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Hwyl
06-04-2015, 06:53 AM
I was surprised to see yesterday, that some objected to boat pictures in the bilge.

Here is a fun poll.

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 06:54 AM
I was surprised to see yesterday, that some objected to boat pictures in the bilge. me too :D

haters gonna hate. . .

Peerie Maa
06-04-2015, 07:02 AM
Deb's Good News thread struggles to stay afloat. We need something to counterbalance the gloom doom and crap posted down here.

bamamick
06-04-2015, 07:24 AM
On the one hand I can understand the point when there are several other forums for those posts. On the other hand, it seems like some people only come to the WBF to argue politics or such things and really have no interest in any boat no matter what it's made from, and I have always felt that if we all shared that one common thread at least we could at least discuss things together without ugliness or rancor.

I actually look forward to the pron threads.

Mickey Lake

Figment
06-04-2015, 07:25 AM
I don't see a poll option for "The Bilge is dead to me without them"

Duncan Gibbs
06-04-2015, 07:29 AM
Right! That does it!!

Jim Mahan
06-04-2015, 07:37 AM
Mama, don't take my pron away, hey.

This is a site about boats, wooden boats. There should be pronists abounding apropogating and expositing on pron and all things pronish, on every deck. Images of boats is what we want. There aren't enough boats and not nearly enough photos of boats. There's other good stuff down here that don't belong on them other decks, ya see, mam.

You know how when you go a-googling for an answer, and after skipping through the first few pages of search results you notice the associations between the thing you googled and the kinds of sites that come up are increasingly tenuous? You have a question, so first you google, "do proper gronicles only come in bronze, and do they always have to be in handed pairs?" and by page two the results of the search are now somehow about motorcycles or sewing machines, with ads for sites called 'everytingsupercheapmaileddirect—gronicles dot com. Then you see a listing that seems to be what you're looking for, nicely relevant and, look, it's a wooden boat forum thread from the bilge! Gives me a little shiver.

The Bigfella
06-04-2015, 07:41 AM
Folks without vision resort to control

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 07:42 AM
Should give up the bilge title and give it a better name, "More boats, just for bilge rats who never go above decks!"

George Jung
06-04-2015, 07:45 AM
Still bucking for 'O & O', eh, Jamie?

Phillip Allen
06-04-2015, 07:45 AM
it' just a passive aggressive way to take up space... It doesn't hurt anything

Jim Mahan
06-04-2015, 07:46 AM
On the one hand I can understand the point when there are several other forums for those posts.

You expect me to wade through building and repair threads looking for pron?


On the other hand, it seems like some people only come to the WBF to argue politics or such things and really have no interest in any boat no matter what it's made from, and I have always felt that if we all shared that one common thread at least we could discuss things together without ugliness or rancor.

Instead of getting the pron out of the bilge, what about requiring bilge threads to include some pron in the OP of every thread?


I actually look forward to the pron threads.

Clicking through each morning, watching for another great shot of a boat suitable for a desktop backgound.

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 07:47 AM
Should give up the bilge title and give it a better name, "More boats, just for bilge rats who never go above decks!" It is mostly just for their post count Jamie, kinda of trolling if ya know what I mean

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 07:48 AM
post count is overrated

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 07:49 AM
post count is overrated Uhhh?

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 07:50 AM
No, but, I understand those that post! If they posted above decks, no one would ooh and aaah them, and that would upset the posters no end. Either that or, their too lazy and it's too hard for them to climb a ladder. Take your pick on the reason.

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 07:51 AM
No, but, I understand those that post! If they posted above decks, no one would ooh and aaah them, and that would the posters no end. Either that or, their too lazy and it's too hard for them to climb a ladder. Take your pick on the reason. Zactly, attention seekers at best.:):)

TomF
06-04-2015, 07:53 AM
it' just a passive aggressive way to take up space... It doesn't hurt anythingPosting pictures of wooden boats in an easy-to-find way on the most heavily trafficked part of the WoodenBoat Forum is passive aggressive?

Hell, Phillip. Harmless or not, don't let yourself get taken in and see something beautiful against your better judgment.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 07:54 AM
Obviously, many here are too "weighted down" to climb out of the bilge!:),

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 07:55 AM
Zactly, attention seekers at best.:):)

nah, just trying to share the love. . .


http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/killick/Boats/AirlieLaunch1.jpg

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/killick/Boats/AirlieLaunch4.jpg

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/killick/Boats/AirlieLaunch2.jpg%7Eoriginal

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 07:57 AM
When your trolls don't fly, post boat pics. I got it dude.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 08:00 AM
Zactly, attention seekers at best.:):)Okay, there might be a reason and this might not be far off. I'll ask a question, why do those posting boat porn only post in the bilge when there are more than a few categories to post boat related topics in? I'd like an answer but, I think it may have been already.:) Okay, I boating up wind I realize, and nothing will change. I don't see a sense, really, in voting on any topic in the bilge.

Hwyl
06-04-2015, 08:01 AM
Here is a fun poll.

Remember this part folks.

Katherine
06-04-2015, 08:04 AM
I like to see pictures of the pretty boats.Y:o

Bust seriously guys, it's getting a bit out of hand and I know some of you have better things to be doing.:D

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 08:05 AM
Okay, there might be a reason and this might not be far off. I'll ask a question, why do those posting boat porn only post in the bilge when there are more than a few categories to post boat related topics in? I'd like an answer but, I think it may have been already.:) Okay, I boating up wind I realize, and nothing will change. I don't see a sense, really, in voting on any topic in the bilge.

Jamie the main reason I don't post porn upstairs is that it would flood miscellaneous boat related and sink the other threads that are there. I feel that would be a disservice to the forum. You may also take note that of bilge rats I participate above decks more than most as it is. . .

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 08:06 AM
Notice Paul, these pics were not originally posted in the bilge.:)

varadero
06-04-2015, 08:09 AM
Because, every now and then you see an image that grabs you by the b&lls, and you know that if you share it here, someone will reallly love it. It is only in the depths of an old boat, you will find where the heart beats. It is the home of the "Golden Rivet"

CWSmith
06-04-2015, 09:32 AM
I want more boat porn, but knowing something specific about the boats when available would be nice.

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 09:45 AM
Because, every now and then you see an image that grabs you by the b&lls, and you know that if you share it here, someone will reallly love it. It is only in the depths of an old boat, you will find where the heart beats. It is the home of the "Golden Rivet" And you get more response than you would upstairs, I get that.

Nicholas Scheuer
06-04-2015, 10:50 AM
I believe Pless started the continual boat porn in the bilge just to be cute. It ain't cute anymore.

How'bout another gun thread?

Canoeyawl
06-04-2015, 11:03 AM
If they would let politics, diets, births and deaths and drinking in Building and Repair we wouldn't need pron in the bilge.

It reminds me of the old general store after hours, pre telephone, pre-radio, and the town too small for a tavern. A place for locals to gather, have a drink and tell lies and play pinocle, like a foc'sle perhaps, darkened, an oil lamp overhead and an warm stove. In the small town in Maine that I remember, probably more than half earned their living from the sea, and when they were not at sea, they were farming. So crowd rotated, the stories and jokes were eclectic, and could have been from anywhere in the world. It is a sailor's tradition.
(Of course I'm much to young to remember this, but my grandmother used to remark that she could tell who the patrons were on any particular evening by the tone of the laughter, or argument. It wasn't much of a walk for her to determine why her husband was not home.
The Bilge, pron and all is a good thing, a community with much in common. If only we could remember to behave as if the other patrons were sitting next to us.

David G
06-04-2015, 11:05 AM
I have an opinion about boat content in the Bilge. I think it shouldn't be. \

It should be above-decks. That's not because I'm disinterested in boats. I'm a boat owner (current count 6). I'm a professional woodworker specializing in repairing boats, building boats, boat kits, and building boaty bits. I review the above-deck threads every day, and chime in if I think some inquiry needs a response.

My reason is simply based in my own methodical, organized nature. A place for everything, and everything in its place. Strictly a personal preference/quirk.

But it's a bootless discussion anyway. I pushed that notion to Paul - he chose not to heed my request. I pushed the notion to Scot - he likes the Pron in the Bilge. I'm guessing the poll will show that most people like it. So be it. No one has to open any thread in the Bilge. If you don't like pron threads... leave 'em alone. If you don't like discussions about religion, politics, economics, cute kittens, or navel-gazing... skip 'em. And skip the whining about any of 'em, eh?

If we're gonna have boat-related content in the Bilge though... I would much prefer it WAS content. A bit about the boat. A personal opinion or observation. Something. A glossy image is fine, in a superficial way, but too shallow for hold much interest for me.


ETA - Just noting that Paul is kind enough to clearly label such threads, so it's quite easy to avoid them if you're so inclined. I appreciate that. And I appreciate clearly labeled, non-cryptic, thread titles in general. Another personal preference...

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 11:11 AM
If we're gonna have boat-related content in the Bilge though... I would much prefer it WAS content. A bit about the boat. A personal opinion or observation. Something. A glossy image is fine, in a superficial way, but too shallow for hold much interest for me.

I could go with that!

Canoeyawl
06-04-2015, 11:16 AM
If we're gonna have boat-related content in the Bilge though... I would much prefer it WAS content. A bit about the boat. A personal opinion or observation. Something. A glossy image is fine, in a superficial way, but too shallow for hold much interest for me.

I could go with that!

An image is worth a thousand words

Lew Barrett
06-04-2015, 11:17 AM
Because, every now and then you see an image that grabs you by the b&lls.......

Maybe grabs by the the heart? But I get the point. We're men and easily confused so there's precious little difference to us where we get grabbed.:)

ccmanuals
06-04-2015, 11:18 AM
You forgot a category,

"It's that darn Obama's fault"

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 11:41 AM
If they would let politics, diets, births and deaths and drinking in Building and Repair we wouldn't need pron in the bilge.

It reminds me of the old general store after hours, pre telephone, pre-radio, and the town too small for a tavern. A place for locals to gather, have a drink and tell lies and play pinocle, like a foc'sle perhaps, darkened, an oil lamp overhead and an warm stove. In the small town in Maine that I remember, probably more than half earned their living from the sea, and when they were not at sea, they were farming. So crowd rotated, the stories and jokes were eclectic, and could have been from anywhere in the world. It is a sailor's tradition.
(Of course I'm much to young to remember this, but my grandmother used to remark that she could tell who the patrons were on any particular evening by the tone of the laughter, or argument. It wasn't much of a walk for her to determine why her husband was not home.
The Bilge, pron and all is a good thing, a community with much in common. If only we could remember to behave as if the other patrons were sitting next to us.That's what the BYOB thread is for.:) Instead of plaing music!:)

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 12:24 PM
That's what the BYOB thread is for.:) Instead of plaing music!:) No one wats to talk there, they know know it will only lead to more probs, jus sayin.

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 12:25 PM
No one wats to talk there, they know know it will only lead to more probs, jus sayin.
but is byob where i should be posting boat porn?

Katherine
06-04-2015, 12:26 PM
Unless you own or run the forum, you really have no say so in what gets posted where. Suck it up and get out in the real world more, sheesh!

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 12:28 PM
but is byob where i should be posting boat porn? Do what ya want mister, Ya post for your wife all the time so what is the difference????

Katherine
06-04-2015, 12:30 PM
Ya post for your wife all the time so what is the difference????No he doesn't

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 12:30 PM
Ya post for your wife all the time so what is the difference???????

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 12:40 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/Bobby450/310121481_zpsf7b1fee3.gif (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Bobby450/media/310121481_zpsf7b1fee3.gif.html)

David G
06-04-2015, 12:51 PM
but is byob where i should be posting boat porn?

I wouldn't say so. Too little traffic... and it could easily blow up that quiet little backwater and change its character in unfortunate ways. Though... from my perspective... it IS a place where things are a run a bit looser. So posting inappropriate content (boat porn) might be just a shade more appropriate there.

But, as I said, it's a bootless discussion about a settled topic. And look at the poll. The vast majority like boat porn in the Bilge. The people have spoken! And Scot had already spoken, and shown once again that he has a firm grasp on the pulse of the... HEY... psssssst.... Scot!!! Wake up, man. Look alert - I'm trying to say something complimentary here! <G>

So - if you don't like it - don't look at it. Just like real porn. Or politics. Or fotos of yet another example of Antipodean wildlife that IS out to kill you!!! <G>

David G
06-04-2015, 12:52 PM
Unless you own or run the forum, you really have no say so in what gets posted where. Suck it up and get out in the real world more, sheesh!

I agree. We can offer suggestions... but that's about it.

And Paul... I'm not sure - as it's mighty subtle - but I think this might be a hint directed at a husband <G>

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 12:56 PM
Unless you own or run the forum, you really have no say so in what gets posted where. Suck it up and get out in the real world more, sheesh!And just because some here think they DO own the forum, people have to put up with it. Got it Kat, loud and clear!

Figment
06-04-2015, 12:58 PM
Gareth, you sneaky devil! This thread is just a nice handy way to update one's ignore-list, isn't it?

Well played.

Garret
06-04-2015, 12:58 PM
I'm amazed that there's any debate on this. People are objecting to beautiful pics of boats on a wooden boat forum???????? Why on earth? I immediately click on a Pron thread - no matter who the author, as I know chances are I'll see a great shot. Many of them I share with others.

Count me as one who voted for the first option - though I'd say they beautify my life - not just the bilge.

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 01:00 PM
??? Why would I believe you. Let's see? ( I will send you some bow wood... I will bring you some bow wood, oh I am coming to your house so I will bring it then. Sorry I am busy cant make it.) This is after inviting other people to be here. Sorry dude but that just don't fly.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 01:03 PM
Funny I'm NOT at all, just the location and the number Garret. People are already posting about the garbage porn, they don't like it BECAUSE it ain't PRETTY! If, the example I've given, ate three gallons of ice cream a day, would you reach a point of saying to yourself,"enough is enough!" I hope so!

David G
06-04-2015, 01:16 PM
Alright... who's got the dead horse/riding crop gif? Yanno... just in case we ever need it...

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 01:19 PM
At least I'm honest and am willing to say what I think even when, the sky falls on me for doing so.

Paul Pless
06-04-2015, 01:19 PM
Why would I believe you. Let's see? ( I will send you some bow wood... I will bring you some bow wood, oh I am coming to your house so I will bring it then. Sorry I am busy cant make it.) This is after inviting other people to be here. Sorry dude but that just don't fly.My apologies, it was more than two thousand miles of driving in three days, sorry my schedule didn't hold up as I drove through hundreds of miles of construction in Arkansas to get to Oklahoma, I'll see if I can't get some lumber in the mail to you in the next week or so to make up for the inconvenience. . .

bobbys
06-04-2015, 01:41 PM
Why would I believe you. Let's see? ( I will send you some bow wood... I will bring you some bow wood, oh I am coming to your house so I will bring it then. Sorry I am busy cant make it.) This is after inviting other people to be here. Sorry dude but that just don't fly.
.

Hey, I get notes to stay away!.

I would stop and see you though.

bobbys
06-04-2015, 01:43 PM
I voted for the dislike the posters.

I do like them it's just I feel it needed a vote.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 01:44 PM
I voted for the dislike the posters.

I do like them it's just I feel it needed a vote.Post your voter ID please!

Bobby of Tulsa
06-04-2015, 01:46 PM
My apologies, it was more than two thousand miles of driving in three days, sorry my schedule didn't hold up as I drove through hundreds of miles of construction in Arkansas to get to Oklahoma, I'll see if I can't get some lumber in the mail to you in the next week or so to make up for the inconvenience. . . No need now my friend, I am way past doing that.:(

Peerie Maa
06-04-2015, 01:47 PM
Funny I'm NOT at all, just the location and the number Garret. People are already posting about the garbage porn, they don't like it BECAUSE it ain't PRETTY! If, the example I've given, ate three gallons of ice cream a day, would you reach a point of saying to yourself,"enough is enough!" I hope so!

I think that this criticism of the Pron threads caused a posting frenzy. Your threads probably threw gas on the fire.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 01:52 PM
I think that this criticism of the Pron threads caused a posting frenzy. Your threads probably threw gas on the fire.No, more like the 1st A bomb

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01456/a-bomb_1456835i.jpg

bobbys
06-04-2015, 01:55 PM
I think that this criticism of the Pron threads caused a posting frenzy. Your threads probably threw gas on the fire.
.

Don't encourage him please!

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 02:00 PM
It takes something else to go against the grain. Few appear to have what it takes. I could've gone out to the bees and had the same reception. Too cold this AM, more fun to rile up the goils here!:)

TomF
06-04-2015, 02:02 PM
.... People are already posting about the garbage porn, they don't like it BECAUSE it ain't PRETTY! ...Alright, that was my word.

Jamie, you weren't posting garbage porn to bring us to a new awareness of the impact of humans on the natural world. You weren't posting pics of birds or seals or turtles enmeshed in plastic as a way of prompting a sense of responsibility. C'mon.

You posted garbage porn 'cause you were pissed that there were about 20 different one-post threads with boat pictures pushing everything else down the Bilge's page. Felt it was an abuse, and you wanted us to get that point by confronting us with what you felt was a similar, but more pointed abuse. And you made that point; we've been talking about it.

If you want to start a thread about the impact of humans on sea life, whether because of the garbage we spew out that traps them or anything else, go to it. It's a good, meaningful topic, and one we haven't talked about here for a very long time. But it isn't why you launched your prior garbage threads today.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 02:03 PM
Really I'm not pissed! You are pissed because I did, c'mon! And, boy did I get a reaction! Glad I had my epipen!

Peerie Maa
06-04-2015, 02:06 PM
Really I'm not pissed! You are pissed because I did, c'mon!

Enough now. The point is made and duly noted. Now time to let it lie.

You aint going to change any behaviours, we are all too old for that to happen. So just ignore what does little harm, gives some pleasure, and is not going away.

RonW
06-04-2015, 02:08 PM
Alright, that was my word.

Jamie, you weren't posting garbage porn to bring us to a new awareness of the impact of humans on the natural world. You weren't posting pics of birds or seals or turtles enmeshed in plastic as a way of prompting a sense of responsibility. C'mon.

You posted garbage porn 'cause you were pissed that there were about 20 different one-post threads with boat pictures pushing everything else down the Bilge's page. Felt it was an abuse, and you wanted us to get that point by confronting us with what you felt was a similar, but more pointed abuse. And you made that point; we've been talking about it.

If you want to start a thread about the impact of humans on sea life, whether because of the garbage we spew out that traps them or anything else, go to it. It's a good, meaningful topic, and one we haven't talked about here for a very long time. But it isn't why you launched your prior garbage threads today.


I gotta agree with you Tom, it is just poor low quality rude behavior, I had to vote with bobbys due to this person's RUDE behavior to fellow forum members.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 02:09 PM
Are you talking to me or the other miscrants?

TomF
06-04-2015, 02:11 PM
Really I'm not pissed! You are pissed because I did, c'mon!I thought one "garbage porn" thread made your point nicely. I thought a few was overkill, but opinions vary ... that was your point about the boat pron, after all.

As I said in my first response on this, I don't much like concerted "bilge flush" antics whoever does them, whatever the topic, and however lovely the pictures. IMO boat pics are different - both because this IS a boat-oriented forum, and because we've got years of precedent. Sure, collecting them into a single picture thread might be "better," but after a very short while it also makes that thread a bear to load.

It's not like, mostly, we've so much originality and gold in the threads that get pushed down that something irrevocable is lost, eh? Whatever ... I'll try to shut up now. ;)

John Smith
06-04-2015, 02:12 PM
Frankly, the closest thing I have to an opinion here is that it might be nice to have a category just for lovely photos of lovely boats.

S.V. Airlie
06-04-2015, 02:13 PM
I have no problem with THAT either! But, I go wonder what having a "Misc. Boat" category!

AnalogKid
06-04-2015, 05:57 PM
You can't just post pictures on the upper decks for no other reason than the beauty of the boat. You've got be be posting a boat you built/repaired, a design you need advice on, a boat owned by some geezer in some place you know, a boat that's already appeared in the magazine (or should appear in the next edition - hey, maybe that's the place for them), a boat you used a new tool on, and misc. boat related is for things about boats, not boats.

No, the bilge is the place to post a picture just for the joy of it, be it of a wooden boat, a non-wooden boat, a plane, a motorbike, a car or a truck.

Wish I got a picture of the decommissioned fire appliance towing an offshore speedboat that I saw this morning, but there was a policeman standing on the corner and you it's illegal to use a cell phone while behind the wheel.

Duncan Gibbs
06-04-2015, 06:08 PM
I had to vote with bobbys due to this person's RUDE behavior to fellow forum members.
You've got something to say Pal? Some complaint you want to air?

Hwyl
06-04-2015, 07:04 PM
This has been up for 12 hours and it's job is done. Post away.