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John Smith
06-07-2015, 05:47 PM
Wonder what percentage of this stuff is being caught on video. 10%? less?

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/06/07/3667000/texas-cop-suspended-hes-caught-video-grabbing-black-girl-hair-sitting/

This is about a Texas cop getting suspended after his actions were caught on video.

Keith Wilson
06-07-2015, 05:56 PM
Any smartphone can make a video recording now, and your average citizen has one in his pocket. Maybe we should start a campaign - "If you see something, make a video". If cops know the chances are pretty good they might be recorded, the ones tempted to misbehave might think twice. Not a cure, but it would help.

Paul Pless
06-07-2015, 05:58 PM
Pity the guy taking the video wasn't adding commentary. . .

seanz
06-07-2015, 06:22 PM
Any smartphone can make a video recording now, and your average citizen has one in his pocket. Maybe we should start a campaign - "If you see something, make a video". If cops know the chances are pretty good they might be recorded, the ones tempted to misbehave might think twice. Not a cure, but it would help.


It will work right up to the point where recording police is made an offence.

skuthorp
06-07-2015, 06:27 PM
" According to teens interviewed by BuzzFeed News, “the police were called after a fight broke out between adults and youths at the pool after the adults made racist comments telling the black children to leave the area and return to ‘Section 8 [public] housing.’” (http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/texas-police-officer-suspended-after-pulling-weapon-on-teens#.vooNBqp7kw) One white teen added that “when she and her friends objected to the racist comments about public housing an adult woman then became violent.”"
Yes……………..

Paul Pless
06-07-2015, 06:34 PM
It will work right up to the point where recording police is made an offence.eh? that you phillip??

seanz
06-07-2015, 06:44 PM
I see that the cop-lovers have shown up now. You won't admit that you never didn't call me a cop-hater.

Nicholas Carey
06-07-2015, 09:58 PM
It will work right up to the point where recording police is made an offence.


Fortunately, photographing the police (and pretty much anything else in plain view from a location where you are lawfully entitled to be) is protected under the 1st amendment. That includes video and audio recordings. Of buildings, of airports, of the police.

On private property, it's a different matter — the property owner can set limitations.

But recording agents of the State, in public and carrying out their official duties on the public roads is protected. It's a concept called "public oversight".

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights-photographers


http://youtu.be/v2eXtCuVyFM

Because recording audio is covered under wiretap laws, video recordings that include audio are dependent on whether or not there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy". Which is to say, openly recording a police officer's interactions with a citizen on the public street is almost certainly legal (statutory prohibitions notwithstanding); the surreptitious recording of a couple's intimate tête-à-tête in a booth in a quiet restaurant...not so much.

And you can ask for a police officer's ID. This


Is a good piece with cites from various jurisdiction's policy manuals

http://boingboing.net/2015/02/25/think-you-have-the-right-to-de.html
For instance,


BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT RULES AND PROCEDURES, RULE 102 SECT. 20, 2010

General Law, Chapter 41, Section 98D, requires every officer to carry his identification card with photograph and exhibit this card upon a lawful request for purposes of identification. Any officer, acting in his official capacity, shall give his name, rank and badge number, in a civil manner to any person who may inquire unless he is engaged in an undercover police operation and his physical safety or the police operation would be jeopardized by his making such identification.

Except that interfering with a police officer is generally an.offense under the law. And asking the cop for his ID while he's in the process of arresting somebody is liable to land you in the back of the paddy wagon, too.

Michael D. Storey
06-09-2015, 08:01 AM
Any smartphone can make a video recording now, and your average citizen has one in his pocket. Maybe we should start a campaign - "If you see something, make a video". If cops know the chances are pretty good they might be recorded, the ones tempted to misbehave might think twice. Not a cure, but it would help.

If I were a copper, I think that I would consider a recording as welcome evidence of my behavior