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Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 12:15 PM
I'm in the process of purchasing a 20" bandsaw from a gentleman in the midwest. The bandsaw was manufactured by a company called The Silver Manufacturing Company, probably between 1913 and 1920. It's missing the table, and I am interested in having a replacement cast. Also, there are no blade or wheel guards, and I wouldn't mind having some made. I briefly considered doing it myself, but casting iron appears to be a mighty warm process, and I'm not interested. Any advice? Thanks.

Garrett

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 12:15 PM
I'm in the process of purchasing a 20" bandsaw from a gentleman in the midwest. The bandsaw was manufactured by a company called The Silver Manufacturing Company, probably between 1913 and 1920. It's missing the table, and I am interested in having a replacement cast. Also, there are no blade or wheel guards, and I wouldn't mind having some made. I briefly considered doing it myself, but casting iron appears to be a mighty warm process, and I'm not interested. Any advice? Thanks.

Garrett

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 12:15 PM
I'm in the process of purchasing a 20" bandsaw from a gentleman in the midwest. The bandsaw was manufactured by a company called The Silver Manufacturing Company, probably between 1913 and 1920. It's missing the table, and I am interested in having a replacement cast. Also, there are no blade or wheel guards, and I wouldn't mind having some made. I briefly considered doing it myself, but casting iron appears to be a mighty warm process, and I'm not interested. Any advice? Thanks.

Garrett

gary porter
02-06-2004, 02:13 PM
Garrett, does your bandsaw look something like this one? I'm restoring this one which is in pretty good condition and I do have the table if you need maeasurements or perhaps I could make a pattern.
There is no gaurd an anything. I am missing the lower guide so will have to make one. Perhaps if you have one you could generate a photo or drawing of it.
Gary
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pbf8ed197518c6b04a913be4dc6bbc6e6/f9b2fbd2.jpg

[ 02-06-2004, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: gary porter ]

gary porter
02-06-2004, 02:13 PM
Garrett, does your bandsaw look something like this one? I'm restoring this one which is in pretty good condition and I do have the table if you need maeasurements or perhaps I could make a pattern.
There is no gaurd an anything. I am missing the lower guide so will have to make one. Perhaps if you have one you could generate a photo or drawing of it.
Gary
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pbf8ed197518c6b04a913be4dc6bbc6e6/f9b2fbd2.jpg

[ 02-06-2004, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: gary porter ]

gary porter
02-06-2004, 02:13 PM
Garrett, does your bandsaw look something like this one? I'm restoring this one which is in pretty good condition and I do have the table if you need maeasurements or perhaps I could make a pattern.
There is no gaurd an anything. I am missing the lower guide so will have to make one. Perhaps if you have one you could generate a photo or drawing of it.
Gary
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pbf8ed197518c6b04a913be4dc6bbc6e6/f9b2fbd2.jpg

[ 02-06-2004, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: gary porter ]

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 03:34 PM
Gary,

It doesn't look just like that (I emailed you a pic to your profile email address). But I will happily assist in any way with your lower guide, once I take delivery of the saw. Here are the pics from the seller:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/peeeaa8dbf9c1e1a69708e5dbac708bdf/f9b2dc8a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p889ee98efe866a856170fac3b0b9edb6/f9b2dc77.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p1befd5a994dbcc40aaecd5540ee978cf/f9b2dc69.jpg

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 03:34 PM
Gary,

It doesn't look just like that (I emailed you a pic to your profile email address). But I will happily assist in any way with your lower guide, once I take delivery of the saw. Here are the pics from the seller:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/peeeaa8dbf9c1e1a69708e5dbac708bdf/f9b2dc8a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p889ee98efe866a856170fac3b0b9edb6/f9b2dc77.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p1befd5a994dbcc40aaecd5540ee978cf/f9b2dc69.jpg

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 03:34 PM
Gary,

It doesn't look just like that (I emailed you a pic to your profile email address). But I will happily assist in any way with your lower guide, once I take delivery of the saw. Here are the pics from the seller:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/peeeaa8dbf9c1e1a69708e5dbac708bdf/f9b2dc8a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p889ee98efe866a856170fac3b0b9edb6/f9b2dc77.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p1befd5a994dbcc40aaecd5540ee978cf/f9b2dc69.jpg

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Here's a link to the photo album. (http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4287772181)

You can open much higher resolution photos here.

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Here's a link to the photo album. (http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4287772181)

You can open much higher resolution photos here.

Garrett Lowell
02-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Here's a link to the photo album. (http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4287772181)

You can open much higher resolution photos here.

RGM
02-06-2004, 11:44 PM
I was going to suggest that you check out the Old Wood Working Machinery website but I soon realized that is where you apparently bought it. Yes/no? You can always build a suitable table out of wood, fake wood or composite stuff and live with it for a while. The guides and trunions are the real trick. I didn't access your imagestation site so I wasn't able to eyeball those pics. Good luck.

RGM
02-06-2004, 11:44 PM
I was going to suggest that you check out the Old Wood Working Machinery website but I soon realized that is where you apparently bought it. Yes/no? You can always build a suitable table out of wood, fake wood or composite stuff and live with it for a while. The guides and trunions are the real trick. I didn't access your imagestation site so I wasn't able to eyeball those pics. Good luck.

RGM
02-06-2004, 11:44 PM
I was going to suggest that you check out the Old Wood Working Machinery website but I soon realized that is where you apparently bought it. Yes/no? You can always build a suitable table out of wood, fake wood or composite stuff and live with it for a while. The guides and trunions are the real trick. I didn't access your imagestation site so I wasn't able to eyeball those pics. Good luck.

Ken Hutchins
02-07-2004, 11:18 AM
I would make a table out of wood, then after modifications etc. to get exactly what you like make a pattern for a casting. Note you will need to allow for machining the top of the casting. You also should have some pads or ribs on the bottom to make it easier to machine the top. I would also find a machine shop with a grinder or mill large enough to grind it before making the pattern as it would be very aggrevating to have a casting just a bit too big and having a problem getting it machined.

Ken Hutchins
02-07-2004, 11:18 AM
I would make a table out of wood, then after modifications etc. to get exactly what you like make a pattern for a casting. Note you will need to allow for machining the top of the casting. You also should have some pads or ribs on the bottom to make it easier to machine the top. I would also find a machine shop with a grinder or mill large enough to grind it before making the pattern as it would be very aggrevating to have a casting just a bit too big and having a problem getting it machined.

Ken Hutchins
02-07-2004, 11:18 AM
I would make a table out of wood, then after modifications etc. to get exactly what you like make a pattern for a casting. Note you will need to allow for machining the top of the casting. You also should have some pads or ribs on the bottom to make it easier to machine the top. I would also find a machine shop with a grinder or mill large enough to grind it before making the pattern as it would be very aggrevating to have a casting just a bit too big and having a problem getting it machined.

NormMessinger
02-07-2004, 04:13 PM
There is an outfit in Omaha that does all sorts of steel castings from telephone pole hardware to heavy duty truck differential cases. For what it might be worth: If I can act as a go between or other wise assist let me know.

NormMessinger
02-07-2004, 04:13 PM
There is an outfit in Omaha that does all sorts of steel castings from telephone pole hardware to heavy duty truck differential cases. For what it might be worth: If I can act as a go between or other wise assist let me know.

NormMessinger
02-07-2004, 04:13 PM
There is an outfit in Omaha that does all sorts of steel castings from telephone pole hardware to heavy duty truck differential cases. For what it might be worth: If I can act as a go between or other wise assist let me know.

Paul Pless
02-07-2004, 05:37 PM
Instead of casting a new table, why not have one fabricated out of mild steel plate. Seems like it would be a whole lot cheaper.

Paul

Paul Pless
02-07-2004, 05:37 PM
Instead of casting a new table, why not have one fabricated out of mild steel plate. Seems like it would be a whole lot cheaper.

Paul

Paul Pless
02-07-2004, 05:37 PM
Instead of casting a new table, why not have one fabricated out of mild steel plate. Seems like it would be a whole lot cheaper.

Paul

Stiletto
02-07-2004, 08:26 PM
I think there could be problems keeping the surface true with mild steel. Welding fittings to it would probably warp it somewhat.

Stiletto
02-07-2004, 08:26 PM
I think there could be problems keeping the surface true with mild steel. Welding fittings to it would probably warp it somewhat.

Stiletto
02-07-2004, 08:26 PM
I think there could be problems keeping the surface true with mild steel. Welding fittings to it would probably warp it somewhat.

Paul Pless
02-07-2004, 08:27 PM
A cast surface would almost certainly have to be trued up after casting.

Paul Pless
02-07-2004, 08:27 PM
A cast surface would almost certainly have to be trued up after casting.

Paul Pless
02-07-2004, 08:27 PM
A cast surface would almost certainly have to be trued up after casting.

Ken Hutchins
02-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Cast iron is less expensive than mild steel, with the casting you need to make a pattern which could be made of styrofoam, with steel you have to weld and stress relieve anneal after the welding, either method will require machining afterwards to get it flat, easier to maching cast iron than steel.

Ken Hutchins
02-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Cast iron is less expensive than mild steel, with the casting you need to make a pattern which could be made of styrofoam, with steel you have to weld and stress relieve anneal after the welding, either method will require machining afterwards to get it flat, easier to maching cast iron than steel.

Ken Hutchins
02-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Cast iron is less expensive than mild steel, with the casting you need to make a pattern which could be made of styrofoam, with steel you have to weld and stress relieve anneal after the welding, either method will require machining afterwards to get it flat, easier to maching cast iron than steel.

Garrett Lowell
02-07-2004, 09:06 PM
Well, after some insight from a forumite via private email, and more research on the bandsaw, I have decided not to make the purchase. It seems that these models of bandsaw were meant only to be used for curve and veneer cutting: light duty work. Also, these saws were originally sold with no table; the purchaser would have to provide his own table and there's no provision for tilting the table. I'm in the market for something heavy duty and old (or new), but this machine doesn't fit my wants. Thanks for all of the information, and thanks Norm for offering your go-between services: much appreciated. I did get the ad for this machine off of OWWM.com, and the gentleman is only asking 200.00, ahem.

Garrett Lowell
02-07-2004, 09:06 PM
Well, after some insight from a forumite via private email, and more research on the bandsaw, I have decided not to make the purchase. It seems that these models of bandsaw were meant only to be used for curve and veneer cutting: light duty work. Also, these saws were originally sold with no table; the purchaser would have to provide his own table and there's no provision for tilting the table. I'm in the market for something heavy duty and old (or new), but this machine doesn't fit my wants. Thanks for all of the information, and thanks Norm for offering your go-between services: much appreciated. I did get the ad for this machine off of OWWM.com, and the gentleman is only asking 200.00, ahem.

Garrett Lowell
02-07-2004, 09:06 PM
Well, after some insight from a forumite via private email, and more research on the bandsaw, I have decided not to make the purchase. It seems that these models of bandsaw were meant only to be used for curve and veneer cutting: light duty work. Also, these saws were originally sold with no table; the purchaser would have to provide his own table and there's no provision for tilting the table. I'm in the market for something heavy duty and old (or new), but this machine doesn't fit my wants. Thanks for all of the information, and thanks Norm for offering your go-between services: much appreciated. I did get the ad for this machine off of OWWM.com, and the gentleman is only asking 200.00, ahem.

NormMessinger
02-07-2004, 10:06 PM
Problem solved. The Forum comes through again! ;)

NormMessinger
02-07-2004, 10:06 PM
Problem solved. The Forum comes through again! ;)

NormMessinger
02-07-2004, 10:06 PM
Problem solved. The Forum comes through again! ;)

Gary E
02-07-2004, 10:27 PM
A top made of either welded up plate or cast iron can be finished on a Blanchard Grinder, call machine shops in your area to find one.

edit... 42" diameter Blanchard's are very common, you find them everywhere.

G

[ 02-07-2004, 10:45 PM: Message edited by: Gary E ]

Gary E
02-07-2004, 10:27 PM
A top made of either welded up plate or cast iron can be finished on a Blanchard Grinder, call machine shops in your area to find one.

edit... 42" diameter Blanchard's are very common, you find them everywhere.

G

[ 02-07-2004, 10:45 PM: Message edited by: Gary E ]

Gary E
02-07-2004, 10:27 PM
A top made of either welded up plate or cast iron can be finished on a Blanchard Grinder, call machine shops in your area to find one.

edit... 42" diameter Blanchard's are very common, you find them everywhere.

G

[ 02-07-2004, 10:45 PM: Message edited by: Gary E ]