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  • ron ll
    Seattle WA USA (Ballard)
    • Oct 2005
    • 24355

    Anyone who thinks we are alone,

    Take a look at this.
    The video shows over 100 million stars and thousands of star clusters embedded in a section of the Galaxy, stretching over 40,000 light-years.



    Then realize that we have discovered that life on Earth began shortly after the planet was created,
    recent studies of asteroids seem to indicate the ingredients for life are pretty common,
    and there was at one time flowing water on Mars, our very nearest neighbor.
    And this video is a portion of the Andromeda galaxy, our nearest neighbor galaxy, only one of over 100 billion galaxies.

    Still think we are special?
  • oznabrag
    Historical Illiterate
    • Nov 2008
    • 40894

    #2
    Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

    We're Americans!

    Rattling the teacups.

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    • GregH
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 1861

      #3
      Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

      Of course we're not alone. The numbers- galaxies, stars, other planetary systems, etc. - in favor of this are simply too staggering. And we've only begun to scratch the surface. While we've made some great discoveries in the past half dozen decades, there is still much left to learn. To put this in perspective, consider: Until the early 1920's, the most advanced scientists considered the Milky Way to be the only galaxy in the universe. It was then that Edwin Hubble determined positively that what where thought to be nebulae within our galaxy, are actually other complete galaxies residing well outside our own! He later went on to also determine that these other galaxies are moving away from us (and each other) at incredible speed- giving rise to the concept of an expanding universe.

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      • Jim Bow
        Still tender and callow f
        • Jul 2008
        • 24088

        #4
        Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

        Alone? Hell no. There's octopi 3 miles from my house.
        “Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles and see the world is moving" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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        • Gerarddm
          #RESIST
          • Feb 2010
          • 32551

          #5
          Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

          Only the very unimaginative think we are alone.
          Gerard>
          Albuquerque, NM

          Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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          • skuthorp
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2002
            • 73700

            #6
            Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

            It's not matter of if, rather one of time/distance/when.

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            • LeeG
              Senior Member
              • May 2002
              • 73012

              #7
              Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

              Originally posted by ron ll
              Take a look at this.
              The video shows over 100 million stars and thousands of star clusters embedded in a section of the Galaxy, stretching over 40,000 light-years.


              Then realize that we have discovered that life on Earth began shortly after the planet was created,
              recent studies of asteroids seem to indicate the ingredients for life are pretty common,
              and there was at one time flowing water on Mars, our very nearest neighbor.
              And this video is a portion of the Andromeda galaxy, our nearest neighbor galaxy, only one of over 100 billion galaxies.

              Still think we are special?
              When I see scales like that I totally lose reference and start seeing a polished slab of marble. I don't think our civilization is going to last long enough to get any sure proof of other life forms outside our solar system.

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              • Paul Pless
                pinko commie tree hugger
                • Oct 2003
                • 124949

                #8
                Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                Originally posted by Gerarddm
                Only the very unimaginative think we are alone.
                god is omnipresent
                Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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                • Norman Bernstein
                  Liberaltarian
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 25223

                  #9
                  Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                  Originally posted by Paul Pless
                  god is omnipresent

                  ....and He wants you to vote Republican
                  "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."






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                  • skuthorp
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 73700

                    #10
                    Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                    I wonder if it's only self aware, and some would say anally retentive, sub-species that need a god?

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                    • WX
                      Uki NSW Australia
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 35989

                      #11
                      Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                      What puts the distances in perspective for me, albeit on a smaller scale is that it took us 10 years to send a probe 4.5 light hours away.
                      Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                      • paulf
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 6933

                        #12
                        Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                        That's why what you see in that picture happened many thousands of years ago. It will take many thousands of years into the future to see whats happening now.
                        PaulF

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                        • ron ll
                          Seattle WA USA (Ballard)
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 24355

                          #13
                          Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                          Except that recent experiments with quantum entanglement suggest that the speed of light may not be a limit.

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                          • CWSmith
                            New Hampshire
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 44112

                            #14
                            Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                            Not alone, but not visited, either.
                            "Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono

                            "Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers

                            "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx

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                            • oznabrag
                              Historical Illiterate
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 40894

                              #15
                              Re: Anyone who thinks we are alone,

                              Originally posted by ron ll
                              Except that recent experiments with quantum entanglement suggest that the speed of light may not be a limit.
                              Indeed.

                              That stuff is fascinating.

                              Hollywood dabbles with time travel quite a bit, these days, and I think 'Interstellar' gets it righter than most.

                              But what do I know?!!
                              Rattling the teacups.

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