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emichaels
03-24-2006, 09:55 AM
Can some of you recommend a good , usefull, easy to read (the pictures are good),...KNOT book.

Thanks

Eric

emichaels
03-24-2006, 09:55 AM
Can some of you recommend a good , usefull, easy to read (the pictures are good),...KNOT book.

Thanks

Eric

emichaels
03-24-2006, 09:55 AM
Can some of you recommend a good , usefull, easy to read (the pictures are good),...KNOT book.

Thanks

Eric

Don Z.
03-24-2006, 09:58 AM
Are you looking for useful knots, or decorative? I personally like Hervey Garrett Smith's books, but that's just because they were the first ones I started with when I was 13.

Don Z.
03-24-2006, 09:58 AM
Are you looking for useful knots, or decorative? I personally like Hervey Garrett Smith's books, but that's just because they were the first ones I started with when I was 13.

Don Z.
03-24-2006, 09:58 AM
Are you looking for useful knots, or decorative? I personally like Hervey Garrett Smith's books, but that's just because they were the first ones I started with when I was 13.

Thorne
03-24-2006, 10:02 AM
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Thorne
03-24-2006, 10:02 AM
http://www.woodenboatstore.com/images/300589.jpg

Sold by our hosts -

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Thorne
03-24-2006, 10:02 AM
http://www.woodenboatstore.com/images/300589.jpg

Sold by our hosts -

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P.I. Stazzer-Newt
03-24-2006, 10:06 AM
"The Ashley Book of Knots"

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
03-24-2006, 10:06 AM
"The Ashley Book of Knots"

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
03-24-2006, 10:06 AM
"The Ashley Book of Knots"

Peter Malcolm Jardine
03-24-2006, 10:48 AM
I second the Ashley book. It is the definitive work in my mind.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
03-24-2006, 10:48 AM
I second the Ashley book. It is the definitive work in my mind.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
03-24-2006, 10:48 AM
I second the Ashley book. It is the definitive work in my mind.

Hal Forsen
03-24-2006, 11:02 AM
The Ashley Book of Knots is far and away the number 1 choice. I have several knot books I've collected over the years; a newer one I like a lot is "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots and Ropework" by Geoffrey Budworth.
Color Pics and Good instructions.
Advice courtesy of yours truly, a former 7th Fleet knot tying champ. :cool:
HF

Hal Forsen
03-24-2006, 11:02 AM
The Ashley Book of Knots is far and away the number 1 choice. I have several knot books I've collected over the years; a newer one I like a lot is "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots and Ropework" by Geoffrey Budworth.
Color Pics and Good instructions.
Advice courtesy of yours truly, a former 7th Fleet knot tying champ. :cool:
HF

Hal Forsen
03-24-2006, 11:02 AM
The Ashley Book of Knots is far and away the number 1 choice. I have several knot books I've collected over the years; a newer one I like a lot is "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots and Ropework" by Geoffrey Budworth.
Color Pics and Good instructions.
Advice courtesy of yours truly, a former 7th Fleet knot tying champ. :cool:
HF

Keith Wilson
03-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Ashley's??? It's certainly definitive, but unless you want to know about every conceivable knot, I wouldn't recommend starting there. The diagrams are not large or clear, and finding the five or six knots one actually uses most of the time can take hours! Too much information for most folks (although I have a copy). It's a little like buying the entire Encyclopedia Britannica when all you needed was the scientific name for a skunk.

Try Knowing The Ropes by Roger Taylor, or The Rigger's Apprentice by Brion Toss. They not only show you the knots, but discuss what to use where and why.

[ 03-24-2006, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

Keith Wilson
03-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Ashley's??? It's certainly definitive, but unless you want to know about every conceivable knot, I wouldn't recommend starting there. The diagrams are not large or clear, and finding the five or six knots one actually uses most of the time can take hours! Too much information for most folks (although I have a copy). It's a little like buying the entire Encyclopedia Britannica when all you needed was the scientific name for a skunk.

Try Knowing The Ropes by Roger Taylor, or The Rigger's Apprentice by Brion Toss. They not only show you the knots, but discuss what to use where and why.

[ 03-24-2006, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

Keith Wilson
03-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Ashley's??? It's certainly definitive, but unless you want to know about every conceivable knot, I wouldn't recommend starting there. The diagrams are not large or clear, and finding the five or six knots one actually uses most of the time can take hours! Too much information for most folks (although I have a copy). It's a little like buying the entire Encyclopedia Britannica when all you needed was the scientific name for a skunk.

Try Knowing The Ropes by Roger Taylor, or The Rigger's Apprentice by Brion Toss. They not only show you the knots, but discuss what to use where and why.

[ 03-24-2006, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

paladin
03-24-2006, 12:02 PM
I started with Hervey Garret Smith and still use it...Have the Ashley book of knots....but refer to Brion Toss more often...

paladin
03-24-2006, 12:02 PM
I started with Hervey Garret Smith and still use it...Have the Ashley book of knots....but refer to Brion Toss more often...

paladin
03-24-2006, 12:02 PM
I started with Hervey Garret Smith and still use it...Have the Ashley book of knots....but refer to Brion Toss more often...

Y Bar Ranch
03-24-2006, 01:04 PM
Ashley's is just a great rainy day book. You can spend hours with that book and a pile of various kinds of twine, thread and rope. You can feel the author's passion for the subject. It is the knot tying version of Chappelle's boatbuilding book.

But for day-to-day knot tying, I'd pick either

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0688012264/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/103-1637132-9063867?%5Fencoding=UTF8

or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0756603749/ref=pd_sim_b_5/103-1637132-9063867?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

Y Bar Ranch
03-24-2006, 01:04 PM
Ashley's is just a great rainy day book. You can spend hours with that book and a pile of various kinds of twine, thread and rope. You can feel the author's passion for the subject. It is the knot tying version of Chappelle's boatbuilding book.

But for day-to-day knot tying, I'd pick either

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0688012264/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/103-1637132-9063867?%5Fencoding=UTF8

or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0756603749/ref=pd_sim_b_5/103-1637132-9063867?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

Y Bar Ranch
03-24-2006, 01:04 PM
Ashley's is just a great rainy day book. You can spend hours with that book and a pile of various kinds of twine, thread and rope. You can feel the author's passion for the subject. It is the knot tying version of Chappelle's boatbuilding book.

But for day-to-day knot tying, I'd pick either

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0688012264/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/103-1637132-9063867?%5Fencoding=UTF8

or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0756603749/ref=pd_sim_b_5/103-1637132-9063867?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

Sailor
03-24-2006, 05:15 PM
I've leafed through Ashley several times.Spent a few rainy days just looking through it. My favorite and I ALWAYS recomend it is HG Smith's The marlinspike sailor. Best one out there to learn the basics BAR NONE. Drawings are clear and easy to follow. The newer editions have info on splicing samson braid. There's chapeters on simple stuff, like coiling rope and care of your line, then there's an easy ( once you play with rope a bit anyway) description with drawings on how to reach the pinnacle of the knotting world..... the star knot. Smith was an illustrator by trade and his drawings are far and away the best to explain what he's saying in the text. In fact most of the knots described can be tied by the novice using only the diagrams. Get it. It's not pricey either

Sailor
03-24-2006, 05:15 PM
I've leafed through Ashley several times.Spent a few rainy days just looking through it. My favorite and I ALWAYS recomend it is HG Smith's The marlinspike sailor. Best one out there to learn the basics BAR NONE. Drawings are clear and easy to follow. The newer editions have info on splicing samson braid. There's chapeters on simple stuff, like coiling rope and care of your line, then there's an easy ( once you play with rope a bit anyway) description with drawings on how to reach the pinnacle of the knotting world..... the star knot. Smith was an illustrator by trade and his drawings are far and away the best to explain what he's saying in the text. In fact most of the knots described can be tied by the novice using only the diagrams. Get it. It's not pricey either

Sailor
03-24-2006, 05:15 PM
I've leafed through Ashley several times.Spent a few rainy days just looking through it. My favorite and I ALWAYS recomend it is HG Smith's The marlinspike sailor. Best one out there to learn the basics BAR NONE. Drawings are clear and easy to follow. The newer editions have info on splicing samson braid. There's chapeters on simple stuff, like coiling rope and care of your line, then there's an easy ( once you play with rope a bit anyway) description with drawings on how to reach the pinnacle of the knotting world..... the star knot. Smith was an illustrator by trade and his drawings are far and away the best to explain what he's saying in the text. In fact most of the knots described can be tied by the novice using only the diagrams. Get it. It's not pricey either

Bob Cleek
03-24-2006, 08:11 PM
BUT, if you are really looking for the definitive work on the subject (and can find a copy) what you want is "The Encyclopedia of Knots and Fancy Ropework" by Hensel and Graumount. Ashley's is easier to follow, perhaps. Hensel and Graumount covers EVERY knot known to man. Ashley missed a few! :D

Bob Cleek
03-24-2006, 08:11 PM
BUT, if you are really looking for the definitive work on the subject (and can find a copy) what you want is "The Encyclopedia of Knots and Fancy Ropework" by Hensel and Graumount. Ashley's is easier to follow, perhaps. Hensel and Graumount covers EVERY knot known to man. Ashley missed a few! :D

Bob Cleek
03-24-2006, 08:11 PM
BUT, if you are really looking for the definitive work on the subject (and can find a copy) what you want is "The Encyclopedia of Knots and Fancy Ropework" by Hensel and Graumount. Ashley's is easier to follow, perhaps. Hensel and Graumount covers EVERY knot known to man. Ashley missed a few! :D

paladin
03-24-2006, 08:16 PM
which ones did he miss, Robert? :D

paladin
03-24-2006, 08:16 PM
which ones did he miss, Robert? :D

paladin
03-24-2006, 08:16 PM
which ones did he miss, Robert? :D

Sailor
03-24-2006, 08:18 PM
I don't know but it's Knot in my refference library.

Sailor
03-24-2006, 08:18 PM
I don't know but it's Knot in my refference library.

Sailor
03-24-2006, 08:18 PM
I don't know but it's Knot in my refference library.

Gary Bergman
03-24-2006, 11:13 PM
US Navy Bluejackets manual, pick one up used on e-bay. All the knots you can use, and a hell of a book for a sailor to own. Skip the deck weapons drills; in post-9/11 days, the coasties might get riled up.

Gary Bergman
03-24-2006, 11:13 PM
US Navy Bluejackets manual, pick one up used on e-bay. All the knots you can use, and a hell of a book for a sailor to own. Skip the deck weapons drills; in post-9/11 days, the coasties might get riled up.

Gary Bergman
03-24-2006, 11:13 PM
US Navy Bluejackets manual, pick one up used on e-bay. All the knots you can use, and a hell of a book for a sailor to own. Skip the deck weapons drills; in post-9/11 days, the coasties might get riled up.

password
03-25-2006, 09:38 AM
If your interested!
I was surfin the other day and found(www.animatedknots.com) it"s mostly basic knots, but fun to check-out.

password
03-25-2006, 09:38 AM
If your interested!
I was surfin the other day and found(www.animatedknots.com) it"s mostly basic knots, but fun to check-out.

password
03-25-2006, 09:38 AM
If your interested!
I was surfin the other day and found(www.animatedknots.com) it"s mostly basic knots, but fun to check-out.

ion barnes
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
You must try www.animatedknots.com/index.php (http://www.animatedknots.com/index.php)

ion barnes
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
You must try www.animatedknots.com/index.php (http://www.animatedknots.com/index.php)

dredbob
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
As an old boy scout (I was my troop's champian knot tyer) and current square-rig sailor, I'll throw in my $0.02 here.

Every serious student of knot tying and marlinespike work should try to get Ashley's. It's more than just how to tie knots, it's an education in where and why to tie them. But, it's very expensive and getting hard to come by second hand.

As far as Graumont goes, in my opinion it is almost worthless. The overly dark photos are impossible to make out and the descriptions not much better (See Brion Toss's letter to the editor in the old Mariners Catalog).

For a first manual of knot tying, you can't go wrong with Des Pawson's _Handbook of Knots_.

I'll second the recommendation for Roger Taylor's _Knowing the Ropes_, Harvey Garrett Smith's _Marlinspike Seamanship_ and _Arts of the Sailors_. And of course Brion Toss's works are indespensible also.

Cyrus Lawrence Day's _Art of Knotting and Spliceing_ is a good classic book on the subject.

Geoffrey Budworth's _Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots and Ropework_ is a good modern book, as is Richard Hopkin's _Knots_. Both of these, but particularly Hopkins, have knots that were invented in the more recent past with modern rope construction and materials in mind (although some of the more extreme new cordage should only be spliced, never knotted).

And Barbara Merry's _Splicing_ is a guide to how to splice most of the modern rope constructions.

I have other's, but those above are the ones I would recommend most highly.

Bob

dredbob
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
As an old boy scout (I was my troop's champian knot tyer) and current square-rig sailor, I'll throw in my $0.02 here.

Every serious student of knot tying and marlinespike work should try to get Ashley's. It's more than just how to tie knots, it's an education in where and why to tie them. But, it's very expensive and getting hard to come by second hand.

As far as Graumont goes, in my opinion it is almost worthless. The overly dark photos are impossible to make out and the descriptions not much better (See Brion Toss's letter to the editor in the old Mariners Catalog).

For a first manual of knot tying, you can't go wrong with Des Pawson's _Handbook of Knots_.

I'll second the recommendation for Roger Taylor's _Knowing the Ropes_, Harvey Garrett Smith's _Marlinspike Seamanship_ and _Arts of the Sailors_. And of course Brion Toss's works are indespensible also.

Cyrus Lawrence Day's _Art of Knotting and Spliceing_ is a good classic book on the subject.

Geoffrey Budworth's _Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots and Ropework_ is a good modern book, as is Richard Hopkin's _Knots_. Both of these, but particularly Hopkins, have knots that were invented in the more recent past with modern rope construction and materials in mind (although some of the more extreme new cordage should only be spliced, never knotted).

And Barbara Merry's _Splicing_ is a guide to how to splice most of the modern rope constructions.

I have other's, but those above are the ones I would recommend most highly.

Bob

ion barnes
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
You must try www.animatedknots.com/index.php (http://www.animatedknots.com/index.php)

dredbob
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
As an old boy scout (I was my troop's champian knot tyer) and current square-rig sailor, I'll throw in my $0.02 here.

Every serious student of knot tying and marlinespike work should try to get Ashley's. It's more than just how to tie knots, it's an education in where and why to tie them. But, it's very expensive and getting hard to come by second hand.

As far as Graumont goes, in my opinion it is almost worthless. The overly dark photos are impossible to make out and the descriptions not much better (See Brion Toss's letter to the editor in the old Mariners Catalog).

For a first manual of knot tying, you can't go wrong with Des Pawson's _Handbook of Knots_.

I'll second the recommendation for Roger Taylor's _Knowing the Ropes_, Harvey Garrett Smith's _Marlinspike Seamanship_ and _Arts of the Sailors_. And of course Brion Toss's works are indespensible also.

Cyrus Lawrence Day's _Art of Knotting and Spliceing_ is a good classic book on the subject.

Geoffrey Budworth's _Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots and Ropework_ is a good modern book, as is Richard Hopkin's _Knots_. Both of these, but particularly Hopkins, have knots that were invented in the more recent past with modern rope construction and materials in mind (although some of the more extreme new cordage should only be spliced, never knotted).

And Barbara Merry's _Splicing_ is a guide to how to splice most of the modern rope constructions.

I have other's, but those above are the ones I would recommend most highly.

Bob

emichaels
03-26-2006, 08:09 AM
All, Thanks for the replies, certainly one or a combination of these references will be just right.

Eric

emichaels
03-26-2006, 08:09 AM
All, Thanks for the replies, certainly one or a combination of these references will be just right.

Eric

emichaels
03-26-2006, 08:09 AM
All, Thanks for the replies, certainly one or a combination of these references will be just right.

Eric

Jonathan Kabak
03-26-2006, 09:21 AM
I might be too late, but one of the best basic knot, bend, hitch texts is the Morrow Guide to Knots. Of the multiple tombs that I have on the subject, I think this is one of the finest, and clearest in its instruction.

Jonathan

Jonathan Kabak
03-26-2006, 09:21 AM
I might be too late, but one of the best basic knot, bend, hitch texts is the Morrow Guide to Knots. Of the multiple tombs that I have on the subject, I think this is one of the finest, and clearest in its instruction.

Jonathan

Jonathan Kabak
03-26-2006, 09:21 AM
I might be too late, but one of the best basic knot, bend, hitch texts is the Morrow Guide to Knots. Of the multiple tombs that I have on the subject, I think this is one of the finest, and clearest in its instruction.

Jonathan