Any more stoves?

[Ed Burnett]

Good morning all,

I am looking for a really nice solid fuel stove to heat a 10 ton boat that is currently in build. The original plan was to go with a diesel fuelled job, however a slight change in cruising plans (possible colder climates for longer) has prompted a bit of a rethink. We know what we can get for burning diesel, but the general concensus is that the odd blow back is inevitable and we would rather be breathing wood smoke than diesel fumes.

So... I know about the "Navigator" stoves - the Sardine looks promising but is perhaps a little on the small side, and also the "Faversham" that Colin Frake makes - does anyone know of any others?

Any ideas would be appreciated - thanks in anticipation....

ED BURNETT

[Ed Burnett]

Good morning all,

I am looking for a really nice solid fuel stove to heat a 10 ton boat that is currently in build. The original plan was to go with a diesel fuelled job, however a slight change in cruising plans (possible colder climates for longer) has prompted a bit of a rethink. We know what we can get for burning diesel, but the general concensus is that the odd blow back is inevitable and we would rather be breathing wood smoke than diesel fumes.

So... I know about the "Navigator" stoves - the Sardine looks promising but is perhaps a little on the small side, and also the "Faversham" that Colin Frake makes - does anyone know of any others?

Any ideas would be appreciated - thanks in anticipation....

ED BURNETT

[Ed Burnett]

Good morning all,

I am looking for a really nice solid fuel stove to heat a 10 ton boat that is currently in build. The original plan was to go with a diesel fuelled job, however a slight change in cruising plans (possible colder climates for longer) has prompted a bit of a rethink. We know what we can get for burning diesel, but the general concensus is that the odd blow back is inevitable and we would rather be breathing wood smoke than diesel fumes.

So... I know about the "Navigator" stoves - the Sardine looks promising but is perhaps a little on the small side, and also the "Faversham" that Colin Frake makes - does anyone know of any others?

Any ideas would be appreciated - thanks in anticipation....

ED BURNETT

[Foster Price]

Hello Ed

Good to see you sticking up for yourself in the last Classic Boat, Ryder-Turner was certainly not an appropiate person (as a direct compeditor) to comment on your design - now when are you going to out do Nigel Irens and produce a really modern lightweight flyer in the "espirit retro" style - something like the boats P Tutard has done, but a bit more oriented to "fast"

Sorry but we digess. I went through a big pile of Classic Boat mags today, dating back to about '94 and one stove I noticed (don't ask which year/month) was the "Tor-Gem" solid fuel stove offered by Davey or one of those very traditional type chandleries. I think it was about 580mm high so a little bigger than Colin Frakes model.

If pressed I will look back and find it for you but it will be a few days before I'm back to the pile.

Cheers - Foster

[ 06-11-2002, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: Foster Price ]

[Foster Price]

Hello Ed

Good to see you sticking up for yourself in the last Classic Boat, Ryder-Turner was certainly not an appropiate person (as a direct compeditor) to comment on your design - now when are you going to out do Nigel Irens and produce a really modern lightweight flyer in the "espirit retro" style - something like the boats P Tutard has done, but a bit more oriented to "fast"

Sorry but we digess. I went through a big pile of Classic Boat mags today, dating back to about '94 and one stove I noticed (don't ask which year/month) was the "Tor-Gem" solid fuel stove offered by Davey or one of those very traditional type chandleries. I think it was about 580mm high so a little bigger than Colin Frakes model.

If pressed I will look back and find it for you but it will be a few days before I'm back to the pile.

Cheers - Foster

[ 06-11-2002, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: Foster Price ]

[Foster Price]

Hello Ed

Good to see you sticking up for yourself in the last Classic Boat, Ryder-Turner was certainly not an appropiate person (as a direct compeditor) to comment on your design - now when are you going to out do Nigel Irens and produce a really modern lightweight flyer in the "espirit retro" style - something like the boats P Tutard has done, but a bit more oriented to "fast"

Sorry but we digess. I went through a big pile of Classic Boat mags today, dating back to about '94 and one stove I noticed (don't ask which year/month) was the "Tor-Gem" solid fuel stove offered by Davey or one of those very traditional type chandleries. I think it was about 580mm high so a little bigger than Colin Frakes model.

If pressed I will look back and find it for you but it will be a few days before I'm back to the pile.

Cheers - Foster

[ 06-11-2002, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: Foster Price ]

[mmd]

Navigator's "Sardine" is a Lunenburg Foundry stove produced under license by Navigator. LFE produced larger models that may be available through Navigator. In ascending order they were the "Little Cod", the "Mackerel", the "Halibut", and a few large galley stoves. It might be worthwhile to contact Navigator to ask about the "Sadine"'s bigger siblings.

[mmd]

Navigator's "Sardine" is a Lunenburg Foundry stove produced under license by Navigator. LFE produced larger models that may be available through Navigator. In ascending order they were the "Little Cod", the "Mackerel", the "Halibut", and a few large galley stoves. It might be worthwhile to contact Navigator to ask about the "Sadine"'s bigger siblings.

[mmd]

Navigator's "Sardine" is a Lunenburg Foundry stove produced under license by Navigator. LFE produced larger models that may be available through Navigator. In ascending order they were the "Little Cod", the "Mackerel", the "Halibut", and a few large galley stoves. It might be worthwhile to contact Navigator to ask about the "Sadine"'s bigger siblings.

[Ed Burnett]

Thank you both for your input,

Foster - I know the Tor-Gem from days of old, but as I understand it this is no longer available. Would have been just the ticket... As for the "retro flyer", whenever you are ready sir!

Mmd - I had a good chat with Navigator last night. I think the Sardine would be big enough, the problem is fitting it. The space we have is better suited to a tall and narrow shaped stove and the Navigator models are all rather larger in plan area than would be ideal.

Hopefully something else will crop up, thanks again for your help.

[Ed Burnett]

Thank you both for your input,

Foster - I know the Tor-Gem from days of old, but as I understand it this is no longer available. Would have been just the ticket... As for the "retro flyer", whenever you are ready sir!

Mmd - I had a good chat with Navigator last night. I think the Sardine would be big enough, the problem is fitting it. The space we have is better suited to a tall and narrow shaped stove and the Navigator models are all rather larger in plan area than would be ideal.

Hopefully something else will crop up, thanks again for your help.

[Ed Burnett]

Thank you both for your input,

Foster - I know the Tor-Gem from days of old, but as I understand it this is no longer available. Would have been just the ticket... As for the "retro flyer", whenever you are ready sir!

Mmd - I had a good chat with Navigator last night. I think the Sardine would be big enough, the problem is fitting it. The space we have is better suited to a tall and narrow shaped stove and the Navigator models are all rather larger in plan area than would be ideal.

Hopefully something else will crop up, thanks again for your help.

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by Ed Burnett:
...I think the Sardine would be big enough, the problem is fitting it. The space we have is better suited to a tall and narrow shaped stove and the Navigator models are all rather larger in plan area than would be ideal.

Hopefully something else will crop up, thanks again for your help.This might be too small, but take a look at the Dickinson Newport at http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?catalogid=28

Here's a photo:

http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/images/heaters-newportSF.jpg

Dickinson stoves have a good rep here in the Pacific Northwest.

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by Ed Burnett:
...I think the Sardine would be big enough, the problem is fitting it. The space we have is better suited to a tall and narrow shaped stove and the Navigator models are all rather larger in plan area than would be ideal.

Hopefully something else will crop up, thanks again for your help.This might be too small, but take a look at the Dickinson Newport at http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?catalogid=28

Here's a photo:

http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/images/heaters-newportSF.jpg

Dickinson stoves have a good rep here in the Pacific Northwest.

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by Ed Burnett:
...I think the Sardine would be big enough, the problem is fitting it. The space we have is better suited to a tall and narrow shaped stove and the Navigator models are all rather larger in plan area than would be ideal.

Hopefully something else will crop up, thanks again for your help.This might be too small, but take a look at the Dickinson Newport at http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?catalogid=28

Here's a photo:

http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/images/heaters-newportSF.jpg

Dickinson stoves have a good rep here in the Pacific Northwest.

[Foster Price]

Hello All

I did find the data on the Torgem, and it was Davey & Co product reference 3125 from CB March 1992, so it could well be gone by now (ten years is a short product life when measured against a wooden boat timeframe !!)

The best option may be to have one fabricated. They are not complex to design or build and although ss is not the optimum material from a heat transfer point of view it can be painted, and will last well. I have recently made up a unit for about NZ$70 (20 quid) using scrap stainless, and it works very well, producing a clean exhaust burning wood once it gets up to temperature.

Cheers - Foster

[Foster Price]

Hello All

I did find the data on the Torgem, and it was Davey & Co product reference 3125 from CB March 1992, so it could well be gone by now (ten years is a short product life when measured against a wooden boat timeframe !!)

The best option may be to have one fabricated. They are not complex to design or build and although ss is not the optimum material from a heat transfer point of view it can be painted, and will last well. I have recently made up a unit for about NZ$70 (20 quid) using scrap stainless, and it works very well, producing a clean exhaust burning wood once it gets up to temperature.

Cheers - Foster

[Foster Price]

Hello All

I did find the data on the Torgem, and it was Davey & Co product reference 3125 from CB March 1992, so it could well be gone by now (ten years is a short product life when measured against a wooden boat timeframe !!)

The best option may be to have one fabricated. They are not complex to design or build and although ss is not the optimum material from a heat transfer point of view it can be painted, and will last well. I have recently made up a unit for about NZ$70 (20 quid) using scrap stainless, and it works very well, producing a clean exhaust burning wood once it gets up to temperature.

Cheers - Foster

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I agree with going for solid fuel rather than diesel. A stainless steel coal and wood bin makes a lot of difference here!

There is a gap in the market at this point - tall and narrow but bigger than Colin Frake's Faversham stove. Lange, in Denmark, made a superb cabin stove of this type. but they are now a museum!

I am replacing my Shipmate Skippy with a Navigator "Little Cod", but then I already have a stove platform of those dimensions.

A point worth watching - the stove doors should open fore and aft, not athwartship, if at all possible (for obvious reasons!) - this will affect choice.

Fire brick lining is very important and worthwhile.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I agree with going for solid fuel rather than diesel. A stainless steel coal and wood bin makes a lot of difference here!

There is a gap in the market at this point - tall and narrow but bigger than Colin Frake's Faversham stove. Lange, in Denmark, made a superb cabin stove of this type. but they are now a museum!

I am replacing my Shipmate Skippy with a Navigator "Little Cod", but then I already have a stove platform of those dimensions.

A point worth watching - the stove doors should open fore and aft, not athwartship, if at all possible (for obvious reasons!) - this will affect choice.

Fire brick lining is very important and worthwhile.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I agree with going for solid fuel rather than diesel. A stainless steel coal and wood bin makes a lot of difference here!

There is a gap in the market at this point - tall and narrow but bigger than Colin Frake's Faversham stove. Lange, in Denmark, made a superb cabin stove of this type. but they are now a museum!

I am replacing my Shipmate Skippy with a Navigator "Little Cod", but then I already have a stove platform of those dimensions.

A point worth watching - the stove doors should open fore and aft, not athwartship, if at all possible (for obvious reasons!) - this will affect choice.

Fire brick lining is very important and worthwhile.

[rodcross]

Don't make up your mind until you've had a chance to check the wood burning stoves offered by
http://www.peluke.com/

The ones I've seen are very pretty, solid, and a little pricey.

[rodcross]

Don't make up your mind until you've had a chance to check the wood burning stoves offered by
http://www.peluke.com/

The ones I've seen are very pretty, solid, and a little pricey.

[rodcross]

Don't make up your mind until you've had a chance to check the wood burning stoves offered by
http://www.peluke.com/

The ones I've seen are very pretty, solid, and a little pricey.

[Bill Perkins]

Thanks for the links . I too have been looking at the Sardine but got discouraged when I found out the side clearances and heat shielding required .

[Bill Perkins]

Thanks for the links . I too have been looking at the Sardine but got discouraged when I found out the side clearances and heat shielding required .

[Bill Perkins]

Thanks for the links . I too have been looking at the Sardine but got discouraged when I found out the side clearances and heat shielding required .

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

The Luke soapstone stoves got rave reviews from Don Street in "The Ocean sailing Yacht", as I recall. They do look very nice, and the "theory" of using soapstone must surely be right.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

The Luke soapstone stoves got rave reviews from Don Street in "The Ocean sailing Yacht", as I recall. They do look very nice, and the "theory" of using soapstone must surely be right.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

The Luke soapstone stoves got rave reviews from Don Street in "The Ocean sailing Yacht", as I recall. They do look very nice, and the "theory" of using soapstone must surely be right.