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Lew Barrett
06-25-2015, 12:23 PM
Overcharging? (http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Bite/2015/0625/Whole-Foods-has-overcharged-customers-since-2010-NYC-probe-says) Whole Foods? Who'd have guessed?

I've never been able to justify regularly shopping there anyway. I think they overcharge even if you get the full advertised weight. They do carry some unique items, no doubt.

oznabrag
06-25-2015, 12:44 PM
When the original Whole Foods moved to their new store on the North East corner of 6th and Lamar, we were already calling it Whole Paycheck Market.

Then they took the whole block East of Lamar between 5th and 6th.

I haven't shopped there in ages.

Of course, we have HEB (https://www.heb.com/), soooo...

Lew Barrett
06-25-2015, 02:20 PM
I don't shop there either. Whole paycheck is the dba.

Chip-skiff
06-25-2015, 02:35 PM
The owner of Whole Foods is John Mackey, a right-wing libertarian whackjob who has sparked several protest campaigns in recent years, such as that after his guest piece in the Wall Street Journal opposing the Affordable Care Act. Which goes to prove that you can make lots of money without necessarily making sense.

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/whole-foods-ceos-dumb-hypocritical-conservative-talking-points

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/john-mackey-whole-foods/

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/whole-foods-market-john-mackey-interview-conscious-capitalism

genglandoh
06-25-2015, 02:39 PM
I have no problem with a store having high prices.
Not everyone wants to buy at Walmart.

Overcharging normally means they are being misleading about their prices.
1. The weight on the package is not the actual weight.
2. The price at the check out does not match the price at the on the package.

Chip-skiff
06-25-2015, 02:42 PM
I have no problem with a store having high prices.
Not everyone wants to buy at Walmart.

Overcharging normally means they are being misleading about their prices.
1. The weight on the package is not the actual weight.
2. The price at the check out does not match the price at the on the package.

#1 was the problem. Short weight.

Lew Barrett
06-25-2015, 02:44 PM
And that's what they've been accused of (note in NY):
short weights, overcharging and adding cost to the labeled price.

They can charge whatever they want, and I can shop wherever I'd like so I'm with you there. I wasn't a shopper before this came to light, now I will likely never be. I'm OK with my local QFC (Kroeger in the east) as a good source of organic produce and fruits, as well as certain seafood items.

Seattle is blessed with some great specialty markets as well. Uwajimaya is an Asian market with a great selection of produce including a terrific variety of things you never see elsewhere and terrific fresh fish and shellfish at affordable prices, not to mention Asian specialties and meats that are not usually carried at the chain markets. That's one place we can go when we want something special, and of course there's the Public Market. If I want to splurge, the Public Market is a great place to do it.

Lew Barrett
06-25-2015, 02:49 PM
#1 was the problem. Short weight.

I believe they also overcharged (at least according to the linked article).

Here's the quote;):

The investigation, which has tracked eight of the nine New York Whole Foods locations since 2010, found multiple violations. In addition to overstating the weight on prepackaged goods like meat, dairy, and baked goods, Whole Foods overcharged at scanning stations and added tax to items that shouldn't be taxed, according to the city's investigation.

John of Phoenix
06-25-2015, 03:21 PM
#1 was the problem. Short weight.I admire your patience. It's awesome. <Salute>

Lew Barrett
06-25-2015, 03:24 PM
I just plain admire him. :)

S.V. Airlie
06-25-2015, 04:04 PM
Nothing like having a monopoly

David G
06-25-2015, 04:29 PM
In Portland we have Whole Foods. But I never shop there. We have the local food co-op, where we are members. Where I was on the B.O.D. - and helped plan the move from hip-pocket size to superette size. And... if that's not enough... we also have a most excellent local independent health food chain called New Seasons. We shop there, too, as they are closer than either of the Food Front locations. I believe 'whole foods' are good and important. The mega-chain by the same name? I avoid it if at all possible.

Waddie
06-25-2015, 04:43 PM
Yep; competition is key. Whether it's food or banks or cable providers.

regards,
Waddie

John of Phoenix
06-25-2015, 04:52 PM
I never considered lying part of "competition". It's cheating.

Waddie
06-25-2015, 05:01 PM
I never considered lying part of "competition". It's cheating.

True competitors usually out each other. Just ask the New England Patriots.

regards,
Waddie

Barry
06-25-2015, 05:04 PM
Whole Foods started out as "Bread and Mortgages"!

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
06-25-2015, 10:11 PM
What you need is an ALDI store.

And/or Lidl.

BrianW
06-26-2015, 01:03 AM
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Seattle is blessed with some great specialty markets as well. Uwajimaya is an Asian market with a great selection of produce including a terrific variety of things you never see elsewhere...

Regine loves that place. That's where she stocks up on poi and lau lau before headed back to SE Alaska. Plus they have a decent Hawaiian style 'plate lunch' vendor in the food court.

David G
06-26-2015, 01:28 AM
Same in Portland. They have some things impossible to find elsewhere. There are also some great Vietnamese groceries - some of which include French bakeries - around here.

The Bigfella
06-26-2015, 03:21 AM
It works here to drive out the duopoly mantra of Coles and Woolworths. As for specialist foods (esp Asian) we have many single outlet options. Horses for courses.

You get your horsemeat from Aldi? I can't stand their stores normally, but I must have a look. I haven't eaten horsemeat since I was in Flores.

ShagRock
06-26-2015, 03:29 AM
In Portland we have Whole Foods.
That's available around the globe. How do we know the Portland stuff reflects on the size of your brain or your belly?

Glen Longino
06-26-2015, 03:38 AM
That's available around the globe. How do we know the Portland stuff reflects on the size of your brain or your belly?

How do we know you have a brain?
Evidence, man, evidence!:)

bobbys
06-26-2015, 03:43 AM
being a tourist town remote from the city we just have a Safeway store.

It's the highest price Safeway in Oregon..
When I went to bend oregon and different stores I was shocked at the lower prices and selection.

ShagRock
06-26-2015, 03:44 AM
How do we know you have a brain?:)
You don't.

Glen Longino
06-26-2015, 03:49 AM
being a tourist town remote from the city we just have a Safeway store.

It's the highest price Safeway in Oregon..
When I went to bend oregon and different stores I was shocked at the lower prices and selection.

Howdy, bobbys, have a good evening, my friend!
Hey, don't laugh, I'm serious here!:)

bobbys
06-26-2015, 03:54 AM
Howdy, bobbys, have a good evening, my friend!
Hey, don't laugh, I'm serious here!:)
.

How come you are still up and reviewing brain activity on the forum?

Glen Longino
06-26-2015, 04:02 AM
.

How come you are still up and reviewing brain activity on the forum?

I do naps!
I had a nap from 11-1 and another from 4-6.
Why do you ask?
Hey, I like this place and I'm retired and I do as I damn well please, keeping Scot in mind, of course! How about you?
How about your "brain activity"(I use the term loosely):)

Paul Pless
06-26-2015, 07:25 AM
What you need is an ALDI store.

They're big in Michigan. Seriously. :D

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
06-26-2015, 08:28 AM
What makes you think a German discounter is any better than Walmart? No such thing as a free bratwurst.

I refuse to use any of 'em.

The only time you get to understand the quality of a supermarket is when you act as the supplier.

Aldi and Lidl are at least as good as the common run of UK based supermarkets.

Hugh Conway
06-26-2015, 08:47 AM
What makes you think a German discounter is any better than Walmart? No such thing as a free bratwurst.

I refuse to use any of 'em.

Trader joes is owned by Aldi; biggest U.S. Competitor to whole foods. Stores branded Aldi here are nothing like whole foods; cheap basics ime.

like so many things whole foods achieved market mindshare lockin with a lucrative customer base. At least in Seattle and the Bay Area whole foods moved far more margin its than the local cooops