trump put a price on his participation at the coming CNN Republican debate: $5 million, NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-proposes-5-million-ransom-showing-cnn-debate-n471786)reports.

Said Trump: “How about I tell CNN, who doesn’t treat me properly … I’m not gonna do the next debate, okay? I won’t do the debate unless they pay me $5 million, all of which goes to Wounded Warriors or goes to vets.”

Gerarddm
12-01-2015, 12:03 PM
Let's see him donate $5 million of his own money. What a miserable creature he is. The first rule of oligarchs is always use Other People's Money. Bah. :-(

TomF
12-01-2015, 12:08 PM
His strategy is going to work, until it doesn't. If Trump does indeed win the Rep nomination it won't fly to not participate in Presidential candidate debates, or demand to be paid.

At what point does this turn into "disrespect for the office?" Not that the notion seems to have much currency among the group where it was once much touted.

S.V. Airlie
12-01-2015, 12:10 PM
Heck, I didn't realize CNN was a person. Oh never mind, corporations are people.

TomF
12-01-2015, 12:11 PM
Heck, I didn't realize CNN was a person.Corporations are people too. :D

S.V. Airlie
12-01-2015, 12:38 PM
Corporations are people too. :DYup, why I edited my post Tom.

Willin'
12-01-2015, 12:53 PM
"I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

Gerarddm
12-01-2015, 12:55 PM
^ One of my bitter favorites.

John Smith
12-01-2015, 12:56 PM
His strategy is going to work, until it doesn't. If Trump does indeed win the Rep nomination it won't fly to not participate in Presidential candidate debates, or demand to be paid.

At what point does this turn into "disrespect for the office?" Not that the notion seems to have much currency among the group where it was once much touted.

I've wondered for some time the question of "at what point". When a political party sets their goal as making the new president a one term president by blocking everything he wants to do, so he fails, at what point does treason begin. If the president fails, does not the nation fail?

RonW
12-01-2015, 12:59 PM
Didn't we just do this.....oh wait that was quote of the day with ted cruz....looks like carson is no longer considered to be a threat.

Daniel Noyes
12-01-2015, 01:01 PM
I've wondered for some time the question of "at what point". When a political party sets their goal as making the new president a one term president by blocking everything he wants to do, so he fails, at what point does treason begin. If the president fails, does not the nation fail?

nope, your thinking of a Monarchy :)

Daniel Noyes
12-01-2015, 01:03 PM
His strategy is going to work, until it doesn't. If Trump does indeed win the Rep nomination it won't fly to not participate in Presidential candidate debates, or demand to be paid.

At what point does this turn into "disrespect for the office?" Not that the notion seems to have much currency among the group where it was once much touted.

geee, thanks Billary :(

S.V. Airlie
12-01-2015, 01:07 PM
Didn't we just do this.....oh wait that was quote of the day with ted cruz....looks like carson is no longer considered to be a threat. I suspect that a majority of GOP contenders are a threat for two reasons, they will all basically try kill each other or self implode. Either way is likely. Cruz is just an example of how they are going about it. Same with Carlson, Trump, Cary to name a few.

Have you ever seen a snake in its death throes biting itself?

Rum_Pirate
12-01-2015, 01:35 PM
Let's see him donate $5 million of his own money. What a miserable creature he is. The first rule of oligarchs is always use Other People's Money. Bah. :-(


Hmm, it seems that that is what the first rule of the Liberal politicians is, and many supporters want to do, with bigger taxes, redistribution of wealth (other people's money), milk the rich, etc. :D

S.V. Airlie
12-01-2015, 01:43 PM
Yup, Republicans want all these benefits but don't want to pay for them. Roads will go to hell, Republicans who do get welfare (they do whether you don't believe it or not) won't get any. Abortions won't be preformed because they are opposed to funding PP. Of course, these Republicans are lined up to adopt the unwanted babies that are the product. Money for education will be through personal donations. Don't want to give, don't worry, someone else will. Oh, the ACA Obamacare, not subsidized. No worry, post on the internet a "go fund me" request. Yup, the Reps are on the right track. Economically, give the breaks to the 1% they really need it.

TomF
12-01-2015, 01:58 PM
Hmm, it seems that that is what the first rule of the Liberal politicians is, and many supporters want to do, with bigger taxes, redistribution of wealth (other people's money), milk the rich, etc. :DWhen government tells you and I to "pony up" to pay Veterans' costs it's called a tax; when Trump tells CNN to "pony up" to pay Veterans' costs it's called a speaker's fee. But really, he'd be taking a slice out off the profits CNN would realize from conducting the debate to do something for the public good ... which come to think of it, is kinda how a tax functions, eh? :D

Ah, you say. But Trump is providing something of value to CNN for that $5M; he's got a right to command what the market will bear. Government provides nothing of value to you? Yet here you are, using what it provides every day.

RonW
12-01-2015, 02:56 PM
When government tells you and I to "pony up" to pay Veterans' costs it's called a tax; when Trump tells CNN to "pony up" to pay Veterans' costs it's called a speaker's fee. But really, he'd be taking a slice out off the profits CNN would realize from conducting the debate to do something for the public good ... which come to think of it, is kinda how a tax functions, eh? :D

It is sad that the liberal socialist left doesn't understand the difference between (pony up) for the medical costs of wounded veterans and the (pony up) for abortions.
, not to mention drug rehab programs, etc.etc. etc..

S.V. Airlie
12-01-2015, 03:03 PM
Well, the Repubs are in control of Congress, are they ponying up to increase and fund the vets. Oh right, they are not interested in the consequence of X number of wars. They are no longer useful. So, time to start another war or continue them.

This is for RonW. This is what the Republicans are doing about our vets.

WASHINGTON, DC) – U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, and U.S Senator Jon Tester (D-MT), criticized the Military Construction-Veterans Affairs appropriations bill on the floor today, for failing to adequately fund veterans’ health and other key programs veterans rely upon. Senate Republicans are once again bringing up Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Appropriations Bill despite the knowledge that bill will not pass. The MilCon-VA bill reduces funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs by over $1.2 billion below the President’s request. Senate Democrats demand a level of funding that addresses the healthcare gaps and massive backlog affecting the VA today, as part of an overall budget deal that adequately funds our national and economic security.

You must be really pleased with this.

TomF
12-01-2015, 03:32 PM
"Liberal socialist left." Hmm. :D

Before we get started, I'd be very interested in hearing your personal stories of helping with the medical costs of wounded Veterans, Ron. Your personal donations of time or money or both. If you can't ante up, then be so good as to STFU; we aren't gonna replay our little chat about refugees. The real issue here is Trump's demand to CNN, after all. Wounded Vets are just a sleight-of-hand distraction (first Trump's, and now yours).

In the meantime, the search engine can enlighten you about abortion. Surprisingly enough, I don't believe what you'd prefer or imagine I do. :D

John of Phoenix
12-01-2015, 03:39 PM
In the meantime, the search engine can enlighten you... Sorry buddy, but an enlightened Psychotic is no different than what we have now.

TomF
12-01-2015, 03:42 PM
Sorry buddy, but an enlightened Psychotic is no different than what we have now.I wasn't too successful at being polite anyhow.... :D