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David G
06-09-2015, 02:09 PM
Probably most of us do... so here ya go --

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/09/hate-abortion-and-teen-pregnancy-drop-abstinence-only-like-hawaii-did-and-rates-plummet/


As we’ve all learned, having abstinence-only sex education curriculum isn’t all that effective. In fact, researchers at the University of Georgia revealed (http://news.uga.edu/releases/article/abstinence-only-education-does-not-lead-to-abstinent-behavior/) that states that adhere to abstinence-only curriculum have much higher teen pregnancy rates, saying (http://news.uga.edu/releases/article/abstinence-only-education-does-not-lead-to-abstinent-behavior/):


“Our analysis adds to the overwhelming evidence indicating that abstinence-only education does not reduce teen pregnancy rates.”


It seems states like Hawaii took this sort of data and solid evidence (http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureID=1041) to heart when they dropped (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Feb/12/ln/hawaii902120355.html) their abstinence-only sex education back in 2009.

Since then, Hawaii has seen an overwhelming drop in the number of abortions performed and teen pregnancies reported.According to AP (http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/598869/Abortion-drop-in-Hawaii-coincides-with-changes-to-sex-education.html):


“The number of terminated pregnancies fell nearly 30 percent in Hawaii from 2010 to 2014, representing the greatest abortion decline in the nation. That decline to 2,147 abortions in 2014 happened as the state’s historically high teen pregnancy rate – Hawaii was 10th in the nation for teen pregnancies in 2013 – has been falling.”


And they have implementing proper sex education to thank for this falling rate.

According (http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/598869/Abortion-drop-in-Hawaii-coincides-with-changes-to-sex-education.html) to Judith Clark, executive director of the Hawaii Youth Services Network:


“There was, starting in 2010, a lot of new teen pregnancy education going on in both school and non-school settings using evidence-based curricula. I would certainly hope those efforts reduced the incidents of abortions by reducing the rate of pregnancies.”



Another reason for the decline has been increased access to contraceptives, including emergency contraceptives. Which, beginning (http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/598869/Abortion-drop-in-Hawaii-coincides-with-changes-to-sex-education.html)in 2013, even became available (http://ec.princeton.edu/questions/state-pharmacy-access-list.html) to those as young as 14, without the need for permission from a parent.

Let’s face it — abstinence-only sex education curriculum is useless. No, really, it is. All it does is serve as a comfort for parents who refuse to believe that their child is having sex. Let’s remember Tori Spelling’s character Donna Martin from Beverly Hills 90210 when she said:


“It’s like if you have a swimming pool in your backyard, you can tell your children not to go in it, you can even build a fence around it, but if you know that they’re going to find a way in to that water, don’t you think you ought to teach those kids how to swim?”



And as it turns out, in Hawaii, teaching children a proper sex education curriculum not only prevents (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2011/04/11/education-stds-message-matters/) sexually transmitted infections, but it also prevents pregnancy, and in turn, abortion. So if you hate abortion, you should be the first in line to advocate for proper sex education.

John of Phoenix
06-09-2015, 02:22 PM
Anyone have information on any studies examining why reds are so weird about sex?

S.V. Airlie
06-09-2015, 02:22 PM
If someone one does is apparently prohibited, kids are more likely to defy it: teen drinking, drugs, sex.

John Smith
06-09-2015, 05:15 PM
Anyone have information on any studies examining why reds are so weird about sex?

Don't need a study. Sex is 'dirty' is a pretty standard religious belief. Sex outside of marriage is a sin. They want to force women, or girls, to have the baby as punishment for sinful behavior.

I think it is that simple.

Michael D. Storey
06-09-2015, 06:29 PM
Anyone have information on any studies examining why reds are so weird about sex?

If you ever had sex with one of them, you would know.

purri
06-09-2015, 07:12 PM
Classic. Gets a bilge best quote from me.

Waddie
06-09-2015, 10:18 PM
I don't see why it has to be either/or.... abstinence is the only sure fire way to avoid pregnancy but birth control also works pretty well. So teach both.

regards,
Waddie

bobbys
06-09-2015, 11:26 PM
Anyone have information on any studies examining why reds are so weird about sex?
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Liberals seem to have a thread every day here about sex.

Glen Longino
06-09-2015, 11:33 PM
Anyone have information on any studies examining why reds are so weird about sex?

Studies? We don't need no stinking studies!
Just read their posts!
Oops, there's one now!

David G
06-09-2015, 11:35 PM
I don't see why it has to be either/or.... abstinence is the only sure fire way to avoid pregnancy but birth control also works pretty well. So teach both.

regards,
Waddie

Lemme know when you have any success convincing the 'abstinence-only' contingent of that wisdom...

Glen Longino
06-10-2015, 12:01 AM
Lemme know when you have any success convincing the 'abstinence-only' contingent of that wisdom...

:):)

Paul G.
06-10-2015, 12:08 AM
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Liberals seem to have a thread every day here about sex.

Usually about some right winger who was protesting a bit too loudly, just before the wheels fell off (or got sprung doing the beat of the local toilets)

Paul G.
06-10-2015, 12:11 AM
I don't see why it has to be either/or.... abstinence is the only sure fire way to avoid pregnancy but birth control also works pretty well. So teach both.

regards,
Waddie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY

Glen Longino
06-10-2015, 12:18 AM
Are there any Moderate Republicans extant?
I had assumed they were a silent and invisible majority waiting to take back their party from the wall-eyed, howling-at-the-moon faction, but lately I have seen No Evidence of sane republicans.
Tell me I'm wrong and show me evidence that I'm wrong.

David G
06-10-2015, 09:50 PM
I'm not complaining, mind you. Doing it the 50's 'Murican way (keep 'em ignorant, and let 'em figger it out themselves) led to a lot of lovely experimentation. But it would probably have been even more lovely for all concerned it we'd know more about what the heck we were doing from the get go. I'm just lucky that my first was an 'older woman' - a high school senior - with a carefree attitude toward love - who took an inexplicable liking to a younger kid. And... I'm mighty lucky I didn't get some young lovely pregnant - which would have dramatically altered both of our lives. And... I'm doubly lucky that I never picked up any diseases...

A bit of education is better than a bunch of inept fumbling, and unintended consequences... any old time!

Vince Brennan
06-10-2015, 10:21 PM
No. I don't "want to see fewer", what I want to see is a whole lot less (approaching >0) guilt laid on those who may feel the procedure necessary.
That's it.

David G
06-10-2015, 10:44 PM
I DO want to see fewer. Because many pregnancies are unwanted, and could have been avoided thru the use of birth control. Or abstinence. Or alternate sexual activities. And abortion is a rather extreme method of birth control. I fully support a womans... or a couples... right to make all such decisions. I just want them to be fully informed decisions. And I believe if they are... fewer abortions will naturally result.

Michael D. Storey
06-14-2015, 08:55 AM
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Liberals seem to have a thread every day here about sex.

That would be because they have sex every day.

John Smith
06-14-2015, 10:04 AM
I DO want to see fewer. Because many pregnancies are unwanted, and could have been avoided thru the use of birth control. Or abstinence. Or alternate sexual activities. And abortion is a rather extreme method of birth control. I fully support a womans... or a couples... right to make all such decisions. I just want them to be fully informed decisions. And I believe if they are... fewer abortions will naturally result.

One thing we need to accept is that birth control methods have a failure rate. I've posted before about a radio host who wanted ONLY to discuss pregnancies of women who used birth control, but it failed. She could not get her audience to comply. Caller after callers took the position that if they didn't want to get pregnant, they should have used birth control. Halfway through the show she gave up, put music on, and went home.

I still maintain those who don't want women to have access to contraception or abortion simply want them to have the child as punishment for behaving badly. That's the only way this makes sense. Most unwanted children cost the taxpayers a lot more money than the abortion would cost. That's in spite of efforts to NOT help support the child


This is the only way their position makes sense.

CK 17
06-15-2015, 11:44 AM
Anyone have information on any studies examining why reds are so weird about sex?

the Reds think they have to answer to a higher authority. Therefor, we all do. Their doing gods work. They'll be rewarded in the after life.

http://s20.postimg.org/eu39pa2m5/image.jpg

Gerarddm
06-15-2015, 12:12 PM
Sex ed early and often, plus free contraception should do it.

John Smith
06-15-2015, 01:19 PM
I DO want to see fewer. Because many pregnancies are unwanted, and could have been avoided thru the use of birth control. Or abstinence. Or alternate sexual activities. And abortion is a rather extreme method of birth control. I fully support a womans... or a couples... right to make all such decisions. I just want them to be fully informed decisions. And I believe if they are... fewer abortions will naturally result.

One thing we need to accept is that birth control methods have a failure rate. I've posted before about a radio host who wanted ONLY to discuss pregnancies of women who used birth control, but it failed. She could not get her audience to comply. Caller after callers took the position that if they didn't want to get pregnant, they should have used birth control. Halfway through the show she gave up, put music on, and went home.

I still maintain those who don't want women to have access to contraception or abortion simply want them to have the child as punishment for behaving badly. That's the only way this makes sense. Most unwanted children cost the taxpayers a lot more money than the abortion would.