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Soundbounder
09-01-2015, 12:49 PM
Every major Republican presidential campaign, and every allied super-PAC, confronts the same question at their morning strategy meetings: What do you do with a problem like Donald Trump?
For weeks the businessman/impresario has been running first (http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16rep.htm) in every national poll of Republicans. He dominates the race and consumes vast amounts of media oxygen, forcing other candidates to alter their tactics and strategies and leaving Republican strategists increasingly unsure of how to manage the threat.
The Republican establishment -- major office holders, donors, business supporters and advisers -- now realize that Trump won't disappear anytime soon, and that he is likely hurting the party's prospects in 2016. With the establishment increasingly eager for Trump's demise, four potential routes to achieving it have emerged:

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-31/republican-elite-charts-four-paths-to-destroy-trump

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RonW
09-01-2015, 12:54 PM
It is amazing how much (freakout) the don has generated in the liberal society, I am slowly warming up to him, just do to this fact.

S.V. Airlie
09-01-2015, 12:58 PM
Not Freakout, laugh. You do know the difference right and this entire thread is devoted to HOWthe GOP is gonna try to get rid of him, not liberals. That's your party and your problem RONNIE! FACE IT!

Glen Longino
09-01-2015, 12:59 PM
It is amazing how much (freakout) the don has generated in the liberal society, I am slowly warming up to him, just do to this fact.

Ha! It ain't us what's feaked out, it's the GOP!
I've been lmao ever since Donnie showed up in the Klown Kar.
Your take on it is skewed as usual.

Soundbounder
09-01-2015, 01:00 PM
It is amazing how much (freakout) the don has generated in the liberal society, I am slowly warming up to him, just do to this fact.

Psssst - this is a article about GOP insiders planning their attack. You might want to pay better attention.

Norman Bernstein
09-01-2015, 01:03 PM
The Republican establishment -- major office holders, donors, business supporters and advisers -- now realize that Trump won't disappear anytime soon, and that he is likely hurting the party's prospects in 2016.

Well, that's the crux of the issue, isn't it?

Does Donald Trump damage the GOP's chances for a win in 2016... or does he enhance those chances?

Stand by for the usual blind partisans to spin this as a wonderful indication of the strength of conservatism in this country.

S.V. Airlie
09-01-2015, 01:36 PM
Jeb Bush is stepping up his feud with Donald Trump with a new web video that cobbles together old footage of the real-estate magnate turned GOP front-runner backing liberal policies and politicians.
The video by the former Florida governor's campaign, called “The Real Donald Trump,” begins with a graphic announcing the “liberal things that Trump believes.” It goes on to play video clips showing Trump’s past support for abortion rights, raising taxes, single-payer health care, as well as him lauding now Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton.
“I lived in New York City or Manhattan all my life, so my views are a little different than if I lived in Iowa,” Trump says in a clip from 1999.
Trump has led the polls in Iowa for more than one month after trampling candidates who party strategists had expected to hold the inside track. He tied with fellow outsider Ben Carson at 23 percent in a new Monmouth Iowa poll released Monday but remains in first place in the RealClearPolitics average of Iowa polls, though only by 5 percentage points.
Bush, on the other hand, has fallen from the Hawkeye State’s top tier. He won just 5 percent of the Monmouth poll, good for sixth place, the same place he's in overall, according to the RealClearPolitics Iowa average.
The new Bush video includes a clip from a 2004 CNN interview where Trump said, “You’d be shocked that in many cases I’d probably identify as a Democrat.”
When asked in 2007 who he would want negotiating with the Iranians, Trump told CNN he thought that “Hillary would do a good job.”
The clips aren’t new, but they demonstrate the Bush team’s line of attack that conservative voters can’t trust Trump’s party bonafides. Conventional wisdom pegged Bush as the establishment front-runner, so most experts believed earlier in the campaign that Bush’s best strategy to deal with Trump’s brash rhetoric was to ignore it and hope that he faded.
But Trump hasn’t gone away — his poll numbers have only increased, and he’s now on top in the three earliest nominating states as well as nationally.
So Bush’s team recently stepped up his criticism on Trump, as those skyrocketing poll numbers are paired with Bush’s lagging numbers.
The opening salvo came in response to Trump‘s immigration plan, which Bush panned (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/252201-jeb-trumps-campaign-is-all-about-himself) as not grounded in conservative values.
That prompted Trump to target Bush (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/251532-trump-and-bush-go-to-war-in-new-hampshire) on the trail, hosting dueling events in New Hampshire where he panned the former governor as unelectable and “low-energy.”
The pair opened this week sparring over immigration and crime. Trump posted a short video (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252325-trump-rips-bush-over-act-of-love-remarks-on-illegal) on Instagram bashing Bush for referring to illegal immigration in 2014 as “an act of love.” The video pairs Bush’s comments with photos of undocumented immigrants accused of murder.
Bush’s team hit back (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/252366-bush-hits-trump-as-soft-on-crime) Monday afternoon with a statement slamming Trump as soft on crime, noting his past support for Democratic politicians and his backing of legalizing certain drugs.
"That little [Trump] ad was just a complete mischaracterization of my thinking, it's almost as though Donald Trump is acting like a Washington politician. That’s what they do," Bush said Tuesday (http://video.foxnews.com/v/4456880876001/bush-defends-immigration-plan-after-trump-goes-on-the-attack/?playlist_id=903354961001#sp=show-clips) on Fox News' "America's Newsroom."
"The simple fact is our ad simply uses his own language, his own words, to say he is more Democrat than a

S.V. Airlie
09-01-2015, 01:37 PM
So Bush’s team recently stepped up his criticism on Trump, as those skyrocketing poll numbers are paired with Bush’s lagging numbers.
The opening salvo came in response to Trump‘s immigration plan, which Bush panned (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/252201-jeb-trumps-campaign-is-all-about-himself) as not grounded in conservative values.
That prompted Trump to target Bush (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/251532-trump-and-bush-go-to-war-in-new-hampshire) on the trail, hosting dueling events in New Hampshire where he panned the former governor as unelectable and “low-energy.”
The pair opened this week sparring over immigration and crime. Trump posted a short video (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252325-trump-rips-bush-over-act-of-love-remarks-on-illegal) on Instagram bashing Bush for referring to illegal immigration in 2014 as “an act of love.” The video pairs Bush’s comments with photos of undocumented immigrants accused of murder.
Bush’s team hit back (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/252366-bush-hits-trump-as-soft-on-crime) Monday afternoon with a statement slamming Trump as soft on crime, noting his past support for Democratic politicians and his backing of legalizing certain drugs.
"That little [Trump] ad was just a complete mischaracterization of my thinking, it's almost as though Donald Trump is acting like a Washington politician. That’s what they do," Bush said Tuesday (http://video.foxnews.com/v/4456880876001/bush-defends-immigration-plan-after-trump-goes-on-the-attack/?playlist_id=903354961001#sp=show-clips) on Fox News' "America's Newsroom."
"The simple fact is our ad simply uses his own language, his own words, to say he is more Democrat than a Republican.”

Flying Orca
09-01-2015, 01:39 PM
So ol' Jeb is gonna try to play "Righter than Trump"? I for one welcome our new, completely unelectable, assclown, would-be overlords.

bobbys
09-01-2015, 01:44 PM
It is amazing how much (freakout) the don has generated in the liberal society, I am slowly warming up to him, just do to this fact.
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nothing scares liberals more then someone outside of the Washington political circle gaining ground.

They are invested in the stale politicians and status quo.

Big debt, Big Government, , same old PC speech and dividing tactics.

Who knows how far DT will go but I for one enjoy someone standing up to the same old politicians.

If DT ruffles feathers in the Republican Party that's OK by me.

Meanwhile liberals are stuck in the big muddy of their own makings.

It will be their undoing yet have no idea what is going on.

All their chips are in a loser.

John of Phoenix
09-01-2015, 01:45 PM
It is amazing how much (freakout) the don has generated in the liberal society, I am slowly warming up to him, just do to this fact.Here's the headline -

GOP Elite Charts Four Paths to Destroy Trump


How does your fevered brain get from "GOP Elite" to "liberal society"?

Norman Bernstein
09-01-2015, 01:57 PM
Well, Jeb's counterattack, after the Trump ad which is a virtual copy of the famous 'Willie Horton' ad, was inevitable.....

...of course, the smart thing for liberal/progressive types to do, at this point, is to stand back and laugh. 'When the enemy is digging it's own grave, don't get in his way' :):)

CWSmith
09-01-2015, 02:32 PM
It might be fun now, but once the GOP field tries to capture the "I'm crazier than Trump right" they will be downright outrageous as they try to move themselves back to the center for the general election.

You can't unring the bell, although I can't say I have a lot of faith in American voters to remember what was said 6 months earlier.

Figment
09-01-2015, 02:40 PM
Every major Republican presidential campaign, and every allied super-PAC, confronts the same question at their morning strategy meetings: What do you do with a problem like Donald Trump?


Wow, 14 posts and nobody asks How do they catch a cloud and pin it down?

Slipping, boys.

John of Phoenix
09-01-2015, 02:43 PM
STACK THE DECK. Republicans in South Carolina are requiring (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/south-carolina-republican-party-donald-trump-run-2016-121725) that, for candidates to qualify for the state's important early primary, they must pledge to support the eventual party nominee and not run as an independent. Other state Republican parties are considering a similar move. This is aimed squarely at making the primaries difficult for Trump.

Oh YES! Slap his face and throw that gauntlet down! The Donald does so love a challenge like that.

CWSmith
09-01-2015, 02:45 PM
Wow, 14 posts and nobody asks How do they catch a cloud and pin it down?

Slipping, boys.

I swear I was thinking that! "How do you solve a problem like The Donald..." I just could not take it far enough.

Figment
09-01-2015, 02:46 PM
A flibberdygibbet, a whill-of-a-whisp, A CLOWN!

John Smith
09-01-2015, 03:16 PM
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nothing scares liberals more then someone outside of the Washington political circle gaining ground.

They are invested in the stale politicians and status quo.

Big debt, Big Government, , same old PC speech and dividing tactics.

Who knows how far DT will go but I for one enjoy someone standing up to the same old politicians.

If DT ruffles feathers in the Republican Party that's OK by me.

Meanwhile liberals are stuck in the big muddy of their own makings.

It will be their undoing yet have no idea what is going on.

All their chips are in a loser.

Who the heck are you to determine what scares me?

Gerarddm
09-01-2015, 03:17 PM
STACK THE DECK. Republicans in South Carolina are requiring (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/south-carolina-republican-party-donald-trump-run-2016-121725) that, for candidates to qualify for the state's important early primary, they must pledge to support the eventual party nominee and not run as an independent. Other state Republican parties are considering a similar move. This is aimed squarely at making the primaries difficult for Trump.




This is laughable.

He signs , later says he has evolved, and changes his mind. What are they going to do, hold a second primary? His supporters will rejoice in how clever he is.

John Smith
09-01-2015, 03:18 PM
STACK THE DECK. Republicans in South Carolina are requiring (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/south-carolina-republican-party-donald-trump-run-2016-121725) that, for candidates to qualify for the state's important early primary, they must pledge to support the eventual party nominee and not run as an independent. Other state Republican parties are considering a similar move. This is aimed squarely at making the primaries difficult for Trump.

Oh YES! Slap his face and throw that gauntlet down! The Donald does so love a challenge like that.


Seems to me that would force him to run as independent. If he really concerns them, some of the other candidates need to drop out. Thin the field so the 70% that aren't supporting him aren't spread so thinly.

S.V. Airlie
09-01-2015, 03:19 PM
This is laughable.

He signs , later says he has evolved, and changes his mind. What are they going to do, hold a second primary? His supporters will rejoice in how clever he is.BUT, but, Republicans don't lie!:)

Canoeyawl
09-01-2015, 03:25 PM
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nothing scares liberals more then someone outside of the Washington political circle gaining ground.

They are invested in the stale politicians and status quo.

Big debt, Big Government, , same old PC speech and dividing tactics.


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Let's see; "Big Debt, Big Government"

Oh yeah! That is some thing to be afraid of.

"During his eight years in office, President Bush oversaw a large increase in government spending. In fact, President Bush increased government spending more than any of the six presidents preceding him, including LBJ. In his last term in office, President Bush increased discretionary outlays by an estimated 48.6 percent.
During his eight years in office, President Bush spent almost twice as much as his predecessor, President Clinton. Adjusted for inflation, in eight years, President Clinton increased the federal budget by 12.5 percent. In eight years, President Bush increased it by a whopping 53 percent...
President Bush added thousands of new federal subsidy programs during his eight years in office. In 2008, there were 1,816 subsidy programs in the federal budget that spread hundreds of billions of dollars annually to special interest groups such as state governments, businesses, nonprofit groups, and individuals. The number of subsidy programs has grown by 30 percent since 2000 and by 54 percent since 1990".

Soundbounder
09-01-2015, 03:30 PM
Seems to me that would force him to run as independent. If he really concerns them, some of the other candidates need to drop out. Thin the field so the 70% that aren't supporting him aren't spread so thinly. That will happen by Super Tuesday. Some of these candidacies are built upon catching lightning in a bottle. If it doesn't happen early, they will run out of money.

John of Phoenix
09-01-2015, 03:43 PM
Jeb "attacks" Trump. What a joke. Bush learned nothing from bush.

You don't attack his weaknesses, you attack his strengths.

Soundbounder
09-01-2015, 03:47 PM
Maybe before the South Carolina primary, Jeb supporters will conduct a push-poll to spread rumors about Trump's illegitimate black baby.

It worked before.